Well, Jim Sterling is right. People still 'care' about Fake Nerd Girls and this forum proves it.
You really don't seem to have much of an idea about human sexuality, whether male or female. Females (whether considered attractive or not) are generally constantly subjected to unwanted male attention. It isn't usually males who are perved upon and judged by their appearance.Astro said:Yes, except female sexual persuasion isn't "hey I'm interested in you so I'll express my interest" in this context, it's "hey I'm going to sit here presenting myself in a certain way to exploit this demographic specifically to reap the attention I'm liable to get."
Fucking awful argument, Aardvaarkman. Your first paragraph is completely irrelevant, it doesn't address anything I contested, even in passing, and the second paragraph misses the point completely. You are being exploited by someone who's falsely assuming a role in order to provoke a certain type of response from you for their personal gain, the only reasonable argument you could possibly mount against this is questioning whether the effect that it has is a negative one. I never implied you're forced to involve yourself with 'fake nerd girls' (though it's not out of the question because they're intentionally trying to present themselves in a way which does forcefully involve you), I asserted that they're a nuisance and worthy of contempt, whether they directly have an affect on me as a physical being is irrelevant.Aardvaarkman said:You really don't seem to have much of an idea about human sexuality, whether male or female. Females (whether considered attractive or not) are generally constantly subjected to unwanted male attention. It isn't usually males who are perved upon and judged by their appearance.Astro said:Yes, except female sexual persuasion isn't "hey I'm interested in you so I'll express my interest" in this context, it's "hey I'm going to sit here presenting myself in a certain way to exploit this demographic specifically to reap the attention I'm liable to get."
The idea that male gamers are somehow being manipulated or are victims of female predators is one of the most absurd things I've heard in quite a while. And the idea that they do it by just "sitting here" looking a certain way is just ridiculous. If they're just sitting there, then why do you have to involve yourself with them in any way. Where is the exploitation here?
Bein a gamer worse than slavery it is!CrunkParty said:Yeah. Nerds are some real persecuted people I can tell you that. The subject of Oscar bait in a good 60-70 years time.
I think this is as much ?emotional manipulation? as laughing at a joke you don?t find funny or wearing your best outfit that gives you blisters, but that?s just me. I guess we just think differently there.JarinArenos said:Kinda missing the point, I think. Emotional manipulation is emotional manipulation.
I don?t think it?s too absurd to believe that the majority of people on the planet would like to get on with the majority of the other people on the planet. When most people go into a new workplace I?m sure it wouldn?t be too ridiculous to suggest that they?d prefer it if the people on the shift were similar enough to them to get on. On the other hand, I do think it is absurd to believe that ?tits = not geek?.Zachary Amaranth said:You know, you just went from snarking at a generalisation about you being a stripper to making a generalisation about trying to fit in.
I'm pretty sure I don't. I also don't try not to fit in, because I'm not into counter-culture any more than culture.
I also don't think it's fun to try and fit in. Ask your average closeted homosexual or transsexual how they feel.
How is it irrelevant? Females are absolutely treated differently to males, and this addresses your narrative of male victimization.Astro said:Fucking awful argument, Aardvaarkman. Your first paragraph is completely irrelevant, it doesn't address anything I contested, even in passing, and the second paragraph misses the point completely.
How are you being exploited by them, unless you choose to be? And what is the supposed benefit to them?Astro said:You are being exploited by someone who's falsely assuming a role in order to provoke a certain type of response from you for their personal gain,
This makes no sense - who are you talking about who used force against you? The discussion has so far been about females who supposedly wear certain clothes, or pretend to be something they're not, in order to deceive. It has not been about females who use violence to force males to do their bidding.Astro said:(though it's not out of the question because they're intentionally trying to present themselves in a way which does forcefully involve you)
Why is that irrelevant? If they pose no threat to you, then what's the problem?Astro said:I asserted that they're a nuisance and worthy of contempt, whether they directly have an affect on me as a physical being is irrelevant.
What the hell? What was she supposedly "asking for"? And who are you talking about?Astro said:No, that doesn't render the girl trying to provoke the attention completely innocent because it's plausibly deniable and not ideal to admit that 'maybe she was asking for it'.
I have no idea, I just wish people would all get along. Games are for entertainment, what does it matter who likes them or pretends to like them, I don't think it really hurts anyone.Vault101 said:17 pages
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what is it about females that makes people go insane?
I think we all know what it is. Some people just never got out of highschool, mentally.Vault101 said:17 pages
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what is it about females that makes people go insane?
I think you may be onto somthing thereBreakfastMan said:I think we all know what it is. Some people just never got out of highschool, mentally.
And persecution complexes! Don't forget all the persecution complexes! Because teh wimens/mainstream wants to take away my fun and vidja games!Vault101 said:I think you may be onto somthing thereBreakfastMan said:I think we all know what it is. Some people just never got out of highschool, mentally.
that and peoples "martyr entitlement" complex
[i/]I suffered for your SINS! thou shalt not play games without aproval![/i]
This site seems to be growing a mentality that women have to work harder for the mere right to exist happily, then turns around and claims gaming does not have a sexism problem.Vault101 said:17 pages
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what is it about females that makes people go insane?