Justice League Movie Unlikely Due to "Bigger" Roster Than Marvel's

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JakBandit2208 said:
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I think it's pretty clear from the state of the comic industry who is coming out ahead with "bigger" superheroes right now and it's not DC. Superman and Batman might be better known names in mass market households but that has nothing to do with Johns failtrain of recent years. His personal direction for DC has had a hand in allowing Marvel IP to obtain a level of mass appeal unheard of since wartime propaganda machines while DC wallowed in it's own brand of nostalgic oubliette filled with angst and elitism.

Marvel has been doing things right. It's not trying to sit on laurels of the past nor is it ignoring the importance of adapting to the future. Weather you're a fan of one brand or another the one thing I believe everyone should agree with is that Geoff Johns' self inflated ego is bringing down a very large and important part of the comics industry and I don't think it will survive if we allow him to damage it further. Marvel and DC fans should stand united in getting rid of these egotist nostalgia mongers forever.
This guy gets it
Can we take at least half of Bendis' books away from him while we're at it?
 

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Considering that the Avengers looks like its going to be absolutely terrible, I'm glad that DC isn't going to follow the leader. DC's current focus seems to be making the best movie possible - that's it. They don't care about franchises or tying together a ridiculous universe of aliens, Viking Gods, and robots. They just take a script and make it the best movie they possibly can. Batman Begins and the Dark Knight weren't made with sequels in mind, and they're the best superhero movies EVER. Maybe Marvel can take a tip or two from DC.
The Avengers film will be terrible, but enjoyable non-the-less, much like ALL of Marvel's movies. (except Wolverine origins and in my opinion Elektra)

PS: The only good films DC has ever made were Batman ones, and by good there I mean enjoyable. And those ones aren't even about a 'Superhero'.

(Woop, forgot Watchmen, which was an alright film. Could've been done better imo though, instead it focused on the spetacle/action which is what Marvel does too)
How in the name of Thor's Hammer did you ALREADY decided that the Avengers movies looks bad? All those trailers? Or the pre production art? Or did you not like the Thor and Captain America movies?

Oh wait, you can't possibly know if it is going to be good or bad because all they have is a cast, half of which have kicked ass in other films.

A JL movie would be near impossible because even in the comic universe the JL is mainly responsible for fighting aliens. And since even in the films Superman only fight Luthor who has a land grab scheme it won't be very popular.
 

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Kurokami said:
BlueHighwind said:
Considering that the Avengers looks like its going to be absolutely terrible, I'm glad that DC isn't going to follow the leader. DC's current focus seems to be making the best movie possible - that's it. They don't care about franchises or tying together a ridiculous universe of aliens, Viking Gods, and robots. They just take a script and make it the best movie they possibly can. Batman Begins and the Dark Knight weren't made with sequels in mind, and they're the best superhero movies EVER. Maybe Marvel can take a tip or two from DC.
The Avengers film will be terrible, but enjoyable non-the-less, much like ALL of Marvel's movies. (except Wolverine origins and in my opinion Elektra)

PS: The only good films DC has ever made were Batman ones, and by good there I mean enjoyable. And those ones aren't even about a 'Superhero'.

(Woop, forgot Watchmen, which was an alright film. Could've been done better imo though, instead it focused on the spetacle/action which is what Marvel does too)
How in the name of Thor's Hammer did you ALREADY decided that the Avengers movies looks bad? All those trailers? Or the pre production art? Or did you not like the Thor and Captain America movies?

Oh wait, you can't possibly know if it is going to be good or bad because all they have is a cast, half of which have kicked ass in other films.

A JL movie would be near impossible because even in the comic universe the JL is mainly responsible for fighting aliens. And since even in the films Superman only fight Luthor who has a land grab scheme it won't be very popular.
Do you ever turn on your computer expecting it to crash and burn? No, its a possibility but from experience you assume it'll turn on normally like every other time you've turned it on in the past. You're right its not necessarily going to be terrible but past experiences make me expect it to be shitty, but enjoyable like the rest of Marvel's films. I'll grant you that my wording wasn't exact, but I should hope you understood what I actually meant by it.
 

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'our characters are too big for a JLA movie'
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'we goofed our inter-continuity and it isn't possible within the next decade'

So...
Actually, I'll let this video say it for me.
 

