Marvel Reveals Full Phase 3 Slate, Black Panther Actor, More

[mecegirl]

As someone who generally doesn't read comic books, this recent experiment by MCU is really tempting me to get in to some comic book readings.

Go for it. There are so many trades and collections out now that you should be able to find some story arcs that suit your fancy.

 

[Something Amyss]

I've never been a big a Black Panther fan. I just can't think of any storylines where he did anything interesting or controversial. I think in a way it's been a part of this diversity deal where it's "hey wheres our black Captain america??". Now don't get me wrong I'm all for being inclusive, but weirdly Black Panther kinda represents this well spoken back to africa "what could have been" muslim buzzkill. When I think of my black superheroes at least from an american perspective I'm all about Blade and Luke Cage and Isaiah Bradley and patriot or Night Thrasher. I grew up white but poor and you know my guys are Iron Man(alcoholism broken home) & Spider-man(broken home poor misunderstood) & well all the x-men(hatred xenophobia) heroes I could look at and say hey they overcame. I think most of my black friends liked Batman mostly because he had a broken home and still had all the cool stuff we couldn't afford and as we got older John Stewart but were talking marvel. I don't really have any right to speak for the black nerd community but at least in my circle none of us liked Black Panther and other than Luke Cage we just didn't really have a black Marvel superhero to look up to and thats a shame. We got Spawn which I think for teen in the 90's he was the perfect representation of what black wanted in a superhero. Man marvel should have done more with DeathLok. He could have been a pretty cool Marvel version of Cyborg is now pretty badass since the Teen titan cartoon. Unfortunately I think DeathLok finally got relegated to evil robot Terminator status since that X-Force run.

I guess what I'm saying is I'm all for a black superhero movie(Meteor man!), but I just could not care less about black Panther. I wish they'd do Luke Cage instead since we already got Blade.

Ókay, I get he doesn't do it for you, but I don't get where "guy who's been a constant since the 60s gets a movie everyone's been clamoring for since the start of the MCU" equals a "diversity deal."

I really would like to see Night Thrasher get a movie/TV series (anyone remember when he was supposed to get one on UPN? Anyone remember UPN? No?), though.

I think they have a right to give hulk a break. They started it twice and failed both times. Not saying i didn't like them but they were failures in Marvels eyes I don't blame them for taking a swing at other titles. Personally I think Mark Ruffalo was kind safe and meh. I can't see him carrying a whole movie on his own. I really like Eric Bana he deserves another shot the failures of Hulk 2003 were not his.

I just want a movie where Hulk Smashes for 60-70 minutes of a 2 hour runtime. Mark Lee Buffalo isn't needed for much screen time in a Hulk movie. I don't blame them if they want to distance themselves from the last two, though.

My only concern is the Civil War one, they don't have a massive roster yet of heroes yet, so it will be interesting to see how they handle it.

Yeah, a split in a universe with only a handful of heroes doesn't have the same scale.

Oh, and the execution of the comics was kind of bad.

 

[katsabas]

I see Marvel has taken the Harry Potter/Twilight/Hobbit/Hunger Games road and split the final entry in its cash cow franchise into two parts. Because why milk an infinite amount of money when you can milk infinity plus one?

But do do that would be... to court death #yeaaaaahhh

I did not follow that at all.

It's an Avengers reference and the last line in the movie. Thanos is in love with Death, the idea of it and the personification of it, i.e. a chick. Because every story worth telling is all about a girl.

There is a big difference between Twilight, HP, The Hobbit and Infinity. While all the first three are one main book, the Infinity Events span many, many, MANY comic books, there is Thanos Quest, Infinity Gauntlet, Infinity War, Infinity Crusade, Annihilation, Infinity and much more. And each one of these is at least 6 or 7 issues long. There IS material for 2 films full of stuff, believe me.

 

[WolfThomas]

Hmm. What's particularly interesting about this is the implications for Agents of SHIELD - up until now the most plausible fan theory about Skye/her scenery-chewing pappy was that they were Marvel's way of introducing the Inhumans into the MCU, but the fact an explicitly Inhumans-focused movie is coming up but not for 3-4 years makes that pretty unlikely; they can hardly drag such a thin plot thread out for that long before a payoff, assuming AoS even lasts that long, and I doubt Marvel would be all "BAM! - Inhumans baby!" in AoS and then wait years to put out the film that ties into that reveal.

