Pretty much. Everything gets bogged down the longer it runs, but then this is J J Abrams so yeah...RandV80 said:You know it almost makes sense what he's saying, but then you just know that the end result is going to be something ridiculous.
Pretty much. Everything gets bogged down the longer it runs, but then this is J J Abrams so yeah...RandV80 said:You know it almost makes sense what he's saying, but then you just know that the end result is going to be something ridiculous.
Eh, the EU's been a lost cause for a long time now. Yes, this probably means good stories like the Thrawn saga will be tossed out, but there's a ton of crap that will be gone as well (Dark Empire, the Jedi Academy books with that stupidly OP Sun Crusher, Darksaber, that Yuzzhan Vong crap, etc).Owyn_Merrilin said:So he wants to respect what came before without revering it, and he's talking about pretending nothing since the original friggin' Star Wars came out exists? I've got a bad feeling about this. And about what it means for the EU.
Sorry midiclorians are a fucking stupid idea. A mystical force that is mostly unexplained is way better.Therumancer said:they do not want to be handed something different in the name of a mystery
Yes the death of a tyrannical empire and their death weapon is totally a 'downer.'Therumancer said:The biggest problem with Star Wars is simply that finishing up the story told in the first six movies results in a real downer of an ending.
The prequils were blanketed with great actors and actresses. It's hard to act when the dialogue is written by an idiot and all the scenes are you just standing there infront of a green screen while the camera cuts back and forth as you read your lines to an imaginary anthropomorphic dinosaur-rabbit.Therumancer said:Now, it's a testament to the horrible.. ..acting ability of some of the people doing the prequels that this is not more obvious.
So your interpretation of the star wars prequils is that all the space bacteria got together and planned to murder Anakin's mother because something something darkside?Therumancer said:but the universe was literally stepping all over his will and making it so he would do specific things.
Big fucking citation needed.Therumancer said:While the game wasn't especially good due to problems with rushed development, "Knights Of The Old Republic 2" was apparently based on Lucas' writings and he allegedly ghost wrote parts of it for all intents and purposes.
No it isn't. The most it even talks about free will is an offhanded comment by Kreia in the first 10 minutes of the game. If the basic theme of starwars was that you don't have any free will then it probably wouldn't be a pick your own dialogue, decide what happens at the end of missions kind of game.Therumancer said:In KoToR2 the basic theme is free will
This makes zero sense, and is entirely unsupported by any cannon source whatsoever.Therumancer said:The over all resolution of the story arc would be Luke's fall to the dark side
The prophecy concerned Anakin and only Anakin. The prophecy is over.Therumancer said:Sure, JJ is right, when it's all spelled out there in black and white it's a bit less mysterious, however that's fundamentally what Star Wars is, a sort of dark fairy tale with space ships and blasters, which is all about a prophecy and it's fulfillment.
JJ didn't write lost. He wrote and directed the pilot. And he co-wrote the first episode of season 3. That's two episodes total. Other than that he had next to nothing to do with lost except having his name stamped on it as the creator. So congratulations on knee-jerk blaming someone for something he had next to nothing to do with?Therumancer said:In JJ's case it's his job to write now that the mystery is out of the bag without being able to use the unknown as a crutch like he did with "Lost".
QFT.KoudelkaMorgan said:I am excited to see some NEW Star Wars. I wasn't a big fan of the prequels, I actually really liked the clone wars cartoon (not the CG one) that aired on cartoon network before ep3 came out. You know, the series that they kind of swept under the rug and no one ever talks about.
The thing that keeps me from truly loving the clone wars, even though it is WAY better written with far more interesting characters than the prequels, is that I already know what happens. I mean, why should I get at all invested in anything going on when I already know that Palpatine is playing both sides in order to rise to Galactic Emperer? I already know what becomes of virtually every character, and can infer that Rex and Cody either die or kill Jedi in the end. Asoka dies, Obi-Wan dies, everything is already set in stone.
I know of, but haven never actually read (or even seen in a book store) the bajillion Star Wars books out there. I'm hoping that good, bad, or whatever the new movies turn out to be that they are at least ORIGINAL. Not "oh that is a nod to this, or that guy looks like this other guy in the books" etc.
I want it to be NEW.
JJ Abrams is a horrible writer and that is the explanation provided in the movies. You simply don't like it and neither do I, but it's the reality. The whole crux of the chosen one is in prophecy, which deals with destiny, which deals with the concept of free will. It's a stupid concept to think that the force is bacterial concentrations... but that's what's presented in the movies. Anakin was conceived by them. Space bacteria = the force, and the force created the chosen one. Free will is very much in question here.Mycroft Holmes said:So your interpretation of the star wars prequils is that all the space bacteria got together and planned to murder Anakin's mother because something something darkside?Therumancer said:but the universe was literally stepping all over his will and making it so he would do specific things.
And it is also your opinion that JJ Abrahms is a bad story teller? Right... ok...
Therumancer said:In KoToR2 the basic theme is free will
Kreia is essentially Nietzsche, though not based entirely on him, much of her views parallel with his own. The force is stated to be a mystical energy surrounding and controlling all living things. She states that she hates the force. She poses as your teacher throughout the game and is a companion, then betrays you. You end up hating her because she manipulated you all that time, yet she herself believes she is being manipulated by the force along with everything else. It is a central theme in the game.No it isn't. The most it even talks about free will is an offhanded comment by Kreia in the first 10 minutes of the game. If the basic theme of starwars was that you don't have any free will then it probably wouldn't be a pick your own dialogue, decide what happens at the end of missions kind of game.