Jimquisition: Defending Call of Duty

Hugga_Bear

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Seriously?
CoD4 was indeed very good, the rest have been trite rehashes of the game. It's nothing to do with it being big, it's size should make it better, a bigger base means more money means a better game next time. Right? No.

As for good narratives? Seriously? They're ridiculous. CoD4 did it really, really well. The fact that you died? The way it was done (last minute rescue by the ooh rahing marines and it fails? Perfectly executed) was fantastic. MW2 decided to do it again. All the time. NONSTOP. And with terrible execution. Black Ops wasn't as bad but still pretty horrible. WaW was just bleh.

It's nothing to do with it being art, it's the fact that after CoD4 nothing has really happened, new shiny guns have appeared but they're not exactly revolutionary or even well balanced (oh Ak74u), ok so in CoD4 everyone used the same perks, I'm glad they've at least tried to alter that and I admit I like the 'pro' system as a base (I do think it's actual implementation has fallen short of it's promise though) but seriously, all we get are COD points so instead of unlocking things with challenges we buy them with in game money earned...through...challenges. Customisable killstreaks which devolve into the same ones and oh my god how is blackbird only an 8? Has there ever been a more powerf-oh wait nuke.

Beyond that what do we have? Noobtubes are now utterly terrible because everyone hated them (me included) quick scoping has gone, as has effective no scoping because everyone hated it. Semtex is rubbish because everyone used it and so on.

I really hate the way CoD has turned, they need the sharpness from CoD4 back, taking only a few shots to down each person, they need to make options more balanced even if it means they're fewer.
Some things are great, I LOVE theatre mode, I think it's a lovely addition, I really do. I like that killstreaks no longer count towards killstreaks (because seriously...). I even like customisable reticules, even though most of them make it harder to hit stuff.

But please, for the love of all that is good, don't pretend that it's critics are just kids whinging about the lack of nukes and useful chopper gunners, there are huge flaws in the CoD series and with all the money that's been thrown at it it's pretty disgusting that they still exist.
 

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I don't think anyone with an opinion who matters have criticized the first Modern Warfare's single player campaign? After all, it's pretty awesome. It's after that the shit started rolling downhill. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. it was not, but we still went from what was genuinely a well-paced narrative with an attentive focus on ambience and atmosphere to Michael Bay levels of convoluted stupidity, gun-worship and general over-the-top awfulness.

Personally, I could not care less about the multiplayer. If someone wants to waste their days shooting other people over and over when there are still books to read, films to see, and games to play - in other words, stories to experience - I don't see how it matter whether they play CoD, Halo, Team Fortress 2 or whatever it is people are playing these days.
 

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I paused the video and stopped listening at 3:23
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danyy2009

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Its alot better, just plz stop with the "me standing and so awesome than you" thing,
seriously, youre not funny. Other than that its getting better.
 

DazBurger

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Thank you Jim! Somebody had to say it!
Liking cheddar is not a bad thing!

... Also, call of duty.
 

Who Dares Wins

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This episode appealed to me more than any before. There was some overacting (the artist) and your valid arguments could be taken as invalid because you represent your opposition in an unfair manner, but other than that, not many complaints. Get rid of that, stop the self-praise (I know it's a joke but some people don't get jokes and they might see you as a self entitled prick) calm down and speak with a calm tone (most of the episode was like this and it was good) and you have a nice and a reasonable show on The Escapist.


Oh and great intro song.
 

Phlakes

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"Call of Duty: Modern Warfare is a game which defined what a modern multiplayer shooter could be".

Wrong, that would be Team Fortress 2.
Well shit, I guess there can never be different styles of games. That's too bad.

BlacklightVirus said:
Boring environments.
Alright, I'll give you that. Although that mountain from MW2 was pretty amazing.

BlacklightVirus said:
No innovative mechanics.
That's because nothing has been "innovative" for years, because it's all been done already. CoD 4 just made most of them better. I mean even look at your example, TF2. Not only is it basically the same as TF Classic, but class based shooters have been around for years. So it didn't "innovate" either.

BlacklightVirus said:
No teamwork
This isn't the game's fault at all.

Almost everything Jim said is true, except BlOps being well paced. It was just "HOLY SHIT BIG EXPLOSION" "HOLY SHIT BIG HELICOPTER" "HOLY SHIT BIG MINIGUN" "HOLY SHIT BIG FLAMETHROWER", constantly.
 

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I hope many people who are saying "He tries too hard" do realize his way of speaking, heaving breathing, and sporadic panting are because he is overweight, right?

When I was kid, and chubby, I had a hard time breathing easily during long conversations and such, let alone wear any Tuxedo or even try to act infront of an audience, so please people, use your head for a moment or two.
 

