Mail carrier arrested for dumping mail including 99 ballots

[Dwarvenhobble]

Facing a $250,000 fine and up to 5 years in Jail.

The ballots have since been delivered along with the rest of the mail found.

Lets hope there's not more that was missed or anything.....

 

[Avnger]

1. None of these ballots were filled out. They were still on their way from the county to voters. This is no different from a box of unfilled in-person ballets being misplaced (which happens semi-regularly).

2. The guy was caught by existing systems and the ballots were delivered.

3. As mentioned above, in-person voting regularly runs into issues too. No voting system is 100% perfect. There's absolutely zero evidence that mail-in voting is more prone to issues than in-person voting.

 

[Dalisclock]

If I learned anything from having a dad who worked for the post officer, it's that interfering with the mail is no fucking joke(in fact, it's a felony) and that the USPS takes that shit seriously. In fact, they have their own federal investigation service just for chasing this shit down.

Not sure what he thought he was accomplishing but he's very likely going to serve prison time for it.

A postal worker should know that better then most people.

 

[Chimpzy]

Dude should be hit with the book hard. It's really not the time to play it fast and loose.

 

[Gordon_4]

If I learned anything from having a dad who worked for the post officer, it's that interfering with the mail is no fucking joke(in fact, it's a felony) and that the USPS takes that shit seriously. In fact, they have their own federal investigation service just for chasing this shit down.

Not sure what he thought he was accomplishing but he's very likely going to serve prison time for it.

A postal worker should know that better then most people.

Dude should be hit with the book hard. It's really not the time to play it fast and loose.

What does that card say in Monopoly? "Go to Jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200"? Something like that I think

 

[Trunkage]

We put our ballots in a box, which gets transported by god knows who and we assume they will be counted and that’s deserves no scrutiny

We put our ballot in a box, which gets transported by the USPS, who are well know for not tampering with packages and it’s apparently fraud

 

[BrawlMan]

Some people are too dumb to live.

 

[Gordon_4]

We put our ballots in a box, which gets transported by god knows who and we assume they will be counted and that’s deserves no scrutiny

We put our ballot in a box, which gets transported by the USPS, who are well know for not tampering with packages and it’s apparently fraud

Aren't ours all transported by employees of the Electoral Commission?

 

[Trunkage]

Aren't ours all transported by employees of the Electoral Commission?

Should be. I would actually suggest that it’s contractors working for the AEC since it’s temp work.

I’ll also point out that they do this once every 3 years while post officers do it every week.

 

[Agema]

Yes, but isn't this all proof that if Joe Biden wins the election, it's going to be because of postal vote fraud?

 

[Thaluikhain]

Aren't ours all transported by employees of the Electoral Commission?

After a preliminary count at the polling place, with party scrutineers breathing down polling officers' necks. Any major discrepancy would be obvious.

 

[Schadrach]

There's absolutely zero evidence that mail-in voting is more prone to issues than in-person voting.

We switched to secret ballots at the end of the 19th century for good reasons. Mail in voting innately has every issue that we adopted secret ballots to avoid, at a minimum.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

That why you got the privacy envelope inside the mailing envelope.
It's not any less secret than in person votes

 

[Avnger]

We switched to secret ballots at the end of the 19th century for good reasons. Mail in voting innately has every issue that we adopted secret ballots to avoid, at a minimum.

I get the feeling you have some fundamental misunderstandings of how mail-in voting works.

 

[Schadrach]

I get the feeling you have some fundamental misunderstandings of how mail-in voting works.

Such as? Pretty sure the idea is that you receive a ballot in the mail, fill it out on your own time, then return it in a special envelope via the mail.

That second step is where all the things that led to us adopting the secret ballot to begin with can creep back in.

And then there are places like CA where most recent voting shenanigans have involved the legalization of ballot harvesting, ranging from the Dems flipping a traditionally GOP district by going door to door saying they were collecting ballots as "a special service only offered to Democrats" to recently the GOP setting up additional private ballot boxes (which is apparently a not permitted way of engaging in ballot harvesting while door to door is fine). Many places explicitly ban ballot harvesting because it puts another person with explicit political motives into the process but California legalized it just a few years ago.

 

[Trunkage]

Such as? Pretty sure the idea is that you receive a ballot in the mail, fill it out on your own time, then return it in a special envelope via the mail.

That second step is where all the things that led to us adopting the secret ballot to begin with can creep back in.

And then there are places like CA where most recent voting shenanigans have involved the legalization of ballot harvesting, ranging from the Dems flipping a traditionally GOP district by going door to door saying they were collecting ballots as "a special service only offered to Democrats" to recently the GOP setting up additional private ballot boxes (which is apparently a not permitted way of engaging in ballot harvesting while door to door is fine). Many places explicitly ban ballot harvesting because it puts another person with explicit political motives into the process but California legalized it just a few years ago.

The thing wrong with the GOP church etc ballot boxes is that they were then left unmanned. But its not much worse than the Dems throwing parties and giving the ballots to 'trusted individuals'

 

[dreng3]

Such as? Pretty sure the idea is that you receive a ballot in the mail, fill it out on your own time, then return it in a special envelope via the mail.

That second step is where all the things that led to us adopting the secret ballot to begin with can creep back in.

And then there are places like CA where most recent voting shenanigans have involved the legalization of ballot harvesting, ranging from the Dems flipping a traditionally GOP district by going door to door saying they were collecting ballots as "a special service only offered to Democrats" to recently the GOP setting up additional private ballot boxes (which is apparently a not permitted way of engaging in ballot harvesting while door to door is fine). Many places explicitly ban ballot harvesting because it puts another person with explicit political motives into the process but California legalized it just a few years ago.

And now going door to door to collect seems necessary since the postal service, which a lot of disabled and elderly relied upon to vote, is being screwed by the republicans.