Jimquisition: Monster Boobs And Plastic Children

Xan Krieger

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Speaking as a 22 year old straight male whose never seen naked breasts in real life I thank Team Ninja for doing what they do.
 

RJ Dalton

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Personally, I find the obsession with breasts as a sex symbol to be unsettling, immature and pointless. For starters, breasts are a motherly thing, so basically our whole culture is obsessed with fucking mothers. Very Freudian.
But more than that, why are breasts the only thing that is sexy? Why not try focusing on something that bespeaks of the individuality of the character, like, say, the face? Oh, right, because we don't really want individual characters here. We're just looking for a sex-object, ergo we focus on something that isn't capable of talking back.
 

blackrave

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There is nothing wrong in having breasts with physics
Similarly to first 3D character models, this stuff will become OK eventually
(at this point they move too slow and keep their inertia for too long)
In perfect case scenario this technology eventually will be developed for various breast sizes/forms/clothes and adapted also for males- pecs and manboobs
FaceGen also started with horrible monsters

On the other hand response of TeamN is kinda... strange (for a lack of better terms)
At this point I'm even starting to believe that they are saying these things to generate buzz
Because I don't think that these guys are THAT stupid.

Captcha: miss you
Captcha is again flirting with me :(
What is the most sensitive way to explain captcha that this relationship has no future?
 
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Darth_Payn said:
Andy of Comix Inc said:
These are the kind of issues I'd like to see being dug much deeper into. The Dead or Alive series creeps a lot of people out, but it can't just be the alien breasts. There's something more to it - something sinister - something about the way Team Ninja treats women in their games in general. It's beyond aesthetic, it's beyond fetishization and sexualization, there's something in the way they do it that stinks. In fact, I'd condone someone writing an essay on this subject.

There's something very, very wrong with Team Ninja.

josh4president said:
Could be worse

They could be those rigid fake breasts that do not move no matter what you do to them

You know, the ones that seem to follow you around the room no matter where you go
Are you sure they're not your own?
Side note: is Team Ninja involved in the Soul Calibur series too? I'm a straight, red-blooded man, but even I find the level of sexualization in those games' women almost insulting and blatantly pandering. Their ads seem to say "BOOBS! Now that we have your attention, buy our game featuring garish costumes on comically unproportioned women and laughably oversized weapons that don't draw a drop of blood! Because unlike SOME Game developers, we're not savages!"
No, Soul Calibur is Namco-Bandai. Personally, Soul Calibur never bothered me in this respect, since ridiculously designed characters and weapons seems to be the point.

When you have characters like this



in the game, I really don't think being realistic is what they're trying to do. I can see how people are put off by it though and don't begrudge anyone who doesn't like it. Also, that ad where they just showed a picture of boobs was just stupid. What they should have done is release that in addition with an ad showcasing Voldo's codpiece. At least then they'd seem like they were just dicking around and recognizing their craziness instead of outright pandering.
 

MatsVS

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Mygaffer said:
What children?
You can create a digital representation of a child, check age 18 in its biography box or whatever, but it still looks like a child. Feel free to pretend otherwise to alleviate your post-masturbatory guilt, however.

Xan Krieger said:
Speaking as a 22 year old straight male whose never seen naked breasts in real life I thank Team Ninja for doing what they do.
This, however, THIS I can respect.



Also, a general question: If DoA is such a SRIOUS FIGHTING GAME, why the voyeuristic camera function? (Pro-tip: if you think it's for watching replays of the fights to fine tune your technique, you're wrong)
 

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Jimothy Sterling said:
I watched a few episodes of High School of the Dead. I spent the whole time telling myself to be ashamed of how much I sort-of-kind-of enjoyed it in all its awfulness.
If you want a decent justification :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDii4knbtL8
It explores some mildly interesting concepts, aside from strange giggle physics.
 

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Deathlyphil said:
I want to buy DoA 5 because I like the fighting style. But I know that the first reaction anyone who seems me playing it will be, "you bought this for the boobs, didn't you?".

Team Ninja, please stop doing this so I can buy your games again.
This is how I feel about the series now.
 

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DVS BSTrD said:
Being such a crowded sea bound country, you can't blame the Japanese for wanting girls with huge... "tracts of land"
But THIS is a bit much.

<youtube=cNtlMjRqfQs>
to be fair the mangaka of that series basically did say "yes we are making a perverted series for 15 year olds." Though the manga didn't have the bullet time part to it.
 

