The downside to your argument is that it's also not uncommon for games to be traded in to purchase new games. Only selling them on your own won't guarantee you the money you need to buy a game and not in time for you to purchase it with your friends. I am glad Gamestop no longer has an outlet for just used games. The credit could be used for either store, but it was more of a hassle to trade them in at one store, the go to the other to buy a game. Also, having gamestop sell used games simply makes access to them easier for everyone. The more places games are available the easier it as a consumer to find them.alinos said:I;m only against Used games, When they are sold through the same retail store that sells the real thing.
If you want to buy used games it should be through craigslist,Ebay, or a cashconverters(not sure of the american equivilant(or if there is one))
This model is fine, but limiting distribution to only the developers website is a sure fire way to not let your game reach a lot of people and not make a lot of money. There was a little jewel of a game released this way that I'm quite sure almost no one has heard of, it's called Gemini Rue. A great game, but you can only guy it through the dev companies website. They would lose a percentage through Steam, but would more than likely have made so much more money off of it.Still Life said:What I would really like to see in terms of distribution models, is one where developers launch their titles from their own server network. I believe Frictional did this with Amnesia, by having the game downloadable from their main site. It was also on Steam, but I think it highlights quite a bit more flexibility than traditional publishing models.
Well, if you have a good enough PC you can get Halo 1&2 on PC and Gears Of War on PC aswell.Soviet Heavy said:
Funnily enough, those two series are the entire reason I own a 360 in addition to my PS3. Just bought Gears 3 yesterday, still haven't played it though because I bought Metal Gear Solid 4 along with it and the cut-scenes alone in that game will probably take me a week to finish.Soviet Heavy said:
Especially when films cost WAY more to make, and both the tickets and DVD's sell for WAY LESS than games.chstens said:This reminds me a bit of the old studio system in Hollywood early in the last century. Also, filmstudios and labels don't get to complain about movies and music being resold, why the fuck should game studios?
I'm not sold.Baresark said:This model is fine, but limiting distribution to only the developers website is a sure fire way to not let your game reach a lot of people and not make a lot of money.
Fantastic. Could not have said it better myselfbringer of illumination said:So in essence your argument is:
Waaaaah!!! Piracy is worse than trade-ins therefore trade-ins aren't hurting the industry at all!
Waaaaah!!! EA is a worse company than Gamestop (which they aren't, not by a long shot, at least EA actually funds games and many great games at that.), therefore all of Gamestop's bullshit nickle-and-dimeing and intentional working around the companies that actually makes the games are perfectly acceptable!
Waaaaah!!! I don't want the corporate fat cats at EA making money! I'd much rather give my money to the corporate fat cats at Gamestop!
Waaaaah!!! Murder is a worse crime than assault! Therefore punching random people on the street in the face isn't a problem at all!
Class act there Jim.
But alas, you're wrong.
You know who is really hurt by used games? All those smaller titles you talked about two weeks ago. They're the ones that can't afford great marketing, and thus can't push many unit at launch, but because of used sales, slow sales over time quickly regress to no new sales at all, because the games are being traded in is very high compared to the rate at which the game is being bought.
Stop using the car analogy, it's the only one I ever see and, to be frank, I'm sick of it. Get creative for once, people!ImSkeletor said:Thank you Jim for speaking the truth. It ticks me off that people say that I am as bad as people who PIRATE just because I LEGALLY sell my games and buy used games. Am I a bad person if I freaking sell my car to someone after I buy it?
First, the think for yourself argument is beautifully ironic. If you take a second to think about it.Mechanix said:Hopefully your video will change the opinions of the majority who are unable to think for themselves. And bravo on your capitalist argument; in my opinion, that statement about the positives and negatives of capitalism won the used games argument, and any argument from the other side cannot compete with that.
The EC guy has an annoying voice too. Or maybe that was a character voice for the video or something but it didn't appeal to me. And not to be a prick, but having a certain voice for video or radio IS important.PeePantz said:No they're not, they just talk fluff and wrap a pretty bow on games being ultra important to society. Jim Sterling does not. He's blunt. This industry needs more Jim Sterlings. While a lot of people, like the EC team, try to justify video games as contemporary pieces of art, once in a while (refreshingly), there are those who just commentate on games without speculation.cpt blackamar said:I like how jim has actually turned from making rather useless points to actually ones of real value. The guys at extra credits are still doing it better, but it's good to have someone else actually chipping in things of worth
I think the point of the video is that people have multiple avenues to explore, because it's their right. Some people wait for sales, some buy used games. To each their own.Frostbite3789 said:I've said it a million times and I'll say it a million times more. WAIT FOR EFFING SALES. It isn't hard. Every retailer puts out an ad in local papers at least once a week if not more. The print ads are easily found online and every single week there is a handful of games on sale.
This isn't even including Steam.
For instance Best Buy, three weeks after release already has Dead Island and Space Marine $10 off. Which is cheaper than you'd find a used copy at GameStop. Even cheaper than you'd find a PC copy anywhere else.
Arguing for used game sales because of pricing is like arguing that you're a lazy jackass who can't be bothered to look for a deal or can't wait for more than two weeks to get a game.