I may have slipped up there, you can't propose an amendment. The two houses of Congress have to with a two thirds vote. You are right about common sense, when passing laws it _is_ a trivial thing, you have to put in some more work than that.deathjavu said:
Jim & Yahtzee's Rhymedown Spectacular: Games, Games, Everywhere.
- Thread starter Jim And Yahtzee
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I'm glad someone called out indie games on some of their bullshit. Most of the time you can't do that without a bunch of indie game fanboys telling you to go back to your Call of Duty. Yeah, because yet another retro style game is so original. Not that they can't be fun (Call of Duty can even be fun under the right circumstanes), but to claim originality? Shut the fuck up with that nonsense.
What the flying fuck are you talking about?! Lowering the speed limit harms no one.
Yes, lowering the speed limit does indeed harm everyone. Life is the movie Speed and if we slow down, the bombs in our cars will explode and everyone will be harmed.mike1921 said:
What the flying fuck are you talking about?! Lowering the speed limit harms no one.
"Panic! Chaos! What is this!?
To help cut down on spam, we're doing spot check captchas on the forums. These help prevent bots from being able to post. Please complete the captcha to the left to post. Sorry for the inconvenience!"
Oh really? To cut down on spam? Then why the fuck is the "captcha" not a captcha at all but instead an ad asking me about what influences me about buying salsa? How does this stop a bot? Just admit that you greedy bastards want to inconvenience members for the sake of making more money (either through the ads we have to respond to before we can post or by getting people to sign up for Pub Club to make the ads go away) rather than lying about cutting down on spam.
Seriously, at this point I think this forum must be run by EA considering how casually user friendliness is discarded in the name of making a quick buck.
To help cut down on spam, we're doing spot check captchas on the forums. These help prevent bots from being able to post. Please complete the captcha to the left to post. Sorry for the inconvenience!"
Oh really? To cut down on spam? Then why the fuck is the "captcha" not a captcha at all but instead an ad asking me about what influences me about buying salsa? How does this stop a bot? Just admit that you greedy bastards want to inconvenience members for the sake of making more money (either through the ads we have to respond to before we can post or by getting people to sign up for Pub Club to make the ads go away) rather than lying about cutting down on spam.
Seriously, at this point I think this forum must be run by EA considering how casually user friendliness is discarded in the name of making a quick buck.
I enjoyed Jim's quite a bit more this time. Unfortunately Yahtzee this time just came off childish and ignorant. He probably should stick to that of which he understands; games, not social debate.
themilo504 said:
That sounds like a Final Fantasy X villain plot, where they're all 'if everybody's dead, all the bad things we do to each other and subsequent suffering will end' while completely overlooking the bad things and suffering they themselves are bringing about to just realize their endgame.
While this does sound like it would do well for a Final Fantasy villain plot, I think Marvel has gone over this idea enough times with their Sentinels.Miss G. said:
Also, Adam Jensen saying his favorite political issue is about guns and not human augmentation, ha.
OT: Fantastic work with the poems by the way, guys.
The second you call a semi-automatic weapon an assault rifle, you label yourself as completely and utterly ignorant of the topic at hand, capable only of repeating what the anti gun lobbyists said, as opposed to having any idea what is actually going on. Assault weapons were banned a long time ago in the US along with all automatic weapons. There are still pre ban ones around, but as far as I'm aware the only time they've been used for a mass shooting was Ft Hood, and its a bit hard to ban military personnel from having them.Deshin said:
Banning ergonomic innovations and bayonets, which is most of what the anti-gun lobby has been labelling assault rifles, simply won't effect the outcome of these events. I will grant you a debate on expanded magazines, but be aware of what you're talking about.
(This also applies to anybody else talking assault weapons in this thread, you were just the first I saw).
Why the hell would I know anything about your country's gun laws? What makes you think I even dislike guns? All I said regarding guns was that a lot more people have died due to nutjobs getting guns than they have due to nutjobs getting video games. And yeah I got the terminology wrong, my bad. Semi-auto, assault rifle, whatever, it's still something big and shiny some punk decided would make him look like Rambo as he mowed down a school of todlers. Firing rate be damned when your target can't even tie his own shoes yet. (oh God I'm going to hell for that one aren't I?)Requia said:
I'm just confused where your animosity is coming from... I wrote right there on the end, "the blame for gun violence falls squarely on all the loons out there who thought they could beat Cho's high score", what part of that screams I'm blaming guns at all?
