Mr. Q said:I watched Married... With Children but I never really enjoyed it. I may have laughed at one joke or two but the majority of the show was just repulsive. As for why I watched it, I can't say. I could use the "watching a train wreck" excuse, but I think it was mostly due to being a teenager and lacking a refined pallet for television. Or maybe I wanted to hurt myself mentally (I was going through a rough patch in my life, BTW).
As for the Men's Rights Activists, be it the fictional parody on a 90s sitcom or the disgusting reality we face today, it is definitely one movement that needs to be dumped into a mass grave alongside other outdated concepts and empty ideas. I'd call the MRA as outdated as the Betamax, but the Betamax still has a functioning purpose in the world.
So how does that differ from the MRM? Most of the time the noise that comes from them are the rantings of men left behind in the old ways of thinking and unable to cope with a society in which their gender doesn't instantly transfer privilege onto them. Just like Movie-Bob I've also seen Al Bundy reflected in the MRM, though I always chalked it up more to coincidence than some kind of stroke of genius from the show runners.Andrew Siribohdi said:I don't think the NO MA'AM movement was ever meant to be taken seriously. Everytime they tried to do something, whether it'd be to start a church or get Psycho Dad back on the air or hijack a daytime talk show, it always ended in failure. Really, they just the mad rantings of a man left back in the old ways of thinking, a Willy Loman but much sillier (is it any wonder that one of the episode titles was 'Death of a Shoe Salesman'?)
In conclusion women suck and don't do enough of itRedd the Sock said:If you're attacking MRAs, you might want to pick something other than this. Al's past glory was nothing compared to Peg's. She never grew out of her cheerleader mindset that said all she had to do was look pretty and put out and get provided for. Al put food on the table, she wanted to eat out and never cook. She wanted a maid, he needed to get a second job. He put away cash to buy a new car, she dug it up from the back yard for lotto tickets. Al rarely if ever got treated like a person (at least after the first season when the show stopped playing it straight) but rather a cash machine you got to blame for your life sucking. Marcy wasn't much better as the show progressed her from sweet and naive, to someone that actively looks down on Al for his status, and into a more active nemesis that almost seemed to take joy in crushing his. By the time NOMAM came about the show was a parody of its own parody, but if you truly stop and look at how Al was treated by the people in his life, can you blame any push back he might try to make? It doesn't paint the idea of an MRA as a bad guy, but an understandable push back against an idea that feminism that has a vision of equality in which a man's opinion, thoughts, desires and dreams don't matter so that women can be happy.
Whether that's accurate in reality today is a different question, one I really don't want to tackle right now.
I agree. The only thing worse than asshole MRAs are people who won't acknowledge that sometimes they make some good points.Toilet said:It's kind of sad that the general view of MRA groups are labeled as hateful, misogynist and ridiculous where some groups like Fathers 4 Justice, Save Indian Family Foundation and National Coalition for Men actually do some good work. It's almost like how those tumblr feminist don't represent the entirety of feminism as a whole just how a single angry guy with a gun doesn't represent all MRAs.
Also just because I like to draw parallels: Valerie Solanas = Elliot Rodgers.
I actually knew someone who was in fathers for Justice (threw my dad), he contributes to some of it's funding. Nice guy, his ex filled his sons head with rubbish till one day he was 13 and found out the truth. I think he didn't talk to his son for 5ish years and he Paid for her high standard of living while she was married to another (richer) dude.Toilet said:It's kind of sad that the general view of MRA groups are labeled as hateful, misogynist and ridiculous where some groups like Fathers 4 Justice, Save Indian Family Foundation and National Coalition for Men actually do some good work.