I'm still betting he's Calvin Zabo (Mr Hyde) and Skye is Daisy Johnson aka Quake, the precocious earthquake wielding teen who briefly commanded shield.

 

[Gordon_4_v1legacy]

Here's T'Challa:

Looks fucking awesome.

 

[Genocidicles]

I assume it will mostly be Loki because:

A. He starts Ragnorak in the original Norse myth
B. They set him up for it basically at the end of the second movie

That said, I hope Surtur is the next big bad alongside Loki.

It could be about the actual character Ragnarok, a cyborg clone of Thor created during the Civil War by the pro-registration side.

 

[Trishbot]

I am probably one of the few people who are already 'superhero' sick on this website, but sheez. How can a person get invested if you are being whammied from all sides with film versions of already known heroes in comics? it's also a display of how Hollywood (yes, that bitching you knew it was coming) is running on empty with fresh ideas.

I hate to tell you this, I really am... but Hollywood has been adapting films from source material since... well, the invention of film. One of the first films ever, in 1910, was of Frankenstein, while "classics" from the 1930s, like Wizard of Oz and Gone with the Wind, were adaptations of books and novels. Hollywood has been bringing the written word to life since its inception. Nothing has changed in over 100 years. This isn't a new development.

But "already known heroes" isn't entirely accurate considering the vast majority of movie-goers don't read comics and, in the case of Guardians of the Galaxy, many of these heroes are entirely unknown to mainstream audiences. For many, movies are their first experiences with heroes like Ant-Man, Black Panther, Star-Lord, or Doctor Strange, and it's doubtful many people who even read comics know entirely the origin of specific heroes and villains. Bringing them to life on the big screen to millions of people who never picked up a comic is smart AND exciting, giving old fans the chance to see beloved heroes brought to life, and new fans something fresh and new to experience.

Personally I hope Marvel and DC will put a sock in it from 2020 because I am fed up with the chewed out toy called superheroes on the big screen. Or Ebola will get us all, either way... fine by me.

That's as silly as saying "I'm sick of robots/zombies/aliens" on the big screen. Those are beloved genre conventions and characters that will always have an audience. Like it or not, superheroes are here to stay.

But, here's the thing... while, yes, there are nearly a dozen Marvel movies coming, they are not the ONLY genre films coming out. These last several years have seen great films and franchises that didn't come from comics. Go see Interstellar. Enjoy Birdman (which is a satire OF comic film infatuation). Frozen and How to Train Your Dragon. Zero Dark Thirty. Argo and Gone Girl.

For perspective, it was estimated that, out of all the films to release theatrically in a year, roughly 5% or lower were "superhero" films. They're just the biggest spectacles. Go see the other 95% if you're bored of heroes doing heroic things.

I, however, can enjoy "superhero" film like Captain America: The Winter Soldier as a brilliant spy and espionage thriller, The Incredible Hulk as a misunderstood monster movie, Guardians of the Galaxy as a quirky sci-fi team-up, Thor as a might and magic fantasy movie, the original Captain America as a plucky old-fashioned war movie, and Avengers as an epic alien invasion film, all of which are brilliant DESPITE their superhero name, not because of it.

To lump all superhero movies together as a genre to be sick of is like saying you're tired of seeing animated films, despite how vastly different they can be.

 

[Genocidicles]

There's always Ant-Man that's coming out about 2 months or so after Avengers 2. It's gonna be interesting to see if people really go for a movie like that or not as Ant-Man is really going to be the first one of those "Well known to comic fans, but never heard of by the general public" type movies. If people don't go for it that's not gonna bode well for stuff like Black Panther.

Well The Guardians of the Galaxy were less known than Antman is, and their film was still a smashing success.

As long as Marvel markets Ant-man right they could make another minor hero into an A-lister.

 

[stringtheory]

I assume it will mostly be Loki because:

A. He starts Ragnorak in the original Norse myth
B. They set him up for it basically at the end of the second movie

That said, I hope Surtur is the next big bad alongside Loki.

It could be about the actual character Ragnarok, a cyborg clone of Thor created during the Civil War by the pro-registration side.

*twitches* And you just reminded me just how ridiculous comics can get...

 

[omega 616]

(which I suspect you where probably asking "who is this guy" in the year before his movie came out).