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Dudes what are u talking about they just need to unite them all justice league and marvel easy then build a hipe and relise a movie with superman,batman,F4,xman,spiderman,flash,wonder woman,thor,black panther,camptain,ironman,hulk,aquaman,green lantern,hawk eye,daredevil,spider woman,mr.strange,ms.marvel,mr.marvel,captain marvel black canary,red tornado, hawk,green arow,vigilante,stargirl,ray,hawk girl,she hulk and ghost rider.For vilains it could be dr.doom,magneto,galactus,mooduke,the joker,Loki Laufeyson (brother of thor) and his wife Sigyn
 

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The Justice League is a who's who in the DC universe, featuring Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, the Flash, Green Lantern, and Martian Manhunter as core members. According to Johns, DC bringing all of these top-tier superheroes together in a Justice League film seems unlikely.

At a New York Comic Con panel, when Johns was asked whether the Justice League could come together on the big screen someday, he said: "I'm going to speak frankly: I think our characters are bigger than Marvel's." In his opinion, it'd be better to focus on each individual hero of the League rather than "smashing them together." A Justice League movie was given a tentative green light by Warner Bros recently, but if the movie does eventually come together it might not feature Superman or Batman in the roster.



Take Martian Manhunter, Aquaman and Flash out of that and you can do a Justice League movie.The thing is is that DC does not have the movie studio like Marvel.There for they would have to sell the license to some company to make there movie.An you know how Hollywood movie company's love to shit all over established content.

I'M sorry Mr Jones but Batman and Superman are the only books keeping DC alive.All your other characters are kinda lame or just look bad in there costumes.You could make a Justice League movie but the truth is that you don't want to because you couldn't hope to match Marvels movies.An by Marvels movies I'm talking about Incredible Hulk, Iron Man, Thor Cap America.Also I bet Green Lantern wont pull in the cash like Thor or Cap America will.
 

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IamGamer41 said:
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Take Martian Manhunter, Aquaman and Flash out of that and you can do a Justice League movie.The thing is is that DC does not have the movie studio like Marvel.There for they would have to sell the license to some company to make there movie.An you know how Hollywood movie company's love to shit all over established content.

I'M sorry Mr Jones but Batman and Superman are the only books keeping DC alive.All your other characters are kinda lame or just look bad in there costumes.You could make a Justice League movie but the truth is that you don't want to because you couldn't hope to match Marvels movies.An by Marvels movies I'm talking about Incredible Hulk, Iron Man, Thor Cap America.Also I bet Green Lantern wont pull in the cash like Thor or Cap America will.
1. Don't take the Flash or Martian Manhunter out--those two are core members.

2. Why not have a JL movie with seven core members (Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern(I'd go with Kyle Rayner or John Stewart), Martian Manhunter, Flash(Wally West), and Hawkman/Green Arrow. Aquaman could be an ally whose primary concern is protecting his ocean kingdom.

Better yet--here's a plot! One of the founding seven dies (Hawkman) during an alien invasion the JL thwarted; eventually, Green Arrow reluctantly joins, taking the seventh slot.

3. Alternately, they could just adapt the Timmverse/DCAU JL ep "Secret Origins".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrS5a7Dmsww

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Anyway--what's stopping DC comics from having a movie studio? Aren't they a part of one of the biggest media companies in the world!?

Warner Bros.; hello...? Open a division for DC Comics to make their movies.
 

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acsoundwave said:
IamGamer41 said:
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Take Martian Manhunter, Aquaman and Flash out of that and you can do a Justice League movie.The thing is is that DC does not have the movie studio like Marvel.There for they would have to sell the license to some company to make there movie.An you know how Hollywood movie company's love to shit all over established content.

I'M sorry Mr Jones but Batman and Superman are the only books keeping DC alive.All your other characters are kinda lame or just look bad in there costumes.You could make a Justice League movie but the truth is that you don't want to because you couldn't hope to match Marvels movies.An by Marvels movies I'm talking about Incredible Hulk, Iron Man, Thor Cap America.Also I bet Green Lantern wont pull in the cash like Thor or Cap America will.
1. Don't take the Flash or Martian Manhunter out--those two are core members.

2. Why not have a JL movie with seven core members (Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern(I'd go with Kyle Rayner or John Stewart), Martian Manhunter, Flash(Wally West), and Hawkman/Green Arrow. Aquaman could be an ally whose primary concern is protecting his ocean kingdom.

Better yet--here's a plot! One of the founding seven dies (Hawkman) during an alien invasion the JL thwarted; eventually, Green Arrow reluctantly joins, taking the seventh slot.

3. Alternately, they could just adapt the Timmverse/DCAU JL ep "Secret Origins".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrS5a7Dmsww

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Anyway--what's stopping DC comics from having a movie studio? Aren't they a part of one of the biggest media companies in the world!?

Warner Bros.; hello...? Open a division for DC Comics to make their movies.

