Jack White and Jimmy Page Don't Like Guitar Hero

DonalM

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No, Stairway to Heaven, like any LZ songs, is not found in videogames, movies, or television shows because whoever owns the rights to LZ's catalog charges an arm and a leg for permission to use them.
 

Abedeus

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Credge said:
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Xbox in Poland costs 1400 PLN. Guitar Hero + guitar costs another 600 PLN. That's 2000 PLN together. A guitar costs half of that.

Then... Lessons. Don't buy them. I learn by myself, it's not hard. Find some online books about it, if you want. Otherwise, just get some chords and practice till you have ulcers.

Then, assuming we are still at CASUAL level (because the game is casual as hell), you don't buy anything else, maybe... pins? No idea how they're called in English, but you hit strings with them if you don't want your right hand's hurt after an hour or so. Because we are still talking about casual, non-professional level?


Or, if you just want to randomly colored buttons, buy Audiosurf or get Frets on Fire for free. Oh, that thingie was a fret, I remember now.
 

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Cpt_Oblivious said:
It is a little sad that people are discovering music and these great bands via Guitar Hero. But it's also incredibly fun and not supposed to be some perfect simulation of playing instruments.
Hey at least they're discovering great bands. I find loads of new bands through Rock Band.
 

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I've never heard of either of those musicians ever. But guitar hero and rock band are very outdated now I haven't played rockband in a few months and guitar hero in a few years (2 year) they are really boring now and I can see how gimmicky they can be.

But these games are over right?



oh.....crap
 

Ibanez887

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I want to know how Guitar hero became so popular so quickly
I used to play guitar Hero non-stop, but it got old so I picked a real guitar and taught myself how to play it
 

Jharry5

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I'm pretty sure the majority of people who play those games know that it isn't anything like playing the actual instruments.
I can see where Jimmy Page is coming from, but they're just meant to be for a bit of fun.
 

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yeah i don't see how playing music games stops people from listening to music outside of said games. that's just silly.
 

Chaos Marine

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If the plastic controllers for these music games were actual instruments then I doubt they'd have any problems with them as they'd be teaching people how to actually play instead of pressing four or five colourful keys.
 

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I'm indifferent to every band's statement in the article. I'm not a fan of either one, not even Led Zeppelin... They have two songs I like, and that's it. So they can piss on Guitar Hero as much as they like.

However:
"You think of the drum part that John Bonham did on Led Zeppelin's first track on the first album, 'Good Times Bad Times'," he said. "How many drummers in the world can play that part, let alone on Christmas morning?"
It's kinda the point with the music games. They're dumbed down for a reason, so that people can have fun simulating themselves playing their favourite tracks, no matter how absurdly difficult they are in real life (Freebird, anyone?). It's a game, for Christ's sake.
 

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Guitar Hero got me interested in learning an instrument other than the piano. I picked up a guitar, started translating what I know from the piano, and here I am playing the Canon Rock. I'm entirely self-taught, and I also play expert on Guitar Hero. I'm good at both, and I love both. I don't really see the problem. Like me, it's gotten loads of children to start playing real instruments, and Guitar Center sales can prove it up-the-ass. Oasis and Nickelback are in the Guitar Hero and Rock Band games, so why didn't they say "I don't want to be in the damn game."

Is it just me, or are the artists bashing music games suspiciously like the average troll. They use their ability to get everyone's attention to voice their opinion in the bitchiest way possible.
 

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avykins said:
First of all. Never heard of the white stripes.

DOM!domdom domdom DOM!DOM!
(okay sorry that was terrible, here's what I mean http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j7huh5Egew)

On subject. In theory the concern that kids will are satisfied with playing plastic instruments instead of real ones is sort of valid, we still want new talent to emerge right? But in practice it matters little since the kids that actually have talent and potential to go on and become rockstars probably won't settle (or even touch) Guitar Hero. Guitar Hero was made as a game for the average Joe who has no interest in playing in a real band anyway.

