Wow... you just shot yourself in the foot with that argument XDWhiteTiger225 said:I'd snip this quote but Im on my Wii Browser.slopeslider said:Again dear, this is where a little research goes a long way to ACTUAL facts.WhiteTiger225 said:Im all for showing japan were strong and not risking a land invasion, but bombing CIVILIAN CITIES!? Unprovoked Military Attack= bad.slopeslider said:Though I will agree that no one should take this Ad seriously...WhiteTiger225 said:PeaceFistCreations said:I hate the type of people who get bothered by stupid jokes like this, and try to fucking sue and boycott away things they don't like.
My theory is that these pansy-ass spoiled shits are the ones ruining everything in America, trying to make us look like a bunch of sensitive pussies.
Its an extremely blatant stereotype, a Japanese citizen would have to be a fucking moron for this ad to affect his view of Americans.
By the way, remember when we dropped an A-bomb on a city filled with innocent people? I think whatever committee is trying to stop these ads better start by getting on their knees and cleaning some nobs before their whiny shit is taken seriously.
Also, do you remember how racist we were to them during WW2? It's going to take a surge of horrifying racism towards whites from all over Asia to make up for the way we portrayed them during that period.
Might I point out a few things?
1. THEY STARTED IT. We were sitting in our harbors, minding our own buisness while the REST of the world was having an all out war, but NOOOOOOOOOOO, those Axis siding jerks had to come along and ruin our fun. Yeah, we DID kinda overreact, BUT, we did build them right back after, and even were nice enough to let them keep their country instead of taking it over and turning it into a Wal-Mart or whatever people who own a country do after...
2. The estimated Loss of life was in the multi millions if we tried a regular invasion, in which innocent people would still die by the city full, but with the dropping of two A bombs (Our only 2, even though we told them we had WarehouseS full of them XD) we cut that loss factor by a large percentile, and in turn curved a large loss of human life, into a still large, ubt not AS large loss of life.
3. Did I mention they were siding with the Axis at the time?
4. Did you EVER listen to what they did to POWs? Should read that up sometime, malnourishing prisoners to the point they make starving ethiopians look like the fattest of modern day americans is perfectly okay, but water boarding someone, something colleges do for initiation? YOU MONSTERS!
Unprovoked Civilian attack=TERRORISM. An important military base is OK(They still backstabbed us in Pearl Harbor), but a City full of innocent families is not. We call killing innocent people these days TERRORISM. Had Al Quada attacked a military base and NOT NYC There'd be less outrage and a war on Al Qaeda, not a war on Terrorism.
They could've bombed Japan's bases where combatants understand the risks instead of cutting thousands of innocent Non-threatening lives short. TWICE. I mean what could they have even SAID? 'Yeah we weren't at war with you civilians. We killed your armies because thats how war works, but we killed your families to prove a point. To any of the retired Japanese military vets; You killed us, we killed you. We Are no longer at war and are now Allies. We're cool, right?
To the Dead and slowly dying victims of our bomb; Yeah we didnt feel like fighting your armies so We decided to make an example out of you TWICE as you were going about your peaceful daily lives. Our bad.'
The two cities were NOT just housing civilians, but garrisons AND housing for military personal. It's kinda like if they dropped a bomb on the coastline of Conneticut and on Manhattan Island. Yeah A LOT of civilians would be killed, BUT, they would also have destroyed one of our top submarine manufacturing plants, and an entire army regiment, clearing a now fortifyable position for an invasion... but again, that requires research to discover and people don't like facts it seems XD
Your right, but why use such a huge bomb for that? A nuke is more than overkill for a plant. And no one will be getting close enough to start bombing us, Its likely to be an ICBM. Thats like Ordering a tactical nuke strike onto a bunch of terrorists in a building! 'Sure everyone within a few miles is screwed, but we got the Terrorists! America is safe again!
If they wanted to demonstrate how bad-@$$ we are they could have done so without a massive loss of civie life. People are respectful of our power now, yet we didn't blow up any more cities in demonstration.
The Incideary bombing canpaigns Killed way more than the atomic bomb did anyway. Fire and an almost entirely wooden japan dont mix.
People seem to get it these days anyway, with precision strikes that can target a specific room in a building without Blowing away everyone in a 3-mile radius.
"People are respectful of our power now, yet we didn't blow up any more cities in demonstration.
The Incideary bombing canpaigns Killed way more than the atomic bomb did anyway. Fire and an almost entirely wooden japan dont mix." So.. you say we used to big a bomb, then go on to brag about how you killed more human lives with incindery strikes? You just kinda pointed out that we made the better choice as we took LESS lives and STILL forced a surrender.
Next. If we had a cruise missle to shove up the asses of their leaders at that time, WW2 would have been over much sooner because instead of raiding normandy, we would have just used that future tech to shove a missile up hitlers ass painted in gay rainbow triangles and david stars. But the A BOMB (Not Nuke, but Atomic Bomb, much smaller boom then a nuke, and a lot less fallout radiation) was our biggest insurance to end the war quickly, and with as little losses on ourside, AS WELL as their side while assuring success.
See heres your biggest flaw in your debating. You are thinking with our modern day equipment, not with what we had available during WW2, hell, even a bit after WW1 we still were using heavy cavalry (Armored men with lances and guns on horses)[/quote]
Im tired and my eyes hurt cause I woke up too early today. Ok, now to what you said:
I was using ICBMs as an example of the current time how we wouldn't be Bombed but Missle striked. Like people could REALLY send bombers over the atlantic ocean without us knowing these days. Back in WW2, Germany knew they couldn't 'bomb' U.S so they made the v2 missle, which eventually would've been able to reach us if they had more time.
I wasn't bragging, I was showing I understood the A-bomb wasn't the most deadly thing we did, but I still think they could've used it on a base far from innocents to force a surrender. We were flying over Nagasaki and Hiroshima, we could've got our targets using conventional bombs like normal. Dropped the A-bomb over a fleet of ships I can see but using that over a city is like police taking out a hostage taker not with a conventional sniper rifle but a 120mm Cannon. It's overkill for that particular scene, and innocent people will get hurt. I'm Obviously not a debater, but I think I can get points across pretty decent. Can you snip quote this? It's getting pretty long.
...Why are we having this nice little talk again? I don't even know! It's not even about the AD anymore! I must lighten the mood with a meme...
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