LoadingReadyRun: Scientist's Rebuttal to ICP

[The Fork of Truth]

That's one of the best things LRR has done for a while now.

 

[krakbracket]

ICP: "U don't have to be high to look at the sky..."

but it sure does help

 

[Tetranitrophenol]

Freaking awesome!

 

[Jesus Phish]

Err... Seen much funnier stuff about the ICP video than this thing.

http://www.cracked.com/blog/learn-your-motherfuckin-science-with-the-icp/

That for instance.

 

[Megido]

Meh...when I heard the song was rap I turned it off in disgust.

Yay for closed-mindedness!

Not at all. I just hate rap. It is AWFUL and stands for:

R.ejects
A.ttempting
P.oetry

LOL!!!!!!!!!

Rap has a much deeper, intricate history than all of the commercialized b.s. that gets cranked out, and held up on a pedestal today would have you belive. It is also very closely tied with African American culture, so thanks for the indirect racism, pal.

 

[scw55]

actually giraffes have long necks to combat other males the leaves on trees is just a plus

When I saw "giraffes" and "combat", I immediately thought about giraffes going into battle, LOTR-style.

You mean the hordes of Modor riding into battle to eradicate the last of the Humans... on Giraffes?

I suppose it would give Legolas alot more of a challenge and amusement.

 

[Digikid]

Meh...when I heard the song was rap I turned it off in disgust.

Yay for closed-mindedness!

Not at all. I just hate rap. It is AWFUL and stands for:

R.ejects
A.ttempting
P.oetry

LOL!!!!!!!!!

Rap has a much deeper, intricate history than all of the commercialized b.s. that gets cranked out, and held up on a pedestal today would have you belive. It is also very closely tied with African American culture, so thanks for the indirect racism, pal.

Take it any way your little brain wants to. I had an opinion and I posted it. Deal with it. It is not racist in any way.

 

[anaphysik]

if you don't get it, you probabaly ought to watch this:

snip

-m

Thanks? I mean, I now have context for the humour, but at the cost of 4 minutes and irreparable damage to my poor (unfortunate) ears.

Honestly, I went into this wondering what you guys had against Internet Cache Protocol...

 

[RoyalWelsh]

A side splittingly hilarious video. Nice one. :'D

 

[thimblyjoe]

Meh...when I heard the song was rap I turned it off in disgust.

Yay for closed-mindedness!

Not at all. I just hate rap. It is AWFUL and stands for:

R.ejects
A.ttempting
P.oetry

LOL!!!!!!!!!

Rap has a much deeper, intricate history than all of the commercialized b.s. that gets cranked out, and held up on a pedestal today would have you belive. It is also very closely tied with African American culture, so thanks for the indirect racism, pal.

You know... a lot of people dislike rap in its current form. Just because they say they dislike rap doesn't mean that they dislike all African Americans. That's like saying that because you don't like Manischewitz wine (which most jews can't stand) you don't like Jews. It just doesn't hold up to standards of logic.

Yes, rap in its current form is awful. Yes, it has its roots in African American Culture. I find that the closer back to those roots you get, the better the music. Rap, in its current form, is really an insult to those roots in my opinion. Does that mean I hate African Americans? No.

 

[Cosplay Horatio]

I like this song better than the ICP one. I've seen Juggalos that have children...father has the clothes and face paint and his wife and children are easy to point out in a crowd.

 

[Chubbs99]

I don't think it was as good as "I am Paul" but it was still a good video. Some great green screening going on in this video. I would also agree that without having listened to the ICP video the LRR video wasn't as funny as it was suppose to be either. And holy crap that was Graham?? took me till the credits to realize it lol

 

[Coldman42]

Go Science!

 

[Mattteus]

"why would anyone have sex with you? it's a miracle!" best line in it

 

[SHBird]

Was that Kate singing in the chorus? Sounded like her.

 

[Tareth]

I loves the ICP!

 

[rafiqofthemany]

actually giraffes have long necks to combat other males the leaves on trees is just a plus

You have it backwards, giraffes evolved to reach the tops of the trees. Using it to find a mate is just a bonus. This is what Richard Dawkins said on the Colbert Report.

yeah well explain that to my evolution professor, while giraffes sometimes eat leaves from the top of the trees they mainly eat plants closer to the ground including during the dry season when leaves are harder to come by, on the other hand males who win in combat are more likely to mate and the male with the longer neck is more likely to win

I don't know what's funnier, the fact that you got offended that I referenced someone extremely knowledgeable on the subject to disprove you, or the fact that you're suggesting giraffes can only eat from one food source. If it'll help unbunch your panties, let's just say it came from multiple sources.

i didn't say that they only eat from one source they do eat high leaves but not as often as lower ones, and just cause one scientist says something doesn't make it right, most modern scientist hold the neck as a weapon viewpoint

Actually, the majority of modern scientists hold the view which Dawkins expressed: multiple pressures resulted in the evolution of the giraffe's neck.

