Lionsgate Waging a Legal War Over Expendables 3 Internet Leak
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"...Recover all copies of the stolen film or any portion thereof they have distributed"...
Good luck with that is all I'm going to say. I don't begrudge them for filing suit over a movie being available before it even came out, especially a crap one they spent a lot of money on, but it'll take an act of god to remove every single file in existence out there. Good luck getting every single copy of the file off of each computer it's sitting on is all I'm saying.
I think Lionsgate probably has more justification for filing suit than a lot of other similar actions, but they're fighting a losing battle. This won't put a dent in the number of downloads, indeed on the contrary there's a good chance that confirming this is a real copy of the film will result in another demonstration of the Streisand effect and make it even easier to acquire.
Good luck with that is all I'm going to say. I don't begrudge them for filing suit over a movie being available before it even came out, especially a crap one they spent a lot of money on, but it'll take an act of god to remove every single file in existence out there. Good luck getting every single copy of the file off of each computer it's sitting on is all I'm saying.
I think Lionsgate probably has more justification for filing suit than a lot of other similar actions, but they're fighting a losing battle. This won't put a dent in the number of downloads, indeed on the contrary there's a good chance that confirming this is a real copy of the film will result in another demonstration of the Streisand effect and make it even easier to acquire.
And posting the fact the leak happened all over sites like this is really going to reduce the demand now.
Oh sweet it comes out on the weekend I'm taking off for my birthday, I know what I'm doing on Friday 
. That said this reeeeaaallllyyy isn't a movie I would watch on a computer or a home theater system the first time (even if it is a bad ass set up). This is something you watch at the movies and go FUCK YEAH. Anyway, I wish them luck on getting those copies back, won't happen though .
. That said this reeeeaaallllyyy isn't a movie I would watch on a computer or a home theater system the first time (even if it is a bad ass set up). This is something you watch at the movies and go FUCK YEAH. Anyway, I wish them luck on getting those copies back, won't happen though .Do you ever wonder, when you hear news like this, if maybe the studio leaked it on purpose? Like, maybe they realized that their movie sucked, at least compared to the budget they blew on it, so they figure they'll need an excuse to explain to their shareholders why their film won't make its money back. Leaking a copy of a bad film not only gives them a good excuse but also opens up the potential for lawsuits (which, if they can get one to stick against a deep-pocketed ISP, could be quite lucrative), potentially recouping all the money that their film wasted.
I mean, it's not terribly likely, and if their movie is actually good it becomes exceedingly less so, but without having seen the first two, I'm guessing that, as is common with third films in a series, this movie will not be a stellar example of its craft -- and given the credits list, I bet the cast didn't come cheap.
I mean, it's not terribly likely, and if their movie is actually good it becomes exceedingly less so, but without having seen the first two, I'm guessing that, as is common with third films in a series, this movie will not be a stellar example of its craft -- and given the credits list, I bet the cast didn't come cheap.
Given how well the last two movies did, you'd think they'd be happy with people at least watching the third.
You know, I actually thought this as well. Then I remembered he was the original Beast in the X-men movies.RJ 17 said:
then I still thought he wasn't a great fit but I still think it's badass that he's gonna be killing people with his doctor powers.
Oh I agree, I actually thought he was a brilliant choice to play The Beast as he really has the perfect look for it and can very easily play the part of a sophisticated intellectual. Like I said, though, he's not really the first name that comes to mind when I think of over-the-top 80's/Early 90's Action Movies. The type of movies where the hero literally just stands in one spot, shooting from left to right and mowing down an entire line of guys with machine guns shooting at him...all while not even getting a scratch.TristanBelmont said:
Well said.Falterfire said:
I honestly find it a little mystifying. I think there are legitimate arguments for why copyright infringement is the wrong thing to do, but when I see people equate infringement with theft I cant help but feel like its almost a admission of defeat. The message it sends, at least to me, is that people consider that it has to be theft in order to be a bad thing - or on the flip side, that if it isnt specifically theft then its ok.
Misrepresenting the actual act and trying to equate it with a somewhat stronger illegal act sends the message that the people using those arguments dont in fact believe their own position. Infringing copyright is immoral on its own - it doesnt need to be made into something its not for that to be true.
Maybe he has a gun in his briefcase. Maybe he's been hiding the action hero side of himself this whole time. MAYBE HE'S THE TRUE EXPENDABLERJ 17 said:
I understood that that is what they think, but I was under the impression that litigation is a reactionary method of reclaiming actual damages, not a method of protection for suing does nothing to actually prevent any such copyright infringement. Next time you want to argue, try fucking reading what someone has said.weirdee said:
That line there just proves how far distanced from reality these film companies are. Yeah. Right. Revoke replicated information distributed across computers all over the world.
Welcome to the third millennium!
It sucks that their material was leaked, but smacking their faces against the Internets is just going to make them look bad.
I doubt this. For starters, despite being bad, The Expendables 1 and 2 both made zillions of dollars. Chances are good that this one will also turn a profit and make a zillion dollars. If they need a scapegoat they already have an excuse in its cast list, they spent too much on celebrities and nothing on making a good movie. Not like they'll need it probably, Expendables 1 and 2 brought in 3 times their hundred million budget in sales. Additionally a lawsuit probably isn't going to get back a hundred million dollars from a gaggle of anonymous people, so recouping losses is unlikely.The_Great_Galendo said:
Basically Lionsgate had no reason to leak their own movie. A product being leaked before its official launch is about the only piracy I think might actually harm sales in a real way, and considering that Lionsgate sees all piracy as unilaterally evil I can only imagine how satanic they find pre-launch leaks.
