Mass Effect 2 Hitting PS3 in January

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Do M$ own the ME1 game or the ME1 story?

If its only the game, the PS3 ME2 could have a CGI video say 30 - 60 mins, with quick time events, decisions n story from the original, meaning PS3 owner could have the choice to carry over decisions in a similar way to 360 owners
 

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Well, I'm happy for the PS3 only owners, hope they have many hours of enjoyment and hope they can find a get around of the ME1 stuff, because it really is some really good game.
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If its only the game, the PS3 ME2 could have a CGI video say 30 - 60 mins, with quick time events, decisions n story from the original, meaning PS3 owner could have the choice to carry over decisions in a similar way to 360 owners
That actually sounds like a good idea! Allows enjoyment of the story while also having impact on getting acquainted/attached to Shepard. On a side note, and I'm not trying to be a grammar nazi and I'm one of the first people to be insulted when random internet jaggoffs (like myself) tell me what to do, but I find it really hard to take someone seriously when they use the whole "M$" thing (see: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2002/7/22/ though not exactly for that reason but you get my point) it just seems childish. Other than that I really like that Idea.

Finally, I'm not surprised but seriously dissapointed by some of the remarks in this thread. Seriously both the PS3 and 360 crowds should be better than this.
 

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Also, 'going down in flames'? Really? The Dreamcast went down in flames. The original Xbox was unsucessful. A console does not get 4-5 years into it's lifecycle and then crash and burn because of one swapped exclusive.
No, it crashes and burns because (a) it's remaining exclusives are no great shakes, (b) it's online service is sticking with an uncompetitive business model, and (c) it is based around a proprietary data storage format that tanked, while its competitor is based around one that has grown leaps and bounds in popularity over the past half-decade. So yeah.
a) Your opinion. I'm fairly sure that from a business point of view, Halo: Reach (for example) is about as 'great shakes' as exclusives get.

b) I don't see what you're getting at. Xbox Live subscriptions aren't going to shift consoles, but being paid money on an annual basis by a significant portion of your customers is not to be sniffed at.

c) If you're talking about Blu Ray, no one gives a shit. The Wii has financially dominated this console generation with the weakest technology by far, so why would a comparatively small difference in hardware result in the epic failure of the 360?

In short, my original point still stands (I know I sound like a bell end when I insist my own argument is still valid). A console which is still a key competitor after 4-5 years has not, by any standard, crashed or burned. So the PS3 overtakes it in sales. So what? Microsoft will not implode. The sales they already made will not retroactively disappear. The console may well become known as a failure in the fullness of time, but it will not die overnight.
 
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Dragon Zero said:
Well, I'm happy for the PS3 only owners, hope they have many hours of enjoyment and hope they can find a get around of the ME1 stuff, because it really is some really good game.
Mr Ink 5000 said:
If its only the game, the PS3 ME2 could have a CGI video say 30 - 60 mins, with quick time events, decisions n story from the original, meaning PS3 owner could have the choice to carry over decisions in a similar way to 360 owners
That actually sounds like a good idea! Allows enjoyment of the story while also having impact on getting acquainted/attached to Shepard. On a side note, and I'm not trying to be a grammar nazi and I'm one of the first people to be insulted when random internet jaggoffs (like myself) tell me what to do, but I find it really hard to take someone seriously when they use the whole "M$" thing (see: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2002/7/22/ though not exactly for that reason but you get my point) it just seems childish. Other than that I really like that Idea.

Finally, I'm not surprised but seriously dissapointed by some of the remarks in this thread. Seriously both the PS3 and 360 crowds should be better than this.
HaHa, it's just second nature to me now, I don't even realise I'm doing it, nor remember why I started it.
EDIT: Oh yeah, gotta love penny arcade, I remember one strip about how impossible it is to please some people on the net, a link to that on the DA2 thread would be quite appropriate right about now.
 

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That is awesome news. Except my bum is feeling a little sore right about now. I mean 360 owners made Bioware how much from the series. And they turn around and give the new guys a bunch of new content? That sucks Bioware. That is a kick square in the nuts. Glad to see loyalty means so much these days.
Bioware is loyal to the GAMING community, not to Xbox.
 

