Majora's Mask Speed Runner Beats Game in an Hour and Half

[IceForce]

When I said I was done discussing it, that didn't mean "I'll happily restart that multi-page argument with you here in this thread, because I love wasting my time repeating myself". It meant "if you try to argue with me about it again, I'll just ignore you and go about my business as if you never existed".

I think it looks more like a case of "I'll just ignore counterpoints I can't refute".

It makes me respect speedrunning and its community less and less each time it happens, too. I didn't say that the speedrun is meaningless, I just said that I don't consider it "beating the game" in any traditional sense. Apparently, however, this is offensive to them in some way and they will shout down anyone who dares suggest as much....and I don't know why they find this opinion offensive, nor do I particularly care. I'm not obligated to accept their point of view any more than they have to accept mine.

Maybe people would be more accepting of your opinions if you weren't so passive-aggressive and condescending when giving them?

I saw the same defenses and explanations rehashed enough times that I'm genuinely just sick of the discussion entirely, and don't really want to talk about it any more because it'll just lead to more of the exact same statements repeated ad infinitum.

Then why did you bring it up again in THIS thread?
That doesn't seem like something someone would do if they're "sick of the discussion".

the Escapist used a definition of "beating the game" that is generally not shared by the core audience of gaming, or at the very least, is typically not a viewpoint that most blokes not directly invested into speedrunning would agree with.

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[Trotgar]

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First of all, sorry for the late response.

I was never there for the original argument, so I didn't know your stance on the matter accurately, I mostly wanted to know if you had a different definition to beating a game (apparently you do) than some people (especially the speedrunning community), and I understand your point of view.

Also I never wanted to and don't believe I did start any arguments. I believe the word "beating" has no universal, objective meaning in this case, meaning no-one is really wrong or right here. I personally just lean towards another definition than you do.

In the end, I think we can agree this isn't really a matter of too much importance: even if some people were mislead into thinking Cosmo beat Ocarina of Time "properly" in under 19 minutes (which I think is unlikely, though if someone is not familiar with the game they might believe it more easily), I don't see it causing any harm.

BTW, I'd be interested in knowing what you think of the so-called 100%-speedruns. For example Siglemic often does 120 star runs in Super Mario 64, and while he may use some glitches/exploits to reach places faster (I'm not really sure as to what extent he might use them, at least he can't skip any levels or stars), it's mostly him just performing sick platforming.

Sorry if my post sprawls a bit; I'm quite tired at the moment.