Jurassic World - That final scene (spoiler warning)

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Okay, so I just got back from seeing Jurassic World, and I thought it was a vast improvement on the previous two JP sequels. But, while there were plenty of good moment for me to enjoy, the absolute highlight was a certain conflict at the tail-end of the film, featuring not only a returning favourite character of mine, but also a team-up that will probably go down on a lot of online top ten lists for the next few months.

Those of you who've seen the film probably know what I'm talking about here, so I'd like to hear your thoughts on that particular scene. Did you like it? Dislike it? Did you feel it was over-the-top? Or do you perhaps have some other view of it?

Those of you who HAVEN'T seen the film yet, if you wish to avoid spoilers, you should probably not look at any responses to this post.
 

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Well, I knew it was coming. I had sort of heard rumors beforehand about the T-Rex fighting the Indominous and also that it might even be the original Rex from the first movie. Also, the movie is clearly setting up the Rex for some big reveal due to its absence alone -- You have that scene early on at the Rex Paddock where the T-Rex gets obscurred by the crowd!? Yeah right, a JP movie not showing a T-Rex... That'll be the day.

What I didn't expect was the T-Rex/Raptor team-up, and as soon as that happened I just went nuts. I was giggling and hooting like a drunk hyena that whole sequence. Just that one quick shot of the Raptor jumping on the T-Rex's back like it was saying 'I got your back, dude', it fucking slayed me.

And obviously the whole thing being a reference to the first movie where they fought eachother, but now they're teaming up. Oh man, it's so fucking stupid, but it was wonderful!
 

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Movie was okay. Didn't like the whole "let's humanize the dinos" angle that was already present and already stupid in JP3.
 

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For me the best part was when the credits started rolling, some genius at the top end of the cinema put his hands through the projector light and created a hand shadow dinosaur on the big screen. Someone else created a second one and they had a fight. It was glorious.

On topic, I have to say I didn't fully warm to the idea of the dino training up bit. I didn't mind it, but the exact point that I think stretched the idea too far was when the raptor and the T-Rex team up, and come to an amicable agreement afterwards leaving each other alone.

Even if they'd just removed the final surviving raptor coming in at the last moment and had some other distraction save the T-Rex (either the Indian owner guy or the nerd in the control room appearing unexpectedly with a gun and distracts it with gun-fire for example) and have the T-Rex fight it to the sea monster, then get spooked and run off.

But that's just me.
 

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I can't deny it, I loved it. It was stupid yes, but not offensively stupid. It was a very harmless and even endearing kind of stupid. When it comes to dinosaurs and especially stuff like Jurassic Park I still am kind of a child at heart so if a scene can make me go 'YEAH!' I might overlook a few glaring contrivances or unrealistic moments. Jurassic Park was full of unrealistic moments but they were done so well it wasn't glaringly stupid and the same goes for Jurassic World.

I think the trick is making it entertaining, a shitty movie having a contrived moment like that is just going to be mocked and hated and in a lesser movie I would have hated this scene for how contrived it was and how cheesy it was because my god it was so cheesy it could be considered a dairy product but my god they just got it right.

Sure it was dumb the way the Raptor charges out to save the T-rex's life complete with dramatic music as she jumped onto Indominus's back and then Rexy got back up and delivered whatever the dinosaur equivalent of a choke slam was. And yes it was bizarre the way the two dinosaurs were working so perfectly in tandem especially considering this wasn't predatory behavior and was something ripped out of a Kaiju movie. And yeah great coincidence that Mosasaurus was just hanging around to grab whoever was dumb enough to dangle their tail over the water. And of course in real life after the battle the two remaining dinosaurs would probably just attack each other, Rexy has been known to like Raptor meat in the past after all, rather than just seemingly smile at each other like 'got your back bro'. And yeah let's not even get started on Bryce Dallas Howard outrunning a Tyrannosaurus in fucking high heels

But oh my god it was SO GOOD! The moment when my friends and I realized that she was going to bring in the 'big guns' and the way we hear the T-rex stomping out of the paddock and the epic slow motion as the T-rex enters mainstreet and sees Indominus and you could practically hear a bell ring and an announcer yelling 'FIGHT' as the two attacked. (loved the T-rex destroying the Spinosaurus skeleton, refuse to believe that was anything more than a thinly veiled 'screw you' to JP3 which I welcome.) And yeah poor Rexy almost gets herself killed but then, of all things, the Raptor helps save the day and defying all their natural instincts these two species work together to bring down a monster that is a hybrid of them both. And then after the fight the pair stare each other down and there is a moment of recognition between the two of them as they seemingly make peace. It was glorious and the animation was so good because it was impossible not to see some kind of personality there, the T-rex was the old veteran who just showed that other ***** who's boss and is making peace with the brave Raptor who dared to do what was right. In the process tearing down the racial barriers that had effected these two for so long. (That's all me being silly and hyperbolic obviously).