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RJ Dalton said:
Personally, I find the obsession with breasts as a sex symbol to be unsettling, immature and pointless. For starters, breasts are a motherly thing, so basically our whole culture is obsessed with fucking mothers. Very Freudian.
But more than that, why are breasts the only thing that is sexy? Why not try focusing on something that bespeaks of the individuality of the character, like, say, the face? Oh, right, because we don't really want individual characters here. We're just looking for a sex-object, ergo we focus on something that isn't capable of talking back.
I just read about this.

See http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-young-phd/breasts_b_1910401.html

Basically it's about bonding. Men instinctively exploit the same stimuli that cause a mother to bond with her baby. So it's entirely natural to go nuts for boobs.

captcha: fair and square. Even the captcha agrees. Can't argue with that.
 

ZexionSephiroth

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And now I remember this one Gamer comic where someone depicted the situation as something like this...

DOA Girl 1: Ahh, my breasts! what are they doing?!
DOA Girl 2: THEY HAVE A MIND OF THEIR OWN!
*One of the girls Breasts tears off and flies into the air*
DOA Boob: I'm Free!
*DOA Boob continues into space*
...Now if only I knew where I saw that...
 

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contla said:
I'm surprised Team Ninja didn't put the sentient silicone in Samus during the other M.
Didn't stop Metroid other M from being an exercise in how NOT to to depict Samus. I'm still trying to figure out just who gets the lion's share of the blame for that mess.
 

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This video reminds me why I stick to the shallow end of Japan's weirdness. Mildly weird..sure sprinkle alittle here and there and it's still fun. You go far enough ...you go into things I rather not delve into. At some point I actually start feelign embaressed for whomever made it. That's when you've gone too far off the rails.

The statement that being creepy is cool in our culture and everyone else should back off bothers me. I doubt it's true that mainstream japan is absolutely ok with all that notion as I know there's still plenty of ultra conservative old school japan people out there too. That said as a disclaimer if younger japanese men were all wired to the expectation of that mindset, If ear for the girls of their country if that were true. Ultimately I haven't been there and try to refrain from making sweeping generalizations. I will dismiss as one asshat's defense for being a perv than toss a whole nations values under a bust....I mean bus.
 

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Glad to see that SOMEBODY besides me likes New!Dante.

maximara said:
Didn't stop Metroid other M from being an exercise in how NOT to to depict Samus. I'm still trying to figure out just who gets the lion's share of the blame for that mess.
Almost all of the problems with Other M can be traced directly back to Sakamoto.
 

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DVS BSTrD said:
Being such a crowded sea bound country, you can't blame the Japanese for wanting girls with huge... "tracts of land"
But THIS is a bit much.

<youtube=cNtlMjRqfQs>
That is either the single greatest or single worst thing I have ever seen...possibly both in some impossible but possible way.
 

maximara

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Andy of Comix Inc said:
These are the kind of issues I'd like to see being dug much deeper into. The Dead or Alive series creeps a lot of people out, but it can't just be the alien breasts. There's something more to it - something sinister - something about the way Team Ninja treats women in their games in general. It's beyond aesthetic, it's beyond fetishization and sexualization, there's something in the way they do it that stinks. In fact, I'd condone someone writing an essay on this subject.

There's something very, very wrong with Team Ninja.
As the Game Overthinker stated in "I heart Bayanetta" (episode 32) the head to body proportions of the "woman" in _Dead and Alive_ are for a lack of a better term "off" so you are already going into the Uncanny Valley. Throw in the breast physics and you are on the bullet train to Uncanny Valley Central.

To be fair to Team Ninja take a good hard look at nearly any adult female character that comes out of Japan and you will see the huge tracks of land on them. Heck even Ranma in his female form is sporting a C to D. The running gag through out the Slayers anime series and prequels is that Lina Inverse has small breasts and blows her top (followed by much of the landscape) when somebody points this out.


Team Ninja is a symptom of a much larger problem and it is not just in Japan either. Pick up about any American comic book and you quickly run into what is jokingly call the helium breast implant. Australia even has a law on the books forbidding woman with breasts "too small" from being shown nude under the guise of it supporting under age porn; I guess Baum was right--the Scarecrow (man without a brain) is truly ruling Oz (nickname for Australia).

The problem is not with Team Ninja but with our own messed up in the head attitudes regarding sexuality.
 

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Jimothy Sterling said:
I watched a few episodes of High School of the Dead. I spent the whole time telling myself to be ashamed of how much I sort-of-kind-of enjoyed it in all its awfulness.
I'll be honest. I watched it, and I enjoyed every second of it.

The boobs in DOA though, yeah no... I didn't enjoy that. I was captivated by their movement sure, but the entire time I was thinking "BOOBS DON'T MOVE LIKE THAT!!!!"