Killers Confess in World of Warcraft

[OANST]

The picture of the girl is used to put her as the human here, its a subconscious thing, its to celebrate who she is not to disrespect her, having a picture of WOW or the Killers would be the disrespectful thing to do.

I'd like you to re read the article, because we seem to be reading to very different stories here, because there is only one sentence dedicated to what your saying there, the rest merely details the tools used and the abhorrent nature of this act of violence this poor girl.

Because the article is doesn't mean its disrespectful to the poor girl, If Mr Andy Chalk had 3 to 4 pages to dedicate I'm sure he would, it would probably alleviate most of your fears.

Reading it again just makes me more disgusted than I was before. You people are doing the exact same thing that those who you are fighting against are. You're using the horrible death of a child to further your own agenda. I mean, do you think that people actually buy this garbage that "video games did it"? They don't. But every time someone in the media makes a comment about it, you all get yourselves up into a lather, and screech to the heavens.

Firstly, unless you're going to write an intelligent, well thought out rebuttal then you shouldn't write anything at all. "No, it didn't" is not an argument. Secondly, get the fucking picture of the dead girl down from there. If she isn't what the article is about, then you need to take it down. Seriously.

 

[Yureina]

I hate hearing stuff like this... it always puts me in a depressed mood. I guess I should be fortunate that this sort of tragedy has not been brought into my life in any form for a few years.

I hope the family is ok.

 

[RelexCryo]

The only thing I blame WoW for is claiming to be a role playing game yet having no real immersion. And for having horrible imbalance between PvPers and PvErs, as you had to spend a ludicrous amount of time in PvE to dominate PvP back when I left. And class imbalances, a broken economy, annoying gameplay where you played the same dungeon 300 times in a row...

You know what, I just flat out hate WoW. But I still think blaming them for anything other than sucking is ludicrous. At any rate, I guess this shows that the United States is not the only country to give life without parole sentences to minors. Sheesh.

 

[WhiteTigerShiro]

Aside from the fact that both boys enjoyed World of Warcraft, which is probably one of the most normal things about them, there's absolutely no gaming connection at all, yet it still somehow rises to the surface as a causative factor.

Reminds me of an old Penny Arcade [http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/4/12/]. Seems that same logic applied to this case, sadly, just like with the infamous Columbine shooting. Heck, if the kids had confessed over MSN instead of WoW I'll bet the media never would have even caught wind that they were both gamers.

 

[OANST]

To be a bit more clear, I do not believe that the author is being purposely malicious. I do, however, strongly believe that reducing the life and death of a young girl to a talking point is disrespectful regardless of intent, or whether or not you are right. If this site didn't constantly make claims to journalistic integrity it would be a different story, but they do. And they are a long ways off from being the professional news (gaming or otherwise) outlet they hope to be. Articles such as this are part of the problem.

On the other hand, there are a lot of things that are done right, here. There's enough good that I keep returning.

 

[Rofl-Mayo]

That is messed up is all I can say.

 

[Andy Chalk]

Reading it again just makes me more disgusted than I was before.

I'm not sure what your problem is here. What's so difficult about commenting on irrational media hysteria while at the same time putting a human face on an unspeakably tragic crime committed by a couple of psychopathic morons?

 

[BlueberryMUNCH]

Bloody hell, what's the actual point in blaming World of Warcraft? Like, seriously?

If there's TWELVE. MILLION players, you'd think that if it really inspired violence, there would be a bloody world war or something!

It's pathetic and heartless to blame the game over her death, and then to have the nerve to hold the videogame violence bullsh*t over the death of this poor girl. It's ridiculous!

My deepest condolences to the girls family, and it's truly tragic. I hope neither of these guys ever make it out of jail, and I hope the press gets their bloody act together.

Also, Oanst or whatever his name was, should really just get out of here. It's an extremely sad story, and this really isn't the right place to start being a troll, okay? Don't kick up a fuss, you obviously just want to start something instead of pay your respects to the girl like everyone else here is.
Your the disgusting one here, mate.

 

[Andy Chalk]

To be a bit more clear

And I just noticed that your profile lists your occupation as "rapist," your interests as "rape" and your bio as "raper."

I think we're done here.

 

[OANST]

Reading it again just makes me more disgusted than I was before.

I'm not sure what your problem is here. What's so difficult about commenting on irrational media hysteria while at the same time putting a human face on an unspeakably tragic crime committed by a couple of psychopathic morons?

You should totally write an article about that, because this isn't it. Where's the media hysteria? You don't mean to tell me that a few nonsensical statements is tantamount to hysteria, do you? And I don't object to you putting a human face on a horrible tragedy. I object to you putting a human face on your disdain for media blaming video games for tragedy. Because that's what your article is about. It's not about her death.

 

[WhiteTigerShiro]

I mean, do you think that people actually buy this garbage that "video games did it"? They don't.

There's a major case going-on in the Supreme Court that wants to have a word with you. Crap like that is precisely why we're worried: people DO believe that shit. Maybe it isn't the majority of people, but it at this point it takes less than .0001% of the US population believing it to make a drastic and likely crippling change to the gaming industry. That's a pretty drastic minority, and yet that's all it could take to potentially destroy the entire industry. Articles like the CTV one don't help that.

Also man, calm down a little. Take a deep breath, count to ten, all that jazz. I can understand if you feel that the article is somehow being disrespectful, but do you honestly think that raising a stink like this is any better?

