Job Recruiters Told Not to Hire WoW Players?

TheSeventhLoneWolf

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I think this empoying problem is really quite far-fetched. it's like refusing someone to work because they're wearing the wrong kind of shoes which dont enable them to walk as fast as everybody else, sounds silly, i know.

Also; the person who is a WoW player could be the next bill gates or somethin' and could be very useful to the job.

Shame on you employers.

Shame.
 

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uppitycracker said:
yeah that is pretty stupid not taking any personal traits into consideration. Sure, a lot of WoW players sacrifice their own wellbeing for the sake of playing the damn game. But at the same time, a lot of drinkers sacrifice that same wellbeing to stay drunk 24/7. Just seems poor practice. And with the number of people in this world that actually do play the game, it certainly does disqualify a large number.
One of these large no. of people could invent something revolutionary yet they now they are prevented. Thats the way to think... assume that doing something bad will lead to something even worse in the future or prevent something even better, then everyone will become a better person.
 

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TheSeventhLoneWolf said:
I think this empoying problem is really quite far-fetched. it's like refusing someone to work because they're wearing the wrong kind of shoes which dont enable them to walk as fast as everybody else, sounds silly, i know.

Also; the person who is a WoW player could be the next bill gates or somethin' and could be very useful to the job.

Shame on you employers.

Shame.
Thats what i agree with
 

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Tenmar said:
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CoziestPigeon said:
It's entirely fair. If they are paying someone to do what they want, you will do exactly what they want, or they will find someone else who will. It is not your right to get a job with them, and if they don't like the fact that you play games like WoW, tough shit. Guess that's not the job for you.
So, you think it's ok for your boss to control everything you do in your life, if you want to keep your job? Ummm, no - your personal time should not be held against you if it is not affecting your work.
Well actually in most big business jobs I have had yes they do control both your off time and on time. Ever since the PDA was created managers text their employees more than ever before letting them know how horrible they are doing every day they work. From my experience I've noticed more companies want to control the off time of employees to get more work done and use their personal activities as reasons to fire them.

My manager has asked me what video games I am playing not for conversation but to determine a reason to fire me that I am not dedicated to the cause (making money). He also takes pictures of social events as blackmail to make sure employees will do as he says because he can send the pictures to HR or his superior and fire for the reason "improperly representing the company and its vision".

So yeah bosses can and do control everything people do in life or you can lose your job. I do not mean to be this pessimistic it is just that I have seen technology used for malevolent reasons because it gets them ahead in life.

And if you disagree with me ask yourself this. How many times have you seen on the news of government or business employees fired for acts during their off time such as going to a house of berlesk, cheating, or saying racist comments all I just mentioned are not against the law but still they lose their jobs because of their "immoral" acts. Chances are without this age of information people would have their privacy back and be able to handle things privately. While I do not condone such acts it is up to the individual and direct family to handle such matters not the government or employer.
I know this isnt a nice thing to say, but i can safely say i hate my boss.
 

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I like to play WoW, and I enjoy raiding. I have yet to find a job that allows me to raid and have a steady sleep schedule. As a result, I haven't actively raided since Classic. I've been in a few casual raiding guilds that have allowed me to raid on occasion, but finding a guild that raids regularly on a schedule that allows me to be in bed when I need to be seems excessively difficult. Maybe that will change with this new optional-raid-time-extension patch, but I don't think it will be enough.

That said, I don't think playing WoW has an all around negative impact on people in regards to their ability to perform jobs well. Raiding is a group experience that requires teamwork, focus, and responsibility to carry out successfully. Leading a raid effectively requires leadership skills, strangely enough, and everything about WoW requires research skills, basic technical knowledge, and communication. Discriminating against people who play it is stupid.

Well actually in most big business jobs I have had yes they do control both your off time and on time. Ever since the PDA was created managers text their employees more than ever before letting them know how horrible they are doing every day they work. From my experience I've noticed more companies want to control the off time of employees to get more work done and use their personal activities as reasons to fire them.
Man, I am so glad that I got out of retail (knock on wood, I would like to keep my job). If I was working, I wasn't working hard enough (despite lacking the staff to get things done). If I was selling, I wasn't selling hard enough (despite constant unannounced changes to the policies that I was attempting to sell to now very angry people, to the best of my ability). If I wasn't working, I got cell phone calls about how horribly everything was going at work. If I was supposed to be getting off, I was given assignments that would take far beyond the remaining time to complete at the last minute.

