Killers Confess in World of Warcraft

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sir.rutthed said:
Dude, it's a GAMING community. Not the New York Times. I thought the story was appropriately respectful. If you're relying on The Escapist for your news, other than gaming news that is, you'll never be satisfied.
If they wish to write an article about how the media treats situations like this, and the way it affects video games, well, go ahead. That's great. That's well within reason, and it is in no way disrespectful to the family of the deceased. But if you intend to write a half-ass whiny **** fest about how unfair gamers are treated then you need to take down the picture of the dead girl. You don't care about her. You just care about how the coverage of her death affects your favorite passtime. Which is fucking disgusting.
 

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This is why I hate most news outlets. They're not out to actually deliver the factual story to people they're out to see how outrageous and false they can make a story before the public no longer reacts to it.
This is why I love living in the UK.
BBC news is always attempting to be completely impartial.

I feel sorry for those who believe in such nonsense; I mean the whole "dreamed about killing someone ever since he was young." thing makes it pretty clear WoW wasn't to blame.

C'mon people be serious for a change.
 

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Those murdering jerks should be beaten with a truncheon and drowned in ammonia!

And the idiots who blamed the video games should be stabbed with a spoon and drowned in fire. Why stabbed with a spoon and drowned in fire instead of water? Because, in this order, IT'S DULL and YOU DON'T DROWN YOU BURN TO DEATH SLOWLY IN IT, you fools, IT WILL HURT MORE. It's all part of this extensive process... [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjCjgjk9n0o]
 

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I wouldnt be surprised if either the murder was fake or planned in an effort to again give radicals a reason to ban or restrict video games. Seriously this pointing of fingers is really getting out of hand.
 

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OANST said:
sir.rutthed said:
Dude, it's a GAMING community. Not the New York Times. I thought the story was appropriately respectful. If you're relying on The Escapist for your news, other than gaming news that is, you'll never be satisfied.
If they wish to write an article about how the media treats situations like this, and the way it affects video games, well, go ahead. That's great. That's well within reason, and it is in no way disrespectful to the family of the deceased. But if you intend to write a half-ass whiny **** fest about how unfair gamers are treated then you need to take down the picture of the dead girl. You don't care about her. You just care about how the coverage of her death affects your favorite passtime. Which is fucking disgusting.

The thing is, the article isn't really about the fact that they killed her. Its about that they discussed it over World of Warcraft.

If you want sympathy about the murder go read a news website, not a gaming one.
 

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Numachuka said:
The thing is, the article isn't really about the fact that they killed her. Its about that they discussed it over World of Warcraft.

If you want sympathy about the murder go read a news website, not a gaming one.
Then they should write it that way, which was the entire point of what I said.
 

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OANST said:
sir.rutthed said:
Dude, it's a GAMING community. Not the New York Times. I thought the story was appropriately respectful. If you're relying on The Escapist for your news, other than gaming news that is, you'll never be satisfied.
If they wish to write an article about how the media treats situations like this, and the way it affects video games, well, go ahead. That's great. That's well within reason, and it is in no way disrespectful to the family of the deceased. But if you intend to write a half-ass whiny **** fest about how unfair gamers are treated then you need to take down the picture of the dead girl. You don't care about her. You just care about how the coverage of her death affects your favorite passtime. Which is fucking disgusting.
Um, the article reads to me like it is precisely about "how the media treats situations like this". Talking about gaming with that as the overall idea is inevitable. On that note, the article is about how gaming had nothing to do with the girl's death, which is far more fair than anything you'll probably read from the mainstream media. On a gaming website, the focus will be on gaming. Always. Personally, I think the Escapist is doing a much better job covering this than the news outlets mentioned in the story. At least we're not using her death to further a political agenda.
 

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OANST said:
Numachuka said:
The thing is, the article isn't really about the fact that they killed her. Its about that they discussed it over World of Warcraft.

If you want sympathy about the murder go read a news website, not a gaming one.
Then they should write it that way, which was the entire point of what I said.
To me it looks like he did. The first bit was just to tell people who didn't know about what happened . The rest was about how they were blaming a game for it.
 

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Why would you kill someone because of playing WoW?

I mean honestly, play Postal and than dust off your shovel.
 

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A psycho will always be a psycho. Obviously if the little bastard "dreamed of killing someone since he was young" he was pretty messed up. Absolutely nothing to do with WoW other than confessing to the crime.
Hope they like getting r@ped, cuz they'll get enough of it in prison.
 

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I live in BC and I heard about the rape and murder a while back, and am I amazed at this article. I actually sent a long email to CTV about it, for it was terrible for them to do such a thing. Make a bad situation go to worse. Everyone knows the two kids didn't have their heads screwed on straight. CTV was a great channel....till this.
 

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Showing a picture of the girl belies everything that you're saying. Also, even if it's true that the article is respectful, it's still poorly written. The argument that it had nothing to do with video games basically boiled down to "Nuh-uh".
 
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12 million people play World of Warcraft. There are probably billions of gamers around the world.

Gee, it makes you think that if the line between reality and fantasy was really that blurred then maybe there would be a few more murders directly (or even circumstancially) linked to videogames than say, alcohol abuse, psychosis, sociopathy...

Oh I'm sorry, we were on a high horse here weren't we.

If the line between reality and fantasy blurs that easily, more people would kill. You have to be a messed up psycho before the thought enters your head that it might be a good idea. You didn't see people condemning all book because 'Catcher in the Rye' told Mark Chapman to shoot John Lennon, or the mass banning of all popular music because a serial killer liked 'Helter Skelter.' Videogames are just another form of media.
 

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It's so absurd to blame WoW, the violence in it is mild at best. Hell, lord of the rings is more violent than WoW, have those kids seen it? Why not blame that.
 

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I have to wonder what prompted him to "dream about killing someone" since he was little. Yes, he clearly is a sociopath and not a normal person, however, there still must have been something(s) that got him on that track. Could have been games when he was young, but it also could have been books or movies or TV or simply reading news articles about murders - or all of the above.
Therefore, it's stupid to say that a game on it's own makes someone a killer.
 

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To begin, the act of these two boys, is both (a)horrid and (b)an unreasonable response to the lead/rejection.
No offense to women, but they do that ... A LOT!

The fact that these two teenage boys were too immature to go on living their lives, and totally ousted that which happened is ... well ... terrible.

The fact that the media decided to link this to violence and video games is also ridiculous. The only connecting in any way shape or form is because of the way admitted to it. And if anything it seemed like they were slightly remorseful because of it.
 

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OANST said:
If they wish to write an article about how the media treats situations like this, and the way it affects video games, well, go ahead. That's great. That's well within reason, and it is in no way disrespectful to the family of the deceased. But if you intend to write a half-ass whiny **** fest about how unfair gamers are treated then you need to take down the picture of the dead girl. You don't care about her. You just care about how the coverage of her death affects your favorite passtime. Which is fucking disgusting.
The picture of the girl is used to put her as the human here, its a subconscious thing, its to celebrate who she is not to disrespect her, having a picture of WOW or the Killers would be the disrespectful thing to do.

I'd like you to re read the article, because we seem to be reading to very different stories here, because there is only one sentence dedicated to what your saying there, the rest merely details the tools used and the abhorrent nature of this act of violence this poor girl.

Because the article is doesn't mean its disrespectful to the poor girl, If Mr Andy Chalk had 3 to 4 pages to dedicate I'm sure he would, it would probably alleviate most of your fears.