He's cheap, he' savailable. Like most Hollywood writers any ego has long since been beaten out, and here's the really really sad thing, those utterly awful Zak Penn movies you mention? Last Stand? Hulk? Elektra? Yeah while not over the top runaway hits, they all made money. In Hollywoodland quality is measured by money returns, not actual you know, being good or anything.Firanai said:Now seriously seeing the disastrous record of movies of Zak Penn, (lets not kid ourselves they were horrible) who though it would be a good idea to hire him?. I'm honestly curious, does he have some powerful connections or something like that?.
They all made short term money. X-Men: The Last Stand was really damaging to the X-Men franchise, has struggled in DVD and Blu-Ray sales. Elektra was even more poisonous to the Daredevil franchise than Daredevil was, and has done even worse in DVD and Blu-Ray sales.faefrost said:Last Stand? Hulk? Elektra? Yeah while not over the top runaway hits, they all made money. In Hollywoodland quality is measured by money returns, not actual you know, being good or anything.
Word on the street is, he didn't do much writing to begin with, but has the star power to force his way into various stages of production. His contract specifies minimum time of screen time and he even has final cut in many of the movies he is in.Xsjadoblayde said:Ah, cheers. I didn't realise Ed Norton did much writing for his work. That might explain the inexplicable respect i have for him. Penn should probably find a different creative outlet if his sole attempts are getting him in these awkward situations. Some IMDBing shall be done, later!Alex Co said:He was referring to Ed Norton who "wrote" the Hulk film he starred in. Apparently, this was a big issue and one of the reasons why he was replaced.
Don't forget: he is reliable, obedient and fast.faefrost said:He's cheap, he' savailable. Like most Hollywood writers any ego has long since been beaten out, and here's the really really sad thing, those utterly awful Zak Penn movies you mention? Last Stand? Hulk? Elektra? Yeah while not over the top runaway hits, they all made money. In Hollywoodland quality is measured by money returns, not actual you know, being good or anything.Firanai said:Now seriously seeing the disastrous record of movies of Zak Penn, (lets not kid ourselves they were horrible) who though it would be a good idea to hire him?. I'm honestly curious, does he have some powerful connections or something like that?.
Haha, that typo makes it sound like a movie about wrestlers more than anything.Alex Co said:Penn refers here to Ed Norton, whose attempts to assert a high degree of control over The Incredibly Hulk reportedly contributed to Marvel's decision to replace him with Mark Ruffalo.
Last I heard the vast majority of a Hollywood movie's money is still made in the theatrical release though. Even if a movie is a later hit on DVD/Blu Ray, like Judge Dredd, it's no sure bet that it'll get a sequel or even make back its budget. Part of the reason big dumb action movies are supplanting comedy and drama in Hollywood is that those films, untethered by culture-specific mores, play better overseas in developing countries like China and India where people still go out to the movies. There's a lot more competition in the home entertainment environment which America, and presumably other first world countries, increasingly prefer.Covarr said:They all made short term money. X-Men: The Last Stand was really damaging to the X-Men franchise, has struggled in DVD and Blu-Ray sales. Elektra was even more poisonous to the Daredevil franchise than Daredevil was, and has done even worse in DVD and Blu-Ray sales.faefrost said:Last Stand? Hulk? Elektra? Yeah while not over the top runaway hits, they all made money. In Hollywoodland quality is measured by money returns, not actual you know, being good or anything.
A smart studio isn't just looking for enough money now to fund their next film. They're looking for something with long-term sales potential well after its theatrical run. And that doesn't just come with making an entry in a popular franchise; that comes with making a good movie.
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Isn't there also the fact that Hollywood (and movie studios in general) just prefers to know immediately how 'successfull' something was?Ratty said:Last I heard the vast majority of a Hollywood movie's money is still made in the theatrical release though. Even if a movie is a later hit on DVD/Blu Ray, like Judge Dredd, it's no sure bet that it'll get a sequel or even make back its budget.