Justice League Movie Unlikely Due to "Bigger" Roster Than Marvel's

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Wandrecanada said:
I think it's pretty clear from the state of the comic industry who is coming out ahead with "bigger" superheroes right now and it's not DC. Superman and Batman might be better known names in mass market households but that has nothing to do with Johns failtrain of recent years. His personal direction for DC has had a hand in allowing Marvel IP to obtain a level of mass appeal unheard of since wartime propaganda machines while DC wallowed in it's own brand of nostalgic oubliette filled with angst and elitism.

Marvel has been doing things right. It's not trying to sit on laurels of the past nor is it ignoring the importance of adapting to the future. Weather you're a fan of one brand or another the one thing I believe everyone should agree with is that Geoff Johns' self inflated ego is bringing down a very large and important part of the comics industry and I don't think it will survive if we allow him to damage it further. Marvel and DC fans should stand united in getting rid of these egotist nostalgia mongers forever.
This guy gets it
 

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The Bandit said:
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Tomtitan said:
Wolverine isn't going to be in it because... well... he's not an Avenger. He's a mutant... an X-Man.
Wolverine has been on the Avengers/Secret Avnegers roster for a good while now, what are you talking about! And I don't see what being a mutant has to do with anything, there have been mutants on the roster before.
That's because pretty much every character in Marvel history has been a member of the Avengers at least once.
Except Doc Samson. Poor Samson.

I actually find Jones's comments funny because Marvel's stories about the Avengers are the ones that usually focus on the individual characters while the majority of the Justice League stuff I've read(admittedly rather small) seems to focus on must stop big bad right now. Except Infinite Crisis, but that was kind of the point of Infinite Crisis.
 

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Too big? Try too one-dimensional and for the most part defined by their villains and not themselves (Batman mostly). To say the heroes themselves are bigger than Marvel's is the kind of thing I'd expect from the mouth of someone in his position but it doesn't make it a good excuse. It shows that the writers to this point haven't been up to snuff and the production companies don't want to pool the income they make on individual movies.

Besides, cartoon Justice Leagues movies have worked fine without it coming down to who gets more screentime. The biggest hurdle is finding something to occupy/defeat Superman. And, they'd have to show Batman on-screen working with someone else, because the Bale-Batman can't do that quite yet. Good way to do this? Robin.. (Or a live version of that excellent Superman/Batman cartoon movie where Joker and Luther teamed up so Superman and Batman kinda had to)

edit: Also, they could easily get away with not giving a lot of time to some of the well, not so great members. I mean, is there really a big calling to give Aquaman a major part of the plot?
 

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Considering that the Avengers looks like its going to be absolutely terrible, I'm glad that DC isn't going to follow the leader. DC's current focus seems to be making the best movie possible - that's it. They don't care about franchises or tying together a ridiculous universe of aliens, Viking Gods, and robots. They just take a script and make it the best movie they possibly can. Batman Begins and the Dark Knight weren't made with sequels in mind, and they're the best superhero movies EVER. Maybe Marvel can take a tip or two from DC.
 

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I still can't believe it took 41 years for someone to put Spider-Man on the Avengers for the long term. Shame Brian Michael Bendis is the one writing. Huh? Oh, yes, the Justice League, I think they should have just gone along with the original plan and treated it as a completely separate movie. But maybe if we eventually have good movies made about Green Lantern, Superman (Returns doesn't count), Wonder Woman, and The Flash, we could just have a big ol' crossover and throw in Martian Manhunter.
 

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It probably comes down to the fact that most live action DC films suck, Save about five (and there's a lot more than five).
I doubt anyone knows this fact more than the Big Brains of DC Comics.
 

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I'm inclined to say that the Justice League is best left to animation rather than live-action Feature Films.

But a World's Finest movie? Now that would be awesome!
 

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Let's be honest here, Marvel does the better live-action movies, DC does the better animated...everything. There's a good balance in that.

Seriously, the DCAU utterly stomps the existance out of every animated endeavor that Marvel's taken, but it's hard to argue that Marvel's live-action films are better than pretty much anything DC's thrown at 'em. True they weren't all good (despite what I think (and at times in spite of what I think), people just seem to hate Daredevil and Spider-Man 3) but hey, at least they didn't put out Catwoman.
 

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Shoggoth2588 said:
What would be the point of a Justice League movie without Superman and Batman?

If WB isn't sold on the idea of the Justice League movie than why not do a Superman-Batman movie? If they really believe themselves when they say their heroes are bigger than those of Marvel, wouldn't it be pretty bad ass to have them come out and say "it takes a team of Avengers to save some worlds. But it only takes two heroes to save ours" or something?

The animated movies sell; why not use one of those plots for a live-action Justice League?
Honestly, because I don't think Batman fits into that universe to well, much less the one portrayed in the movies. What makes the Batman movies work imo is the fact that he is a human, fighting other humans, no special powers and shit along just crime and psychopaths. Mixing Superman into it makes batman a support character imo. And lets face it, Supermans a f**king pansy.

And better than Marvel?!? Please...

Only DC comic I'd give that might be Watchmen.
 

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BlueHighwind said:
Considering that the Avengers looks like its going to be absolutely terrible, I'm glad that DC isn't going to follow the leader. DC's current focus seems to be making the best movie possible - that's it. They don't care about franchises or tying together a ridiculous universe of aliens, Viking Gods, and robots. They just take a script and make it the best movie they possibly can. Batman Begins and the Dark Knight weren't made with sequels in mind, and they're the best superhero movies EVER. Maybe Marvel can take a tip or two from DC.
The Avengers film will be terrible, but enjoyable non-the-less, much like ALL of Marvel's movies. (except Wolverine origins and in my opinion Elektra)

PS: The only good films DC has ever made were Batman ones, and by good there I mean enjoyable. And those ones aren't even about a 'Superhero'.

(Woop, forgot Watchmen, which was an alright film. Could've been done better imo though, instead it focused on the spetacle/action which is what Marvel does too)
 

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Tomtitan said:
Wolverine isn't going to be in it because... well... he's not an Avenger. He's a mutant... an X-Man.
Wolverine has been on the Avengers/Secret Avnegers roster for a good while now, what are you talking about! And I don't see what being a mutant has to do with anything, there have been mutants on the roster before.
Heh, he actually on two official Avengers teams now regular avengers and NEW avengers (which isn't that new now). As well as being an X-man and leading X-force. Well I guess his secondary power is multi-tasking.
 

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Well I would not like to see a JL movie unless they did it the way Marvel has an built it up with all the big name actors from the individual movies.

I would see it; if it came out though.
 

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Not likely??? All the more reason to bring back the the cartoon. If you think the cartoon sucked, your just a silly billy.

If I had 60 billion dollars, I'd make the movie myself.
 

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JL movie would only work without Batman. Don't get me wrong, Batman is awesome, but he is a loner and perfect for dark and grim movies, he doesn't fit with any other DC character.
 

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wastaz said:
Once upon a time there actually was a justice league TV movie
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_League_of_America_(TV_movie)


It was really, really, really, bad.
That picture, looks like an episode of friends, if they all dressed up as Superheros....
 

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A Justice League movie without Batman or Superman would by like an Avengers without Captain America. There wouldn't be much to it.
 
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Hmm... a team of four different personalities... a team of a loner, a god, and eight interchangeable nobodies... a small team of clashing badasses... a clusterfuck of lackluster DC characters.
Why would they pass on a Justice League movie? I wonder....