Leaked Modern Warfare 2 Opening Will Be Controversial

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Here's what I don't think people get. You don't have to shoot the innocent people if you don't want to. If you notice your "team" will do everything for you. So if you don't want to go through doing that part wait till the Swat teams show up and then it's back to the way it was and you can forget about the first half!
 

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I don't really see the issue. Myself (and many, many others) have gunned down countless unarmed, completely innocent civilians in games like GTA4. I know those games catch their fair share of bitching and controversy too but it's nothing new. Mabye because its for a cause (presumably)? Is playing mass murdering psychotic any better than playing a mass murdering terrorist?
 

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jojoemon said:
Terramax said:
If it is true, Infinity Ward will have no-one to blame but themselves when some crazy American does shoot up a shopping mall and the media starts pointing the finger at them.
Couldn't they just blame the crazy American? And why an American anyway, what's up with that? Other countries have in fact spawned crazy people.
1.) They could blame the crazy American. But that won't sell as many papers.
2.) Stuff like this is expected in the US. When it happens in other countries, it isn't.

antipunt said:
Maybe, actually. But even so, wouldn't that mean people would just walk around without shooting anyone?
How many people feel bad killing innocent passer-bys in GTA? Lets face it; the gamer is more often than not likely to shoot the innocents anyway. After all, you've bought a game where the emphasis is on killing people. Whether terrorists, aliens, animals, innocents, soldiers- when it boils down to it, the fact that you're playing a game where you're ripping someone's body to shreds without any attempt of peaceful negotiations is, arguably, immoral by any standards.
 

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Oh shit, oh shit, ohhhhh shitttttttttttttttttttttt.

This is gonna be awesome! This game is my NEW GOD. (Okay...My God, but still, point stands. xD)

Man, I WISH this wasn't coming out on my girlfriends b-day, GOD, IT'S GONNA BE SO GOOD.

(As you can tell, I love controversy ingames!)
 

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ok, fighting in D.C? Yeah, not much of a controversy in that in my opinion, but frankly, I have a feeling Infinity Ward have taken it too far this time... sure, its still going to be a great game, but IW are risking getting they're game banned in a lot of places, particularly ultra-sensitive America.
We are allowes GTA, so this game will slide as well, I'm sure.
 

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I can see the stories now:

"Spoiled Rotten Nine year old steals Daddy's gun and shoots hundreds of people in an airport."
 

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Diga1994 said:
Russian_Assassin said:
A game where I play a bad guy that kills innocent people? How refreshing! I sure have never seen or played a game like that before! (GTA, Prototype, Oblivion, Fallout 3, Assassin's Creed, The Sims 3 Saint's Row, God Of War and a gazillion other games) "Angry person is angry >:mad:"
To be fair though, in most of those games you mentioned, it was an option to be a bad person and to kill innocents. It's your choice.

By the looks of this though, you have to kill them, or at the very least, watch innocent people die then fight your way out through the police/SWAT/whatever. This'll will be alot further outside people's comfort zones, even to some experienced gamers, like me, who's played all of those games you mentioned.

This doesn't necessarily mean that this level is an "awful" thing. It's very striking and I think it's a brave move by Infinity Ward (if it's real). But it will be a very different experience from those other games.
i'd be okay with it if you could actually shoot your 'team' mates in that bit, if not...then i simply don't think i'd WANT TO PLAY IT.
And i though SP would be fun, but this seems a bit too far for me.
AND it looks like a 1up on treyarch's Russian campaign bit of shooting the wounded nazis, but those were...nazis, its fine to slaughter them, but civvies...not so much, especially when your teased with control over the situation.
 

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Wow, I can't believe everyone is so up in arms about this. It's a video-game, and while this part looks boring (the gameplay, anyhow), I can see that they're trying to tell a story. My guess is you're a CIA agent (or, more likely, a terrorist turned good) who is infiltrating the group, they find out and play along; until the end, when they kill you and the SWAT team comes to try and save you. You probably don't even have to fire a single bullet if you don't want to.

EDIT: Besides, none of this would ever be possible in real life, so little bobby isn't going to go crazy and take his daddy's M249 for a spin through the airport.
 

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CantFaketheFunk said:
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I'm...not really sure what to say to this. I mean, of course Infinity Ward and indeed any video game developer should be allowed to put whatever they want into their video game, as book and movie writers may. But I would say this is far over the line. I mean...it's appalling. Massacring innocent civilians is a horrible thing and something I honestly don't want to play out. Why Infinity Ward would decide to make such an event into a playable mission is beyond me.