They even said they would promote me, doubling my salary, so they increased my responsibilities and duties and all, put me through the training, and said they weren't going to promote me after all and kept me on the same schedule with the same responsibilities and duties without the pay increase. Then they hired some new staff, cut back on hours until nobody had any but the store and assistant store managers, and started to complain that we weren't meeting goals or performing our duties, which hadn't changed to reflect our hours. So far as they were concerned it was us not selling as well as we should be that was the cause of all their ills, not falling market share, the rise of new competitors, a three year void in advertising, or prices that continued to rise for services that continued to have benefits stripped from them.

So I found another job. One that pays more, has better hours, a stable schedule, people I enjoy working with, and utter freedom from constant doom and gloom from people who I'm sure were being pressured severely from above in a similar capacity. That's not always an option. I feel quite fortunate.
 

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It makes some sense. I mean if you're willing to pay $15.99 a month for a game, you probably don't have very good business sense.
 

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As someone who put 'Raid Leader' on their university application and got into one of the top 10 uni's in the UK, I scoff at this one year old article which has been necro'd on-and-off since then.

Of course I didn't write "I'm a raid leader in WoW" I made up a bunch of bullshit about macro and micromanagement to complete goal-oriented tasks using primarily voice and text communication...in a game setting.
 
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I find this to be very stupid as gaming shouldn't affect your real life in this way just as many people just as many other games excessively.
 

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Amnestic said:
As someone who put 'Raid Leader' on their university application and got into one of the top 10 uni's in the UK, I scoff at this one year old article which has been necro'd on-and-off since then.

Of course I didn't write "I'm a raid leader in WoW" I made up a bunch of bullshit about macro and micromanagement to complete goal-oriented tasks using primarily voice and text communication...in a game setting.
As tongue in cheek as this might be, think about it. Who would you rather have managing a team, someone who already runs/manages/organises a mix of people or someone who has no managerial background? After seeing the amount of work that goes into organising stuff for a gaming group, there's no reason that can't be applied to a working atmosphere.
 

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I love how so many people seem to assume a majority of the people playing WoW are of the classic MMO-gamer stereotype, lacking skills in managing their own hygeine, having irregular sleep patterns and spending every single second thinking about how they want to get home, log on and "pwn some n00bs"

I'm rather certain the players who act like that are a minority, compared to the casual players who don't...
 
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This is discrimination. There isn't another word for it, so let's not gel over the issue.

A subset of people, minority in comparison to the rest of the country in which they are trying to find work, are being deliberately turned down for jobs because of their culture and traditions. The only reason this flies is because people think video games are for kids, and it is okay to discriminate against people who enjoy them.

If you changed the wording from "WoW players meet online and raid, making them late," to "Religious group meets for prayer and spiritual meeting, making them late," there would be an uproar to shake the very heavens.
 

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Thurston said:
I've used online play as an example of my leadership capability. I got the job.
I've mentioned my time spent as a guild co-leader in job interviews. I organized events, wrote help guides and made maps and documents for our guild, did admin stuff, answered a lot of the email, moderated the forums, and updated the site on a daily basis. There are ways to mention you love gaming that highlight ways in which you were productive.

If you just say something along the lines of "Well, I spent a lot of time gaming", but have nothing else to really show for your time spent and you have a time gap on your resume, then it's usually a strike against you. People want to hire those who show they're capable of using their time wisely and who learn things.
 

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I knew a guy who went for a Defence interview and cited his experience captaining a starship in a Star Trek mush as leadership experience.

Consequently, he is now ineligible for any defence jobs ever.

Moral of the story: Don't mention your gaming habits in resumes/interviews.
Meh I get paid a very merry sum and I was hired almost entirely because of the community skills I learned in MMO's and MUD's.

And considering how well I've done it appears that I wasn't just bullshitting either :p.

So I would't personally follow that moral of yours ;).

pimppeter2 said:
Seems like a weird thing to say in an interview anyways.
I've said way weirder and I ALWAYS get hired. You just have to have the charisma to pull it off I guess. Which is quite a thing to say because I don't think I have it ;). Maybe I just read people better than this person does.

MelasZepheos said:
If you changed the wording from "WoW players meet online and raid, making them late," to "Religious group meets for prayer and spiritual meeting, making them late," there would be an uproar to shake the very heavens.
Well once heaven started shaking I'd say that religious group would have some strong evidence that they were right ;). *end lazy joke*