Nah, I've always been aware of iron man. I know nothing of his origin story, other than what was in the films but was he in a cartoon/animated series? I vaguely remember something with him in as a kiddie, maybe spiderman or that one with batman ... I dunno. Shit I don't even know who is DC and who is Marvel ... all the same stuff to me!

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As I hinted at above, I watched cartoons of spiderman, batman (especially) and what I have just found out to be called the justice league (batman, flash etc) so I know them from kiddiehood.

Spiderman I can see as a cool concept, spiders have venom, climb things, spin webs etc ... spiderman doesn't have a venom ability (that I know of. Just the cooler symbiote) but shooting web (which by the by, does that come out of him or a device he built 'cos it seems to never be consistent!) and climbing he has.

I know this is a controversial opinion but, I think batman is the worst "hero" ever ... just a total *****. Even as a concept, bats have sonar and nothing else.

Superman is cool in concept, it's just "aww, wouldn't it be cool if ...". He is a little kids dream make believe character! You know when you're playing hero and you get one power, he is the kid that said "my power is I have all the powers!" and you all said "you can't have that!" but thought "why didn't I think of that!".

So selling 2 out of 3 of those concepts is easy and for batman you could just pitch "Sherlock with more fighting and zaney enemies". How do you pitch the idea of ant man? He can lift 20 times his own weight ... "yeah, so can the hulk!" ... he is tiny! "how is that useful or entertaining?".

Black panther sounds like discount batman and watchmen already has that, plus I can't really move past porn star name. You could sell it on cat like reflexes but which hero doesn't have that?

Granted, I know nothing of their powers or abilities. Just the names aren't doing anything for me.

I will see the films but definitely not in theater.

 

[Insideout Ink Demon]

snip snip snip "yeah, so can the hulk!" ... he is tiny! "how is that useful or entertaining?".

I think he shrinks at will, and later learns to grow at will and gets called Gi-antman. gods bless the golden age of comics.

its a fair comment; I feel most the names are ridiculous, but thats part of the fun.
I'll be honest, I'm fanboying over the lot of this, but I know none of it would be possible without the shared universe carrying some of these characters.

It could be about the actual character Ragnarok, a cyborg clone of Thor created during the Civil War by the pro-registration side.

I think I'd love that, I like Thor, I don't like Thor movies.

 

[CrazyGirl17]

Why does the Infinity War have to be two movies? Because it's the last of three Avengers movies? Why do last movies in the series have to be two-parters anyway?

...Sorry, just felt the need to vent, otherwise, I'm interested in seeing how the Marvel movie verse turns out...

Edit: Okay, so maybe there's a lot of material in the Infinity War, it still seems awkward to me...

 

[PunkRex]

Look what Thanos found (Pretty much confirms him for Ragnarok)

I hope there's more Thanos in Ragnarok, the 2nd Thor movie felt like the weakest in the MCU because it had little to do except reveal another infinity stone and where as Ironman and Captain America have topics they can explore, Thor is what it is, about Space Vikings; which is cool no doubt but there's nothing to say outside of 'oh that's cool' .

 

[FPLOON]

Here's T'Challa:

Spoiler: Awesome ass teaser poster

I don't want to jump the gun too quickly but... That's fucking boss as fuck!

OT: Aw shit... I can't wait to see Black Panther before my birthday that particular year... Plus, every movie after that is going to be an instant watch-when-it-comes-out for me regardless... Also, I'm so getting my friends together to watch GotG2 the same way we did for the first GotG movie, for sure...

 

[Erttheking]

Black Panther and Ms. Marvel? Hell to the yes. Just hope that they don't make Black Panther too much of a brooder. Nice to see the cast of Avengers getting more diverse, it's part of the appeal of teams like the avengers.

What else we got...Dr. Strange, that sounds good, another Guardians of the Galaxy, kickass, Thor Ragnorok, sweet. The only thing I'm really worried about is Civil War, because the concept sounds iffy as Hell. Everything else looks good. Looking forward to Age of Ultron too.

Christ...it feels like this world is actually evolving. I live in a wondrous time to be a fan of superheroes.

(Also, who are the inhumans? Never heard of them)

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

(Also, who are the inhumans? Never heard of them)

They're basically mutants that aren't called mutants. Bob did a summary on them:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/comicsandcosplay/12522-Everything-You-Need-To-Know-About-Marvel-s-Inhumans