Of course, that is assuming this is real and not a hoax. I think it very well may be. I can't imagine why a mainstream developer like Infinity Ward would feel compelled to include such a thing into their game, especially one that is highly popular, will be highly publicized, and will be played by many children. It's far different from a relatively niche game like Manhunt.

Considering the widespread criticism this mission would receive, and how much it would hurt IW, I think there's a high chance that this is a joke. I sort of hope it is. If it is, I would think we should get confirmation from IW soon enough. How long has this video been circulating?
ElephantGuts said:
I'm...not really sure what to say to this. I mean, of course Infinity Ward and indeed any video game developer should be allowed to put whatever they want into their video game, as book and movie writers may. But I would say this is far over the line. I mean...it's appalling. Massacring innocent civilians is a horrible thing and something I honestly don't want to play out. Why Infinity Ward would decide to make such an event into a playable mission is beyond me.

Of course, that is assuming this is real and not a hoax. I think it very well may be. I can't imagine why a mainstream developer like Infinity Ward would feel compelled to include such a thing into their game, especially one that is highly popular, will be highly publicized, and will be played by many children. It's far different from a relatively niche game like Manhunt.

Considering the widespread criticism this mission would receive, and how much it would hurt IW, I think there's a high chance that this is a joke. I sort of hope it is. If it is, I would think we should get confirmation from IW soon enough. How long has this video been circulating?
Considering that some of the mirrors have apparently been taken down - which one would assume would be possible in the event of a copyright breach, but not "some guy's mod of the game," this does lend a bit more weight to the idea that it's real.
Plus John, notice how it fits PERFECTLY with thee scene in the new trailer, and the CGI FIRST trailer.

Do you see the dots?
 

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This is going to get a lot of flack, but I doubt anyone will actuallyvdo anything. At least in te U.S., games rarely get banned. Sure, a lot of people will be pissed, but I highly doubt anyone will do anything than just *****. I've done a lot worse in GTA and Saints Row.
 

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Personally, I think it's a nice addition to a game based on modern warfare. It takes it from being a generic game where you kill the baddies, to a game which really makes you think "Christ, this can actually be real.." Hopefully it'll stop a few kids getting this game as well, if this hits news networks, which it most probably will, then a few parents will be canceling their' child's pre-order pretty sharpish. But yeah, I personally thinks it's good, very chilling and nasty way to start a game, and that's how a game about war should be.. Chilling and nasty.
 

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I am so getting this game, particularly before it gets banned or censored. While horrible, it's quite refreshing to play from the villains POV, particularly in such a graphic manner. Not the rather tame "He's a bad guy but only fights other bad guys" like HALO 2 did or a bad guy who never actually sees or participates in the worst his side engages in, so he can feel justified by his actions, but a no shit evil bad guy. The C&C and warcraft series have played with this, particularly in missions where you waste civilians(though the "Good" forces in the Generals series could cause a surprisingly huge amount of collateral damage).

If it's pulled off well, of course. If it's not, it'll just be a really disturbing and ill conceived level that won't justify the critical outrage.
 

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rknight718 said:
Just speaking from the other side of the fence, but while this could indeed be the opening maybe you don't have any control? Like the car scene in the beginning of COD:MW? Instead of just looking around, you're in the body of a terrorist and you have to watch the horrible acts firsthand. I know it looks like someone is controlling the character but that COULD be pre-recorded. Just a thought.
That actually is a good thought but the character who u are playing as dies and respawns at one point in the video, and he has a compas and I cant remember what its called( the health meter and game time, theres a word for it I know.) are showing.

OT: its definately real but it looks like they might be forced to take it out of the game. I'm actually ashamed that I think it's pretty cool, seeing how Im american.
 

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My hats off to IW. This just elevates what a game can do in storytelling. It's by far one of the most morally disturbing sequences I've seen in a game. No, scratch that. It is the most disturbing sequence I've seen in a video game. That's because this kind of thing that we all fear. The kind of thing that is the basis for this modern war on terror. Plus, it isn't like this kind of thing hasn't happened. Remember that huge shootout that happened in India last year where dozens of people were gunned down? It is supposed to elicit a strong emotional response against the antagonists of the story. Stories in games, for the most part, are pretty generic and only serve as an excuse to further the game along. But then you get a game like MW2 that just completely redefines what a story can do in a video game.