Again, silly and stupid sure but so cool you don't care. Hell I found it oddly endearing, some people may complain about this anthropomorphizing the dinosaurs and I get that but you know audiences are already going to project a personality onto them anyway (for god's its name is REXY... presumably short for 'Rexanne') so why the hell not? It made a fun fight scene and oh man it was a great climax just that little better by adding something that I can objectively say is stupid but can also say with total confidence that I loved regardless.

I mean really it was just as contrived in Jurassic Park that the T-rex just snuck in and attacked the raptors, saving the main cast in the process, without human nor raptor noticing her come in. Or for that matter not breaking out of the Visitor's centre and chasing the jeep all the way out to the helicopter after she'd finished eating them. But we didn't care because it was such a cool satisfying ending and I feel the same way here. I bloody loved that scene, all the cheesiness in the world can't change the fact that the buddy duo of Rexy and Blue (and a giant oceanic Lizard) could take down the mighty and fearsome Indominus Rex.

And yeah it is the same T-rex from the first Jurassic Park. You can tell from the scars all over it (the old scars, not the ones gained by the end of the movie) which she got from the Raptor attacks. This was also confirmed by the director and the official marketing website. That also explains why she looked so old, all pale and greyish, she's been around for a long time. It was basically Liam Neeson if he were a dinosaur.... and a lady. A 'She-Rex' if you will. I knew she had to come into play in a big way for that reason alone and if she was only glimpsed briefly early in the movie you knew she was coming back to fight the big bad, no way they'd have the T-rex come back and do nothing. But the Raptor being an unlikely ally? That was definitely new. The right mix of old school nostalgia and new age 'wow didn't see that coming' and even just some cutesy 'aww dinosaurs made friends' kept me from caring too much about the cheese in the room.

Also can I just say I love that this scene, arguably the best scene of the film, wasn't ruined by the trailer? Like there were a lot of good scenes never shown in the trailers and that is so rare.
 

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I thought it was somewhat a plothole that they put the T REX RIGHT NEXT TO THE CENTRAL PLAZA!!! Granted I did remember when they did show the scene where the T Rex was located but come on! No matter how secure it was before the recent event, that was still a big danger to put the king of the Dinosaur that close to the public! In saying so, given to how stupid the people are for creating and building it in the first place, I shouldn't be suprised.

As for the fight itself, it was pretty cool and I knew the T-Rex alone wasn't to beat the genetic freak due to its intelligent so the team up was also great.

The final blow however was competely random like out of the Deep Blue Sea movie.

I did find it kinda funny how those two (T Rex and the last raptor) depart their own ways. Sort of like-

T-Rex "You're not going to attack me now?"

Blue "Naa it's cool."

T-Rex "Well ok, cya then."

Lastly I hoping that the HiSHE (How it should have ended) added the Spinasauras into the show down as if one on one was enough!
 

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My (very short) 2 cents: The Scene was great, but it would've been enough if I.Rex fell into the lagoon and then get eaten by Mosa. The "I'll flop on land and look like a stranded whale in the process" scene was just a TAD too much for me. Apart from that: HELL YEAH, MORE OF THIS!
 

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I thought the film was utterly horrific. I'm so glad I watched it in a double film day because otherwise I'd have been so disappointed.

Dinosaurs aren't people, stop making them people. Dinosaurs don't team up like that. Fucking stop making the ebul military PMCs because trade-tower-fall-down-day made you like the US military again! Dinosaurs are fucking stupid weapons, no wants dinosaurs in the military! They're just fucking animals, even the raptors are just smart animals, quit making them have enduring loyalty and crises of conscience. Two dinosaurs fighting, one of which was in the first film isn't epic, it's a CGI fight with a predetermined outcome. Chris Pratt is not a good actor and can't do gravitas. Giving the dinosaur Blade like levels of speshul is boring and doesn't mean shit because it's still just a big animal. The park had motion trackers, where did they go? Why breed an attraction that can camouflage when people demonstrably found elements of the tour where they couldn't see dinosaurs boring? If Malcolm couldn't outrun a T-Rex in sneakers why can she outrun one in heels?