Puzzlenaut

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Zhukov said:
*sigh*

PS. Black Ops has a well paced narrative? That's the funniest thing I've heard in quite some time. CoD:MW? Sure. MW2? Eh... pushing it. Blops? Ha!
although flawed, CoD WaW had a much better paced campaign, and never got really REALLY silly.


Anyways, although I agree there is way too much hate on CoD just for being popular, it is hardly a perfect game either -- CoD MW was one of the greatest games ever made in my opinion, and since then the series has only been going downhill, and, as the kind fellow quoted above points out, Black Ops took the levels of action to straight up comical levels, and the same goes for the multiplayer -- just because it has more gimmicks and toys, doesn't mean the multiplayer has been at all improved since Call of Duty 4.
 

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Frozen Donkey Wheel2 said:
subtlefuge said:
People went back and captured Osama? That's news.
....Not really, it happened several weeks ago. Also, "killed", not "captured".
But Jim said captured like 5 times. I trust him implicitly.

Can't keep it up. You really thought I was being serious. Really?
 

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AceAngel said:
I hope many people who are saying "He tries too hard" do realize his way of speaking, heaving breathing, and sporadic panting are because he is overweight, right?

When I was kid, and chubby, I had a hard time breathing easily during long conversations and such, let alone wear any Tuxedo or even try to act infront of an audience, so please people, use your head for a moment or two.
...What the fuck?
 

EmpressZombiKitty

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I really enjoyed this episode, Jim! At first I was skeptical of your show, but after these last 2 episodes I've become a fan. Well done!
 

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Jim, seriosly? Did i just hear the word's "depth" and "Call of duty" in one sentence? And it's easy to pop in a scene from the most overtalked game in the history of man to counter it (tho i like, and respect the series, was a fanboy myself once).

Modern Warfare 4 was a revolution. Ive played it no more then 24 hours but ive got the point of it. It was good.

I totaly respect the fact that u like the game and enjoy it. It's a thing of taste, I myself am playing Battlefields, and I'm waiting for BF3 to come out. But seriously? Depth? Modern Warfare 2 had depth? Just becouse some brit was shot in the face in slo-motion dosent make it depth, im sorry. Not only that u dont even say what the depth is.

Black Ops was terrible, no denying it. Im talking from a PC point of view when i couldnt play Blops for two weeks becouse it was sluttering like hell. The single player? Let my qoute myself from my Steam profile:

"Feels more like an expansion pack to Call of Duty 4. Single Player is a standard, linear, borring shoot-out, multiplayer is the same thing over, over, and over again. Not worth its price, buy it when its 50% cheaper or at some deal. They are way better FPS's on the market, stick to them. This? Waste of money."

Not much to add. All ive heard was:

"Cod isnt played only by kiddies, i play it aswell! And the game is FOKIN deep!"

But its cool, enjoy what u like. Hope to god nobody comes over and says that Minecraft has an awesome plot. And depth.
 

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The only problem I have with CoD is the way girls try to get boys attention by saying "ooh look at me I'm a girl and I play CoD aren't I a desirrable mate?", thinking that CoD is the only game in existence. Not the fault of the game, stupid people are gonna be stupid.

I also thought Blops had a mediocre campaign, not on the level of Cod 4 or even MW2.
 

Who Dares Wins

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AceAngel said:
I hope many people who are saying "He tries too hard" do realize his way of speaking, heaving breathing, and sporadic panting are because he is overweight, right?

When I was kid, and chubby, I had a hard time breathing easily during long conversations and such, let alone wear any Tuxedo or even try to act infront of an audience, so please people, use your head for a moment or two.
I think sitting down in a comfortable chair with comfortable clothes would help with that. The parts where he is standing up in a suit would exhaust any normal person.
 

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Really enjoyed this episode. The series is really finding it's footing now. I like Jim's attitude in this piece. I'm mostly the same- popular or not I like the games I like and I don't give a shit about elitism in either camp. Sure I like to play a bit of Limbo or Galactic Civ but sometimes I just want to have fun and I'll pull out GTA or FIFA.

As far as the CoD series goes, I'm not much of an online player so I never got more than halfway to prestige in any title. That said, aside from 3 and MW2, I've always had a very entertaining and engaging experience in the single player campaigns.
 

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Jim is a good counterpoint to this website, I mean with the cult like following of Extra Credits here I think people just dont like being told anything different. Personally I find Jim and movie bob better then extra Credits because at least you know their saying an oppinion, while extra credits is very preachy and acts as if everything they say is fact, also they tend to over romantacize games as something greater then they are.
 

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Kukulski said:
For more discussion on Jim Sterling I invite you all to this thread:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.286381-Outrageous-The-Witcher-2-review-by-Jim-Sterling
Wow... people are actually capable of doing things like this? I mean, I can troll too, but everything has limits. This makes him look like a "CoD kiddie" (please do note I am not directly calling Jim Sterling that, only that people may see him like that)