 

[TraderJimmy]

For the record, writing an article about the rape and murder of a young girl, and then spending half of it crying about how one news outlet tried to lay the blame on video games is just as disrespectful, and downright stupid as the news outlet in question. Have some fucking class.

Thank you. +20.

I don't mind that one or two of these kinds of articles are upset about the links. But EVERY SINGLE ARTICLE about game-related murders or whatnot appears to be derailed into complaining about how VERY BADLY gamers are treated by the mainstream media.

That goes in a separate article, on its own. "Killers Confess in WoW" is one article. "Mainstream Media have Bias against Games" is an entirely different article. One that I am quite frankly bored of, because you are preaching to the choir.

 

[Phyroxis]

Next story: Chef kills dinner guest with kitchen knife: Culinary school to blame.

 

[DocBalance]

To be a bit more clear

And I just noticed that your profile lists your occupation as "rapist," your interests as "rape" and your bio as "raper."

I think we're done here.

I'm glad that I'm not the only one who saw that.

Obvious troll is obvious, guys. He's just doing it a little better than some. Don't feed.

 

[WhiteTigerShiro]

For the record, writing an article about the rape and murder of a young girl, and then spending half of it crying about how one news outlet tried to lay the blame on video games is just as disrespectful, and downright stupid as the news outlet in question. Have some fucking class.

Thank you. +20.

I don't mind that one or two of these kinds of articles are upset about the links. But EVERY SINGLE ARTICLE is derailed into complaining about how VERY BADLY gamers are treated by the mainstream media.

That goes in a separate article, on its own. "Killers Confess in WoW" is one article. "Mainstream Media have Bias against Games" is an entirely different article. One that I am quite frankly bored of, because you are preaching to the choir.

Firstly, don't encourage the troll.

Secondly, this isn't about "preaching to the choir". It's about educating the choir to a news source that said choir might want to start avoiding. With gaming becoming more and more prevalent, a news media needs to be careful about demonizing what will very quickly become their target audience. If we keep quiet about news sources that demonize gaming (especially when there's no evidence to support said demonizing), then how will we know when a new source should be avoided?

 

[Rakkana]

FFS! Why is the world getting stupider as the days go past. This is the information age FFS!

BAH!

I am unsure of what the current age of humanity has to do with our supposed "intelligence" as a species, but I know that people will believe what they want over and above what may truly be right (or even factually correct) and good. Also, it helps to remember that media outlets throughout the entire history of Man have always, ALWAYS sensationalized their work to bring greater attention to it.

Now, because the event in question is so auspicous [sarcasm; I truly hope her family is well and that many are praying for them] I'm going to break out an old favorite for just this occasion: "A person is smart; "people" are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it. 1500 years ago, everybody knew that the Earth was the center of the universe. 500 years ago, everybody knew that the Earth was flat. And 15 minutes ago, you knew that people were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow."

Please stop trying to sound superior. It's incredibly irritating. (This sentence was originally full of curses. I cut it down for your benefit.)

What I said makes sense to anyone who houses the incredible power of common sense.

(I've cut out any further comment because I realized I was at the risk of becoming a hypocrite.)

 

[SnootyEnglishman]

Oh Ignorance of culture by Journalists. Will they ever cease to amaze me with their stupidity.

 

[AKmontalvo]

The picture of the girl is used to put her as the human here, its a subconscious thing, its to celebrate who she is not to disrespect her, having a picture of WOW or the Killers would be the disrespectful thing to do.

I'd like you to re read the article, because we seem to be reading to very different stories here, because there is only one sentence dedicated to what your saying there, the rest merely details the tools used and the abhorrent nature of this act of violence this poor girl.

Because the article is doesn't mean its disrespectful to the poor girl, If Mr Andy Chalk had 3 to 4 pages to dedicate I'm sure he would, it would probably alleviate most of your fears.

Reading it again just makes me more disgusted than I was before. You people are doing the exact same thing that those who you are fighting against are. You're using the horrible death of a child to further your own agenda. I mean, do you think that people actually buy this garbage that "video games did it"? They don't. But every time someone in the media makes a comment about it, you all get yourselves up into a lather, and screech to the heavens.

Firstly, unless you're going to write an intelligent, well thought out rebuttal then you shouldn't write anything at all. "No, it didn't" is not an argument. Secondly, get the fucking picture of the dead girl down from there. If she isn't what the article is about, then you need to take it down. Seriously.

If it is possible to take out the picture after the post has been made im sure it couldnt hurt, ud pobably hav to try and message the original poster or something, but i think its important to remember i dont think he was trying to be disrespectful so id present it to him as a concerned member not a zealot (for the record i do agree with your position so 'zealot' wasnt intended to be an insult)

 

[OANST]

Thank you. +20.

I don't mind that one or two of these kinds of articles are upset about the links. But EVERY SINGLE ARTICLE about game-related murders or whatnot appears to be derailed into complaining about how VERY BADLY gamers are treated by the mainstream media.

That goes in a separate article, on its own. "Killers Confess in WoW" is one article. "Mainstream Media have Bias against Games" is an entirely different article. One that I am quite frankly bored of, because you are preaching to the choir.

Have you noticed that they bring it up even when no one actually blames video games? There was an article here a while ago where a kid killed a parent because they wouldn't let him play his playstation. No media outlet made a denouncement of video games, but the person who wrote the article still went into a tirade about games being blamed. It was ridiculous.