EDIT: Stop trying to do the Weyland Yutani/Umbrella thing, Aliens did it right because it did it with some depth and complexity.
 

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ForumSafari said:
Chris Pratt is not a good actor and can't do gravitas.
Why breed an attraction that can camouflage when people demonstrably found elements of the tour where they couldn't see dinosaurs boring?


It wasn't intentional. Much as the dinosaurs in the first park where not meant to have males so they couldn't breed but could spontaneously turn male due to the modifications made to their DNA to allow them to survive in today's climate, the camouflage came as a result of the genetic material used to accelerate the creatures growth. Sure it's a stupid mistake, but it's an understandable one given it was being made by the same man who made it the first time.

Was the movie predictable? Yes. Was it dumb? Yes. Was it fun and entertaining? Hell Yes!
 

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I fucking loved it for what it was... Granted, the biggest complaint I could truly give that scene was something I started complaining about halfway through the movie[footnote]Those fucking heels! The camera angles are now just fucking with the fact that you clearly don't want to show that she still wearing fucking heels! AND she changed them into a different pair of heels before releasing the OG T-Rex? Get the fuck out of here, movie![/footnote], but considering I was already going along with the logic placed in this movie for the most part, it didn't bother me...

With that said, before the T-Rex came out of her "retirement", it did suck that Charlie got blown up (unexpectedly, I might add), Echo got fried (literally), and Delta got squashed... I'm glad Blue teamed up with the T-Rex and lived (I guess), but the more I think about it, the more I kinda wished the now-dead raptors got some kind of "R.I.P"-ish moment for their service, which is funny considering they could have been used as military fodder if InGen got away with it if it weren't for those meddling main characters and their little raptors too...
 

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Zontar said:
the camouflage came as a result of the genetic material used to accelerate the creatures growth. Sure it's a stupid mistake, but it's an understandable one given it was being made by the same man who made it the first time.
It does somewhat raise the question of why no one watched the dinosaur at all during that time, how on earth was the fact that it could turn into the fucking Predator a surprise? My assumption was that Wu did it deliberately and that he hadn't wanted to mention it because Weyland Yutani and all.

EDIT: That's what got me, not only was this thing camouflaged like a chameleon or cuttlefish but it was damn near cloaked.

If he seriously just didn't notice then I'm shocked he was still alive because he would have been so stupid it's a wonder he was able to consistently get food in his mouth.

As for gool ole Starlord and his narming it was just painful.
 

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Also, the moment where the T-Rex did her final roar before the credits rolled was... okay, at best, the more I think about it...
 

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What a load of crap, why would anyone be so hell bent on trying to make a dinosaur a weapon? There is so much wrong with the idea.

The whole film seemed to be about setting up an 'epic' battle between raptors and stupid-saurus rex but when it did finally happen it was boring. still better than that mayweather fight though.

Also the dinos didn't act like animals. I mean, just because stupidsaurus rex has some shared genes with a raptor doesn't mean they will be bestist best friends, pretty sure they would be aggressive to each other.

Didn't understand the whole kids part either, the bit where they are on that train and the slightly more annoying one is crying about his parents getting a divorce. What exactly was that all about?

oh well game of groans season finale tonight, hopefully that won't let me down.....
 

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The whole film seemed to be about setting up an 'epic' battle between raptors and stupid-saurus rex but when it did finally happen it was boring. still better than that mayweather fight though.
I kind of felt like they wrote the ending based on what a focus group of retards from the Internet said would be great. They went so much for the 'epic' it almost felt like ninjas were going to jump in throwing bacon, beards and zombies at any moment.

Didn't understand the whole kids part either, the bit where they are on that train and the slightly more annoying one is crying about his parents getting a divorce. What exactly was that all about?
I forgot about that completely. Way to not pick up the thread guys.

Now that I think about it I'm legitimately angry at having paid to see this. I'm a britbong and cinema is damn expensive over here.

EDIT: The more I think about it the surer I am that this film was originally supposed to be quite different and suffered from some fairly significant meddling.
 

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Zontar said:
ForumSafari said:
Chris Pratt is not a good actor and can't do gravitas.
Why breed an attraction that can camouflage when people demonstrably found elements of the tour where they couldn't see dinosaurs boring?


