Jimquisition: Monster Boobs And Plastic Children

MB202

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Also, the mention of "culture" just reminds me of how that guy harassed that poor girl playing Street Fighter x Tekken, and justified it by saying it's part of the fighting game culture. As Jim said "BUUUUUUUUULLSHIT!"
 

Savryc

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I wouldn't mind so much but they can't have seen that many tits if that's how they think they move. Those are like two water balloons given sentience and stapled to a dead eyed porcelain doll.
 

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Its Dead or Alive, what were they gonna put in it instead of crazy digitits?
Why is it suddenly not ok after the fifth game?
Why is the world not permitted to have just 1 super sexualized booby game among the thousands of other games?

Seems like the reaction people had over Duke Nukem:Forever all over again, its burlesque people, it is an art form.
 

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I just can't get all that worked up about this. Fake boobs on fake women? From one developer? (Yes, I know there are certainly other devs that have ridiculously voluptuous characters and/or jiggle physics, but TN are the focus of this one, and for this subject, rightly so.) There are things in the medium that I get pissed off about, but a large part of that comes not just from companies behaving badly, but giving other companies the idea that the particular ways in which they're behaving are acceptable (and/or profitable), and soon the whole market is doing them and the customers are left without an alternative. There are things that market dynamics cannot fix, much as free market dogmatists might like to pretend otherwise. But Team Ninja making big boobs doesn't seem like one of them. If people don't like DoA games- if they find that particular element sufficiently off-putting that they reduce the amount of enjoyment they get out of those games, vs. other available alternatives- they'll stop buying and renting them.

I'm also a little confused about what specifically Jim finds so offensive. This is not to say he doesn't have every right to be offended; that's his choice, of course. But I'm genuinely having trouble following if it's "real breasts don't behave like that" or "breasts are being focused on to the exclusion of all other elements that could be found sexy" or "gigantic breasts on teenagers is fetishizing women who are uncomfortably young to be the focus of that kind of attention" or "we're seeing all kinds of jiggle physics thrown at figures who otherwise look like dead-faced waxen dolls" or even "Would you kindly stop presuming that this kind of blatant pandering is what I, as a male gamer, am looking for out of my video games?" I think you could find good arguments for any of those, but the way this Jimquisition seems to kind of wander about in that regard makes it feel like a kind of rounded-off "it's squicky and gross to me, make it go awayyyyy" that's harder to intellectually defend.

Oh, and for the record, the last DoA game I played was DoA 2, so I'd have to admit that part of my "meh" response comes down to not having a whole lot at stake one way or another.
 
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TBH, I don't have an issue with DoA...Because I don't play the games, or really give a damn.

They like big oversized boobs? Sure, have fun. It's not my thing.

What I DO have team ninja for is participating in the atrocity that was Other M. *shakes fist*
 

Eri

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Why do people care if the tits are not realistic? WHY? Magic isn't real either, let's throw that out of games. Werewolves aren't real either, let's get rid of those.
 

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Tenmar said:
I don't even have to listen to your entire episode to realize that Jim is just jumping on the bandwagon where every video game should be based on super realism and if it isn't realistic it shouldn't be made anymore. Not to mention the fact that he doesn't really care about the developers if they actually want to developer the games they want them to be developed. I should also mention that Jim is taking the most shallow point of view here completely negating that the games they have developed as a company have always been from average to good games but instead just focuses on the breasts because it's the hot topic of the month and allows him to be in an ivory tower and throw stones.

Yeah sure you can call the justification bullshit but have you ever thought about the marketing and research departments that are hired by Tecmo to do research on actual audiences to make sure that their game is actually well designed while sporting attractive characters that people are interested in playing?

I should also mention that the DOA girls are always going to be compared to monsters because despite the fact that from game to game the actual breast size due to all the criticisms of the franchise from people who DO NOT BUY THE GAME have actually been successful at reducing the breast size of all the DOA women.

If anything the tragedy here is that Jim and all those people who don't want characters like the DOA franchise or characters like this to exist no longer want developers to design games the way they want to but to just have everything be mundane and realistic as possible where if someone sees something that is out of proportion that as an individual whether they will buy the game or not they suddenly feel entitled to demand changes despite not having any sort of ownership or in a management position of Tecmo.

The core of the issue is that are we going to really respect game developers and actually let them design games the way they want them and let them succeed or fail as a business be it if they actually demonstrate due diligence to research and market their games appropriately. Or, are we going to let individuals who have no stake in the success of failure of a company and the potential hundreds or thousands of people working day in day out to develop a product we want to our own personal specifications. I'm sorry but if we are really going to respect games as a form of media realize that not everything has to be gender neutral, or 100% customization because that takes away from any sort of specific narrative or story that the game wants to tell the player. Let developers develop the games they want them to be developed.

EDIT: I should also mention that in the terms of eye candy department or when it comes to female characters standing out for the video game generations have actually gotten a lot smaller because of the religious right of video games.
I think you are taking this a little personally.

It's not about the breast size, it's about Team Ninja creating female characters that don't exist in the uncanny valley. The girls could be more appealing if they didn't remind me of cheap Sex Dolls.

It's about Team Ninja blaming everyone else for people not liking the bad parts of their games, instead of them, who created the bad parts themselves.

It's about Team Ninja not being culturally sensitive and trying to compete in the market and them being surprised at other cultures not agreeing with them.

The point of the video is exposing the weak points of Team Ninja and they are welcome to take them and improve their products for a wider audience. In the end, everyone will win.
 

Agayek

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Jimothy Sterling said:
Why doesn't everybody? That is the real question.
When I first saw this, I felt the need to take a crack at your sexual prowess.

Then I realized that I had already lost that endeavor.

Touche sir.
 

lord.jeff

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I think realism is the wrong word to use when talking about DOA or any fighting game really. I'm completely okay with the tits of DOA a long as the devs don't try to pretend that it's anything more then either cheap wank material or a stupid joke.
 

Agayek

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Gordon Freemonty said:
Jim, thanks for making me momentarily fall out with my girlfriend.

Great video though.
This is a story that demands it be told.
 

Kekkonen1

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I thought we would be over moralizing over these kinds of things by now. Like Jim, I also personally find the team-ninja game to be extremely unsexy and rather low and I do find them rather laughable and stupid and immature, but I think that about alot of things. I thought it was stupid that the Tomb Raider-games had to have a heroine with enourmos cans as well, but it just doesn't bother me. If all games where like that? Sure, it would bother me. But they aren't, and never will be because peoples tastes differ. If some studio want to make games like that and find a market of people wanting to play them, so let them. What does it matter? Porn will always exist, and this is just borderline porn dressed up as a game, but so what?
 

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I've never payed much mind to the DoA series, but what kind of irks me is how the massive breasts and weird physics has went from "Cool, boobs," to, "oh god wtf this is just sick whats wrong with u team ninja," in the past year or two. Why the sudden change in attitude? I sure didn't see anyone complaining when DoA4 came out a couple years ago and hell I didn't see a whole lot on that ridiculous beach volleyball game either.

And while I can understand criticizing Team Ninja for trying to make piss poor excuses instead of just being upfront on how they make their games, I don't really understand the point of criticizing them over these things in the first place when Team Ninja's style has ALWAYS been like that. They're not hurting anybody, and if you're really opposed to how they're representing women then just don't buy their games.
 

ZLAY

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I can't help but to sigh after this. Honestly who gives a fuck about tits not behaving naturally in DOA? They won't change it and even if they do it wouldn't actually matter on the game industry. And the way you acted grossed out was kinda unexpected, it is someone's fetish and it's not even that weird compared to other stuff people beat off to...