LulzSec Leader Outed As FBI Rat

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ResonanceSD said:
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What makes you think the rest of anonymous is any different?
What makes you think they aren't? Quick, before they get you as well...Be a shame if anything happened to that health bar.

What makes me think they aren't? Wasn't this guy meant to be the most balls-out anon at the time? If he's the vanguard of the Lulz brigade, and the one most willing to launch attacks, etc, why would others be more courageous?
He is affiliated with Lulz, they don't associate themselves with Anon and Anon doesn't associate with them. I'm not saying you're wrong, but you're confusing the two to be one and the same.
 

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If he cared so much about his kids then he wouldn't have done this whole thing in the first place.

What did Lulzsec actually accomplish? Nothing.
What was their purpose? "Lulz" apparently, which is worthless to me.

All they really ended up doing was giving out thousands and thousands of passwords and email accounts. Funny to some perhaps but I still call it criminal activity.
 

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ResonanceSD said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
ResonanceSD said:
What makes you think the rest of anonymous is any different?
What makes you think they aren't? Quick, before they get you as well...Be a shame if anything happened to that health bar.

What makes me think they aren't? Wasn't this guy meant to be the most balls-out anon at the time? If he's the vanguard of the Lulz brigade, and the one most willing to launch attacks, etc, why would others be more courageous?
There's a reason they split off from Anonymous. What LulzSec did was retarded. Attacking the PSN network and causing it to go down for weeks on end was absolutely stupid. I would have been much more sympathetic had they exposed the weakness in PSN's security, left a .txt file on the servers explaining it as such, and then release a statement on what they did to the public. Instead they stole personal info.

I'll be the first to admit Lulzsec got what was coming to them.
 

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1: Someones gonna wake up with his throat cut. ^.^
2: "a law enforcement official said. "That's how we got him."" Even though they are technically the good guys. That quote makes him sound like a right ****.

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Good luck with that.

Now the real war will begin.
My first thought exactly. Something tells me that dude has no idea how such "groups" work.
 

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There's a reason they split off from Anonymous. What LulzSec did was retarded. Attacking the PSN network and causing it to go down for weeks on end was absolutely stupid.
I'll be the first to admit Lulzsec got what was coming to them.

Gamers are likely to support us as they know more about what we're fighting for! Quick! Knock off the PSN! That'll get them onside!
 
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Kids, they fucking ruin everything. Rats also always get fucked over, it's a rule that they get what comes to them eventually and there is very little wrath like Anonymous. Whether you think it's effective or devastating wrath is irrelevant, it's pretty unique.
 

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LulzSec isn't Anonymous who has no head to cut off, so I'm not going to be surprised if this really is the end for them. I feel sorry for this guy though, he was stupid and didn't know what he was getting into, or did he think he couldn't be caught?
Either way he should not have bet anything he wasn't willing to lose.
 

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SteelStallion said:
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This is the only thing I don't like. Threatening to leave his children without a father or as orphans is a pretty terrible thing to do.
If you can't do the time, etc.
...then punish the children.
What do you recommend?
Someone broke a bunch laws, oh wait he's got kids, give him a pass.
Yea, it sucks those kids had a bad dad. Shit happens sometimes.
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So all that bollocks about teh threedums and the snivelling worm still ends up turning out a grass? Pfft, hope he doesn't plan on keeping those kneecaps.
What's the saying? Snitches get stitches?
You can't give someone stitches over the internet, so I think it's fair to say he's pretty safe from any computer geek attacks. Especially since he's working closely with the FBI.
 

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My only hope is that LulzSec don't harrass the guy's family now. In the end, the guy was forced into talking, and it's not the fault of his partner and kids.

I'm going to optimistically hope they have enough sense to leave them be.
 

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Glerken said:
SteelStallion said:
Andy Chalk said:
Silvianoshei said:
This is the only thing I don't like. Threatening to leave his children without a father or as orphans is a pretty terrible thing to do.
If you can't do the time, etc.
...then punish the children.
What do you recommend?
Someone broke a bunch laws, oh wait he's got kids, give him a pass.
Yea, it sucks those kids had a bad dad. Shit happens sometimes.
Kids. Not an effective defence mechanism.



Knight Templar said:
LulzSec isn't Anonymous who has no head to cut off, so I'm not going to be surprised if this really is the end for them. ... he was stupid and didn't know what he was getting into, or did he think he couldn't be caught?
Either way he should not have bet anything he wasn't willing to lose.
Most of this. However, I'm pretty sure that he knew exactly what he was getting into. One slip up was all it took to expose him.


SenseOfTumour said:
My only hope is that LulzSec don't harrass the guy's family now. In the end, the guy was forced into talking, and it's not the fault of his partner and kids.

I'm going to optimistically hope they have enough sense to leave them be.

Dude, this is the internet. Remember all the hate with ocean marketing? People threatened his family, that was on a colossally smaller scale than this.
 

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Silvianoshei said:
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Monsegur, described by FoxNews.com [http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/03/06/hacking-group-lulzsec-swept-up-by-law-enforcement/#ixzz1oLiLkGhI] as an "unemployed, 28-year-old father of two," apparently flipped on the group in order to avoid being separated from his children. "It was because of his kids. He didn't want to go away to prison and leave them," a law enforcement official said. "That's how we got him."
This is the only thing I don't like. Threatening to leave his children without a father or as orphans is a pretty terrible thing to do.

Also want to point out that his name is freaking awesome.
It's not terrible. He is a fucking felon. Giving him a chance to be with his children is an incredibly benevolent thing to do, not the other way around.
 

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It's not terrible. He is a fucking felon. Giving him a chance to be with his children is an incredibly benevolent thing to do, not the other way around.
People have said this and I have already responded. If you're interested go and read them.
 

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What's the world coming to when a guy who didn't steal, murder, or physically harm another human is being demonized. Yeah he broke a couple laws, big deal. Graffiti is illegal to, but I don't think Banksy is a criminal.
 

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Dalvyn said:
What's the world coming to when a guy who didn't steal, murder, or physically harm another human is being demonized. Yeah he broke a couple laws, big deal. Graffiti is illegal to, but I don't think Banksy is a criminal.


Ok, I'm not sure if you know this, but the above statement is somewhat disingenuous. There is quite a large difference between graffiti and data theft.

So someone robs you without physically harming you, that's ok right?
 

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Last I remember they didn't steal any money. If someone stole my username and password, I'd be upset, but if they didn't do anything with it then I wouldn't want them thrown in jail. Hell, it's possible my PSN account was one they got.

No harm no foul.
 

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Dalvyn said:
What's the world coming to when a guy who didn't steal, murder, or physically harm another human is being demonized. Yeah he broke a couple laws, big deal. Graffiti is illegal to, but I don't think Banksy is a criminal.
He did help shut down PSN for 5 weeks. Fuck that. He stole Credit Card info as well.
 

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Wow, four pages and not a single "TANGO DOWN" comment? Seriously I am abit saddened.

Good for us, scumbag hacker wannabe revolutionists deserve this and more for what they have done. You'll excuse me if I don't shed a tear that he had to think of his kids only after getting caught for you know breaking the law.