It wasn't intentional. Much as the dinosaurs in the first park where not meant to have males so they couldn't breed but could spontaneously turn male due to the modifications made to their DNA to allow them to survive in today's climate, the camouflage came as a result of the genetic material used to accelerate the creatures growth. Sure it's a stupid mistake, but it's an understandable one given it was being made by the same man who made it the first time.

Was the movie predictable? Yes. Was it dumb? Yes. Was it fun and entertaining? Hell Yes!
Huh, I also thought it was intentional. Dr. Wu was very cautious when explaining how and WHY the Indominus had features like camo and heat stealth. To me it made perfect sense that the real purpose of the Indominus was for military use, with the attraction side of it used as a cover up.

OT: I loved it. I remember before watching it thinking "how cool wouldn't it be if good old T-Rex showed up and kicked dino ass?" and "that masosaur has got to have more to say in the plot than just eating a shark and a dactyl". And then the movie just says "you asked for it, we present to you, the dino battle of the century!".
 

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Enjoyed the scene for what it was. The film was so stupid I'm glad they embraced the cartoonyness of events and did what they did with the team up. Though despite it being funny, I didn't find it at all exhilarating. It was just too much like a marvel or transformers movie, no stakes, lots of movement without impact, only one possible outcome regarding survivors. Having a velociraptor get tossed around like a doll without breaking bones only makes it seem more like a video game character and less like a predatory animal. The 'You have betrayed me little sister! I thought you were coooooooooooool!' roar from the indominatus at the raptor was particularly hilario.

From the beginning I knew the movie wasn't for me, so I can't claim to be disappointed or betrayed, and not because it was a film for children, films for children embrace wonder and awe, jurassic world didn't even try. I was disappointed because it was a film made for the dumbest kind of adults, less for children desensitized to violence, and more for adults desensitized to being treated like children.
I think its odd when fans of the original talk as though this movie is a natural progression, as though when they saw the original they wanted to see a velociraptor and t rex work together or raptors running alongside a motorcycle and this is the film that finally delivers on that promise. Like people really want to see humans riding on the back of dinosaurs, gene potions that turn people into dinosaurs with little wigs on, a dinosaur that's a terminator, a dragon that airlifts and delivers t-rex's into combat, a feral girl raised by dinosuars who tucks her arms to her armpits and believes she's a dinosaur, a dinosaur terrorist leading a dinosaur uprising and he has cataracts so wears special dinosaur sunglasses, somebody getting swallowed by a dinosaur and cutting their way free from its belly with a light saber. It sounds silly but those are exactly the imaginations this movie caters to. My imagination doesn't work that way. Fan service for a different kind of fan I suppose.
 

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ForumSafari said:
Stop trying to do the Weyland Yutani/Umbrella thing, Aliens did it right because it did it with some depth and complexity.
Honestly, as much of a cliché it is to weaponize things in movies/games, this was one of the few instances where it actually made some sense (within the confines of the movie). Raptors can be trained to follow basic orders? Yeah, I can see how that could be applicable to military operations.
 

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Raptors can be trained to follow basic orders? Yeah, I can see how that could be applicable to military operations.
Kind of yeah, I can understand the temptation but I didn't think the raptors were tractable enough or, frankly, effective enough to warrant that level of interest. One of the reasons xenomorphs work as a bioweapon is that you're in space so you're not standing on the same planet as the target and controlling them isn't a consideration, can you imagine being the poor sod that has to get the raptors back in the box after an engagement? I mean Starlord imprints on them at birth and his control was tenuous at best.

I just didn't see the advantage over drones. Any war where dinosaurs work will be one where drones work. Drones can be hacked true but drones don't go to sleep, wander off-mission or kill your own troops. They also don't require handlers on site. Wanting to use dinosaurs in warfare struck me as a huge case of 'because we can' rather than 'because they're genuinely useful'.
 

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ForumSafari said:
Wanting to use dinosaurs in warfare struck me as a huge case of 'because we can' rather than 'because they're genuinely useful'.
To be fair, that's the mindset behind a lot of the RnD for the US military, though usually there are scientific and economic benefits to that line of thinking in the long run (if you're using a computer or television build after 2008, there's something in the machine which was developed or improved upon specifically because of Iraq and Afghanistan, for example).

For a PMC seeing them able to be controlled, even if tenuously, the idea is one which probably would form, and given this is the Jurassic Park series, where 'speared no expense' means 'not paying the one guy who controls the whole place well even though you know he has money problems', it's understandable.