I guess the famous guitarists who make the claims are just a generation behind ^^
 

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NoMoreSanity said:
Why do we care what they think? I've never listened to the Stripes, and Led Zep isn't that good, so why do we care about their incorrect, asinine opinions?
I'm not certain "Whatever NoMoreSanity listens to and happens to like" is a good determinator of what constitutes "correct opinions".

Malygris said:
You remember "fun," right? It's what rock and roll used to be before everyone got so damned sanctimonious about it.
Yes, because people are just SO much more sanctimonious about rock and roll these days, as compared to the 70's and 80's...

hagaya said:
Is it just me, or are the artists bashing music games suspiciously like the average troll. They use their ability to get everyone's attention to voice their opinion in the bitchiest way possible.
Actually, I think the reason they're bashing music games is that playing a real instrument can fulfill ALL the needs/desires/interests that playing Guitar Hero can (yes, even the need to relax for a short while, and the need for casual, instantly available fun), but also provide SO much more fulfillment in other areas. And since fellas like Page know their way around their instruments, they also know how fulfilling it can be (yes, even in exactly the same way as Guitar Hero), and therefore react with a certain sadness when they see the vast amounts of digital guitar heroes spending countless of hours on music games, completely unaware of that everything Guitar Hero gives them could be gained from picking up a real guitar instead.

As a professional vocalist and semi-professional (although also surprisingly untalented) guitarist with many years of experience, I know that feeling well. Everything Guitar Hero and Rockband has provided my gaming friends with, could have been gained from picking up the guitar instead.

And here is the big revelation: they could have attained the same results with about the same level of investment, both economically and in terms of effort. Within the same period of time, with similar amounts of effort and money, they could have had just as fun, but gained SO much more in the process.

Also, seeing how many former guitar gamers now turned regular guitarists regret that they did not go directly for the real guitar (for the same reasons I list above), strengthens my understanding of real rock stars trying to turn gamers attention towards real guitars instead.
 

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Wow, I've seen the light! Thanks Jack and Jimmy! I was gonna play some Rock Band and Guitar Hero today, but instead I think I'll devote the rest of my life to learning how to play guitar... maybe if I'm extremely lucky, I'll be half as talented as you guys in 30 years and won't need to live out my rock star fantasies in a game...

/sarcasm
 

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NoMoreSanity said:
They're bashing a franchise that has done nothing wrong besides provide joy and fun.
Regardless of whether they are right or wrong, they BELIEVE that the franchise HAS indeed done something wrong, besides provide joy and fun. Hence their bashing.

So, while you can possibly accuse them of wrongful bashing, they cannot be said to be bashing without a cause.

Furthermore, if their bashing is what you do not agree with, what weight your personal opinions regarding the music they make have in this context? Would you have listened more, and disregarded your own opinions on what is fun and enjoyable, if yer favourite artist had said the same?
 

Yog Sothoth

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Also, Jack & Jimmy are dinosaurs.... If they don't accept the fact that these games are the future of music distribution, they'll get left in the dust. Don't get me wrong, I love the Stripes and Zeppelin, but they need to get with the times and stop bitching...

Who wants to take odds on how long before we see any of their music in a game...?
 

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Ayjona said:
And here is the big revelation: they could have attained the same results with about the same level of investment, both economically and in terms of effort. Within the same period of time, with similar amounts of effort and money, they could have had just as fun, but gained SO much more in the process.

Also, seeing how many former guitar gamers now turned regular guitarists regret that they did not go directly for the real guitar (for the same reasons I list above), strengthens my understanding of real rock stars trying to turn gamers attention towards real guitars instead.
Not everyone wants to put in the time and effort to be a rock star. Some people just want to sing some karaoke, bang on a plastic drum, and pretend they are Jimi Hendrix with some buddies before going about their day. To your average Joe, pressing some buttons and making Iron Man blast through the TV is a lot more fun than drilling scales, changing broken strings, getting calluses on your fingers, and being depressingly, God-awful terrible at a real guitar.