- Mar 17, 2010
1. Calling someone a prick is offensive, you know that, you wouldn't have said it otherwise, stop being a child.ArnRand said:Can I get a source on the thing about condoms? And which of my comments are disgusting? I said he was a prick, I guess that's a pretty terrible insult or something where you come from?Airsoftslayer93 said:I support Assange, Just watching that footage from the Apache helicopters made me sick, and the fact that there is a group out there that has published that information is great.
He worked with traditional media, and had to live on the road for a long time to avoid any dangers, the idea that those 'military secrets' were secret for a reason is bullshit, Having read a great deal of the papers leaked I can only conclude that most people, including it appears the majority of people posting in this thread, believe that the world is exceedingly black and white.
Some of your comments are actually pretty disgusting, as a citizen of the UK I can understand that we are the bad guys, for most of the world we are the enemies, open your eyes and realise that the more we know about the bullshit that our governments feed us, the better we can defend against that bullshit.
The coincidental nature of the allegations against Assange, the timing of them, the actual actions that he took, and the actions of the accusers, makes me think that the accusations are unjust. He had consensual sex with 2 women, neither time did he use a condom, they only made accusations after finding out about each other. It seems obvious to me that they are really pissed about him sleeping with someone else, not him sleeping with them.
Sweden has a history of quick extraditions to the US, just because no request has been made, does not mean that there isn't an agreement. I personally believe that the original plan was to extradite him from sweden to the US, due to the publicity surrounding that case I believe that that plan has been dropped. Although looking at the manner in which bradley manning has been treated should give some indication to how Assange can be expected to be treated.
This isn't about the bullshit our governments feed us, or about conspiricy theories and paranoia about the UK being the 'bad guys' to the world (Protip, we're not. A lot of countries see the UK as a santuary. You'll find plenty of immigrants stuck in a holding bay in Italy or somewhere saying they're desperate to get to the UK.) It's about a man fleeing rape charges. And by the way, there's nothing special about Swedish rape laws. 'One: ?The allegation of rape would not be rape under English law?
This is flatly untrue. The Assange legal team argued this twice before English courts, and twice the English courts ruled clearly that the allegation would also constitute rape under English law.'
2. Of course we are 'bad guys' we invade countries, destroy homes, kill civilians, repress the media, give weapons too immature boys and act surprised when they commit war crimes. We assist in the extradition and torture of innocent civilians, we put up with the existance of guantanimo bay. Of course we are fucking bad guys. Are you that blind that you don;t see that, that you buy into the whole 'lets give them freedom' shtick.
3. I've read that article, I disagree with alot of points that it makes. If you had read my first point though, you would see that I don't believe that america will try to extradite Assange anymore. They may have been thinking of doing so before the publicity surrounding his case blew up. You have to question, why is sweden doing this, They have never requested the extradition of a foriegn citizen in a case similar to this, only for murders. It's an awfully coincidental time to set a presendent, one that they haven't followed with anyone since.
Read what I'm saying before you start argueing with me, Pull your head out of your arse, it's time to realise that we have fucked over the rest of the world for too long, our country and our society aren't nice.