Deshin said:
This has never happened, ever. This i snot so much animosity as being sick to death of people trying to ban irrelevant bullshit that was labelled 'assault rifle' by people who have no idea what they're talking about in order to feel better when white kids get shot instead of black kids (in which case it will be a small easily concealable handgun).
Yes, it is MORE likely that the ease of gun obtainment was a contributing factor than the ease of obtaining a video game about guns. I think neither are to blame but if you're going to start going down the blame-game ladder then the buck stops right there with the object designed to fire projectiles at a high velocity for the intent of severely damaging or disabling its intended target. This whole thing isn't even about banning guns. Also, white kids and black kids? What is this I don't even.Requia said:
Irrelevant to my point. The anti-gun lobby isn't using Newtown etc to make it harder to get guns in general. They are trying to make it harder to get semi automatic rifles that have specific ergonomic features, bayonets, or expanded magazines (that last of which I admit is relevant to the question of mass shootings).Deshin said:
Check out Harper High. 39 of its students were shot in 2012, at just one high school, rather than as a mass shooting its because of a breakdown in local power structures (neither the cops, nor any specific gang, control the neighborhood). All of these were with handguns. But when a bunch of middle class white kids get shot, representing a tiny minority of total kids shot in 2012, suddenly we have to do something to stop that from happening. And the focus, rather than on illegal guns, or handguns, is on legally purchaced rifles, because that's what was used to shoot middle class white kids.
Both poems were great this week so great work the both of you!
Yahtzee's topic was very interesting and well thought out, also rhymed pretty well.
Yahtzee's topic was very interesting and well thought out, also rhymed pretty well.
I was raised with guns in the house. I knew where they were, and I knew what they could do. When you see a .357 magnum atomize most of a cinder block around age five, you get the picture: these things are not toys. I got my first gun when I turned ten years old, a double barrel .410. After a couple months, I switched to the 12 gauge because the .410 shells were ridiculously overpriced in that market. Learning to shoot was an important rite of passage in my family, and I've passed it on, despite having no kids of my own yet: I taught a friend's son how to shoot.
Sure, I get angry sometimes. There are days I wouldn't mind liquidating entire departments when I'm in a bad mood, but I don't do it. I was raised properly. No amount of violent video games, television, cinema, music or literature is going to flip a switch and make me think it is a good idea to go on a lead and cordite rampage. When I hear about a teenager going on a shooting spree, my first thought isn't "oh no, they gonna wanna take my-ah guns" or "wow, somebody should really take all the guns" it is "Bad parenting."
Actually, if I were to go on a rampage, I'd probably use a Prius or something, just to give Prius owners the same kind of black eye that gun owners have been getting in the media.
Where do you draw the line? We've hit a point where people kill themselves over internet bullying.
Treat the cause, not the symptom.
Sure, I get angry sometimes. There are days I wouldn't mind liquidating entire departments when I'm in a bad mood, but I don't do it. I was raised properly. No amount of violent video games, television, cinema, music or literature is going to flip a switch and make me think it is a good idea to go on a lead and cordite rampage. When I hear about a teenager going on a shooting spree, my first thought isn't "oh no, they gonna wanna take my-ah guns" or "wow, somebody should really take all the guns" it is "Bad parenting."
Actually, if I were to go on a rampage, I'd probably use a Prius or something, just to give Prius owners the same kind of black eye that gun owners have been getting in the media.
Where do you draw the line? We've hit a point where people kill themselves over internet bullying.
Treat the cause, not the symptom.
I took the bait, and watched this Vid. I regret it. :/
Kinda irritated at Yahtzee's poem. I hope it wasn't intended as a "ban guns" thing. I'm not a fan of that notion. I'm leaving it at that.
Jim definitely made a point.
Kinda irritated at Yahtzee's poem. I hope it wasn't intended as a "ban guns" thing. I'm not a fan of that notion. I'm leaving it at that.
Jim definitely made a point.