Further, the fact that they are able to eat the leaves at the tops of trees doesn't imply that they prefer eating from the tops of the trees, just that they CAN. In times of a food shortage, this is an obvious advantage, but when food is plentiful, they may prefer the taste of the shrubbery lower to the ground.

well yes of course there are multiple pressures at work and the food reach is a plus its just that the main force was mate competition or sexual selection as darwin called if your going to invoke old C D. Its just that when looking at the evolutionary orgin of an adaptation one must make sure to look for the correct answer. while a trait may seem like it developed for a particular reason it is simply a coincidental advantage, the real proven force is mate competition in this situation

The only individuals who tout the theory of sexual selection as the primary reason for the evolution of the giraffe's neck are either creationists or glory-hounds (Simmons et al). All of the research on the subject for the last 100 years has led to this conclusion.

You cannot simply overturn a century of good science with a few biased studies which are based on variable populations (Simmons).

Additionally, the ability to reach new source of nourishment is always a primary evolutionary 'goal.' Since the giraffe's neck is responsible for one of its primary evolutionary advantages, it *cannot* be a primarily sexually-selected trait, as sexually-selected traits are, by definition, of limited use in survival.

1. i like that you cited info but never said were it came from
2. i didn't realize that sexual selection was a view held by creationists you know since they tend to hate all methods of evolution
3. a century of good science didn't involve quite as extensive studies as the sexual selection ones
4. sexual selection trumps natural selection, case in point the peacock

 

[RvLeshrac]

actually giraffes have long necks to combat other males the leaves on trees is just a plus

You have it backwards, giraffes evolved to reach the tops of the trees. Using it to find a mate is just a bonus. This is what Richard Dawkins said on the Colbert Report.

yeah well explain that to my evolution professor, while giraffes sometimes eat leaves from the top of the trees they mainly eat plants closer to the ground including during the dry season when leaves are harder to come by, on the other hand males who win in combat are more likely to mate and the male with the longer neck is more likely to win

I don't know what's funnier, the fact that you got offended that I referenced someone extremely knowledgeable on the subject to disprove you, or the fact that you're suggesting giraffes can only eat from one food source. If it'll help unbunch your panties, let's just say it came from multiple sources.

i didn't say that they only eat from one source they do eat high leaves but not as often as lower ones, and just cause one scientist says something doesn't make it right, most modern scientist hold the neck as a weapon viewpoint

Actually, the majority of modern scientists hold the view which Dawkins expressed: multiple pressures resulted in the evolution of the giraffe's neck.

Further, the fact that they are able to eat the leaves at the tops of trees doesn't imply that they prefer eating from the tops of the trees, just that they CAN. In times of a food shortage, this is an obvious advantage, but when food is plentiful, they may prefer the taste of the shrubbery lower to the ground.

well yes of course there are multiple pressures at work and the food reach is a plus its just that the main force was mate competition or sexual selection as darwin called if your going to invoke old C D. Its just that when looking at the evolutionary orgin of an adaptation one must make sure to look for the correct answer. while a trait may seem like it developed for a particular reason it is simply a coincidental advantage, the real proven force is mate competition in this situation

The only individuals who tout the theory of sexual selection as the primary reason for the evolution of the giraffe's neck are either creationists or glory-hounds (Simmons et al). All of the research on the subject for the last 100 years has led to this conclusion.

You cannot simply overturn a century of good science with a few biased studies which are based on variable populations (Simmons).

Additionally, the ability to reach new source of nourishment is always a primary evolutionary 'goal.' Since the giraffe's neck is responsible for one of its primary evolutionary advantages, it *cannot* be a primarily sexually-selected trait, as sexually-selected traits are, by definition, of limited use in survival.

1. i like that you cited info but never said were it came from
2. i didn't realize that sexual selection was a view held by creationists you know since they tend to hate all methods of evolution
3. a century of good science didn't involve quite as extensive studies as the sexual selection ones
4. sexual selection trumps natural selection, case in point the peacock

1. Not worth addressing, since we're on *the internet*.
2. The view is held by "intelligent design" proponents because it "refutes" a prime example of selective pressure.
3. Mountains of mediocre studies which have consistent, verifiable results trump a few superficially good studies which do not hold up to extended scrutiny.
4. You prove the point when citing the peacock: The peacock's tail feathers are purely decorative, serving no other purpose. Thus, they are a sexually selected trait.

 

[wildpeaks]

Haha, that was spot on (but people won't get why this video is funny unless they see the other one first).

Also, I think this XKCD classic would be appropriate to the matter at hand:

 

[GL2814E]

'There be all manner of science up in this *****'

I am considering making that my new motto.