Your right that they are 2 core members but look at it like this.Fans know who Martin Manhunter is but the average people dose not.An the average joe is what they would want to bring into the theater to see the movie.beside he looks totally lame as do most DC characters.

They maybe part of Warner Bros but why aren't they more DC movies? Or more importantly why do most of them suck? Other then the reboot of Batman they have been pretty bad.I hope Green Lantern does well but I don't think it will. I found if funny that that dude thinks DC characters are to big for a group movie.It would just take good writing an a good director to pull it off but I believe he just dosen't want to.
 

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If their making an Avengers movie they should make JLA Movie. Other than Ironman, Capt. America, Hulk, and Thor, I honesty know nothing about the other Avengers and I could name even half of the X-Men. I can look up at that picture on top of the page an tell you all of the JLA members up there.
 

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Im not a huge fan of anything DC but it would be cool because the building they based the Hall of Justice on is in my Hometown of Cincinnati Ohio

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cincinnati_Museum_Center_at_Union_Terminal
 

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Yeah, I'm going to have to call bullshit on that. So far, the Avengers movie has confirmed Captain America, Iron Man, Hulk, Thor, Nick Fury, Black Widow and Hawkeye. Seven characters All of whom are played by relatively big name actors. It's the same number mentioned in the above article. Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Flash, Green Lantern, and Martian Manhunter are the only ones you need in order to make a Justice league movie.

But it doesn't matter. Once The Avengers makes a gillion dollars at the box office, DC will get off their ass and at least give us a "World's Finest" movie.
 

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JL movie would only work without Batman. Don't get me wrong, Batman is awesome, but he is a loner and perfect for dark and grim movies, he doesn't fit with any other DC character.
Yeah, That's why Batman was never a member of the JLA and has never ever worked with anyone else ever.
 

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Tom Goldman said:
Justice League Movie Unlikely Due to "Bigger" Roster Than Marvel's
Please. Marvel's characters are far deeper. Sure, Batman and Superman are better known, going by that definition of "bigger." That just means better branding/marketing. If anything, the result is a shallower character designed for wider appeal, capable of being summed up by... well... the name. He's a "super" "man," get it?

A Justice League movie is less likely because all anyone cares about are Superman and Batman. Additionally, the characters just aren't deep enough to have a real identity. Their "struggles" are too generic and interchangeable, so balancing an ensemble of those characters would only serve to highlight the overwhelming similarities.

When you look at the Marvel roster, especially in the hands of Joss Whedon (There's a lot to hate, but damn the guy can handle an ensemble well), there's a lot to work with:

Iron Man: He's your "Batman," but with better-defined parental issues, faced with his own mortality and trying to reconcile his past money-grubbing with the idea of a legacy.

the Hulk: Science-gone-wrong, he's a picture of the struggle of "taming the beast within." He's the B. A. Baracus of this crew, mixed with Jekyll and Hyde.

Thor: He's your "Superman" -- an alien filled with power suddenly thrust into a world that needs protection. Only he's not quite the Mary Sue that Superman has always been. He's physically and emotionally vulnerable, and he doesn't have all of the occasionally-overbearing idealism of Superman. The guy was/is a god, and he's aware of that.

Captain America: The symbol. The embodiment of the best mankind has to offer, and a "true believer" in the spirit of America... suddenly fast-forwarded into the future, and having to deal with what America has become over time.

There's a lot more going on than "Batman is the dark one. Superman is the light one."
 

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The guy is right. Each Avengers hero got their own movie (or two) prior to the release of The Avengers. The Justice League is far bigger, which would require a longer time before the actual Justice League movie to come out (I mean, they did have a Superman Returns, the newer Batman movies, and Green Latern), since they have four more movie to go, and I'm going to assume that because the Green Lantern movie blew so hard that WB will want to try another one that won't suck as much (or not).

And the JL movie wouldn't be able to be as short as the Avengers will be, since there are so many characters. It's have to be much longer. Like Lord of the Rings Extended Edition long.
 

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Blind Sight said:
I want a movie about The Question, but since he's such an obscure character in the DC universe I doubt it'll ever happen. Shame, because an Objectivist super-detective might actually fit fairly well into Nolan's Batman movies as a side character.
Yeah, that's almost as unlikely as movies about Jonah Hex or John Constantine.
 

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McMarbles said:
Blind Sight said:
I want a movie about The Question, but since he's such an obscure character in the DC universe I doubt it'll ever happen. Shame, because an Objectivist super-detective might actually fit fairly well into Nolan's Batman movies as a side character.
Yeah, that's almost as unlikely as movies about Jonah Hex or John Constantine.
They still probably have larger fan bases then The Question. I mean, didn't he die from cancer in the DC Universe a year or two ago?