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- May 9, 2013
Or maybe most people are into looking at different ways to interpret a message. As not everything, but the most bold statements only have one meaning.MarsAtlas said:Because those people don't understand bivalent logic, don't understand the press release, or both.
Alright so you bring up some articles that didn't really mention the bug. However just as many articles got the nature of the bug wrong. Which was half the reason they made articles in the first place.-snip-
As for the Miiquality blog I already addressed that Tye didn't mention the bug because he knew the bug had nothing to do with gay relationships.
But it's clear that the bug played a major role in the controversy explosion because now you have this particular Jimquisition episode (which he later addressed) getting info on the bug wrong stating that it patched out gay marriage specifically and had some credence to his next argument. Although it focused more on PR and public statements.
Yeah. I said that a bazillion times to you know. I was talking about the people who bandwagoned on the campaign, misrepresented what Tye was going for and continued to spread misinformation about the bug in question.Then I think you would've noticed by now that the Miiquality mission statement paid no attention to the patch from a year ago.
They said no for this installment and in relation to the social commentary part that was a direct response to people accusing them of being bigots and anti gay marriage on the misinformation about the patch getting rid of gay marriage.No they didn't.
This was Nintendo's official response:
"Nintendo never intended to make any form of social commentary with the launch of 'Tomodachi Life'. The relationship options in the game represent a playful alternate world rather than a real-life simulation. We hope that all of our fans will see that 'Tomodachi Life' was intended to be a whimsical and quirky game, and that we were absolutely not trying to provide social commentary."
We have heard and thoughtfully considered all the responses. We will continue to listen and think about the feedback. We're using this as an opportunity to better understand our consumers and their expectations of us at all levels of the organization.
They said no, they said that they "have heard and thoughtfully considered all the responses." Their "thoughtful consideration" resulted in that first paragraph that says inclusion would be social commentary, and that they're not going to represent it because of that.
Yes, but they made a political statement when somebody figuratively walked up to them, asked them a question with a yes or no answer, and they answered "no".[/quote]
And they said no to this installment because it's a one year old game with the dev team doing other shit. They did not say no as an ultimatum because they went on to say that they will consider it for later editions if the feedback is positive enough.
Headliners and opening sentences matter. A lot of people do not read the full articles for anything. They look at the headliner, the first two sentences, cement their judgement on the matter and make a rant about it. That's why this went as horribly as it did.Huh, thats that very testable claim again that I saw earlier. Fifty percent this time, right? Well let me scroll up to earlier in this post.
Stretching it the most, its 50%, on the nose, but thats if you count the articles where the bug was irrelevant to the overall point of the article as well as articles that went out of their way to explain the previous misunderstanding regarding that patch, which was, hmm... all of the articles that mentioned the bug. Go figure. So I guess really that 0% of those articles are upset about the patch.
As someone already linked at the bottom it's not exactly "your life" because in the game itself you have no control over what your Mii's do anyway. Last time I checked I had control over my life and the actions I project in it.> The Point
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Its not about all games that don't have a same-sex relationship, and not a single person has ever claimed otherwise. Its about a game with the tagline "your life", a game where your avatar is supposed to be you... unless you're gay. I don't see anybody claiming that a game with a linear narrative is homophobic because the cliched romantic interest subplot is a heterosexual one. Similarly, nobody is calling the original Star Wars trilogy homophobic because the original trilogy had a heterosexual romantic subplot.
And Nintendo's was driven by homophobia?, that exclusion would be, well, exclusion, its not necessarily driven by homophobia.
Except that the Escapist is not the only thing on the web. Look at tumblr, look at the comments section of places like IGN, and Youtube. You will see no end in sight of this accusation and they fucking meant it.I've seen one person claim Nintendo is homophobic - one. And they retracted their statement before Nintendo even their apology because they realized that they had fallen into a fallacious train of thought.
But you did state their their original statement meant exclusion of gays and no on gay marriage. You might not of directly said they were homophobic, but when you make statements like that, don't be surprised that people might come to that conclusion with those words.I've never claimed that anybody at Nintendo is homophobic.
Except that accusing them of exclusion of gays, erasure, so on and so forth is malicious activity.I said that they generally avoid anything remotely controversial, and that their PR department walked them straight into the line of fire, but I never said that the company's intentions were malicious.
Except, you know, the same one in the video that you watched and called a guy a liar in. You must've stopped watching less than halfway through if you missed the point of the video. Additionally, I've been reading all of these threads. All. I can tell you what people on both sides are saying. Nobody is claiming malice on the side of Nintendo - just general fuckwittery. Nobody is continuing to bring up the bug, especially after they erroneuously mentioned it. Meanwhile, most of the people who are upset by the movement are the ones who cannot understand that many people on my side were upset by the press release, not whatever happened a year ago.
Citations? You yourself just said that Nintendo made a clear stance against homosexuality in regards to gay marriage. That in and of itself is against homosexual rights so there one in the camp right there.Citations please. Line them up so I can see them.
You only need to go as far as not the Escapist to see those claims on numerous occasions.I've not seen this claimed once except by somebody who shortly thereafter corrected themselves and said Nintendo is just being an incompetent buffoon instead of deliberately homophobic.