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Soviet Heavy said:
squid5580 said:
That is awesome news. Except my bum is feeling a little sore right about now. I mean 360 owners made Bioware how much from the series. And they turn around and give the new guys a bunch of new content? That sucks Bioware. That is a kick square in the nuts. Glad to see loyalty means so much these days.
Bioware is loyal to the GAMING community, not to Xbox.
IS Xbox not part of the gaming community?
 

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squid5580 said:
Soviet Heavy said:
squid5580 said:
That is awesome news. Except my bum is feeling a little sore right about now. I mean 360 owners made Bioware how much from the series. And they turn around and give the new guys a bunch of new content? That sucks Bioware. That is a kick square in the nuts. Glad to see loyalty means so much these days.
Bioware is loyal to the GAMING community, not to Xbox.
IS Xbox not part of the gaming community?
It is, but it does not represent the community as a whole. Bioware has made games for Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft and PC.
 

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Soviet Heavy said:
squid5580 said:
Soviet Heavy said:
squid5580 said:
That is awesome news. Except my bum is feeling a little sore right about now. I mean 360 owners made Bioware how much from the series. And they turn around and give the new guys a bunch of new content? That sucks Bioware. That is a kick square in the nuts. Glad to see loyalty means so much these days.
Bioware is loyal to the GAMING community, not to Xbox.
IS Xbox not part of the gaming community?
It is, but it does not represent the community as a whole. Bioware has made games for Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft and PC.
I think you are misunderstanding where I am coming from. I think it is great when a company like Bioware or anyone else supports all platforms. I am not an employee of Sony,MS, or Nintendo. Mass Effect on the PS3 is a win/win. PS3 owners get one of the best games ever and Bioware makes more money. What bothers me is this whole exclusive content bullshit. I paid the same price you are going to pay yet I have to pay more if I want Overlord but (if the rumor is true the content is Overlord) they get it for free. Which says to me "you are a fucking moron for buying it on day 1 and instead should have waited the year to find out if there would be a better version on the PS3." So I supported Mass Effect from day 1 for nothing. Infact it was detrimental for me to support them when I should have waited. But hey now I know right? Won't happen again that is for sure. Next time I'll wait and see and end up buying used. Which helps me but not Bioware.
 
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Soviet Heavy said:
squid5580 said:
Soviet Heavy said:
squid5580 said:
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I think you are misunderstanding where I am coming from. I think it is great when a company like Bioware or anyone else supports all platforms. I am not an employee of Sony,MS, or Nintendo. Mass Effect on the PS3 is a win/win. PS3 owners get one of the best games ever and Bioware makes more money. What bothers me is this whole exclusive content bullshit. I paid the same price you are going to pay yet I have to pay more if I want Overlord but (if the rumor is true the content is Overlord) they get it for free. Which says to me "you are a fucking moron for buying it on day 1 and instead should have waited the year to find out if there would be a better version on the PS3." So I supported Mass Effect from day 1 for nothing. Infact it was detrimental for me to support them when I should have waited. But hey now I know right? Won't happen again that is for sure. Next time I'll wait and see and end up buying used. Which helps me but not Bioware.
A little bit like (but i do understand not the same as) GOTY editions
 

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squid5580 said:
Soviet Heavy said:
squid5580 said:
Soviet Heavy said:
squid5580 said:
That is awesome news. Except my bum is feeling a little sore right about now. I mean 360 owners made Bioware how much from the series. And they turn around and give the new guys a bunch of new content? That sucks Bioware. That is a kick square in the nuts. Glad to see loyalty means so much these days.
Bioware is loyal to the GAMING community, not to Xbox.
IS Xbox not part of the gaming community?
It is, but it does not represent the community as a whole. Bioware has made games for Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft and PC.
I think you are misunderstanding where I am coming from. I think it is great when a company like Bioware or anyone else supports all platforms. I am not an employee of Sony,MS, or Nintendo. Mass Effect on the PS3 is a win/win. PS3 owners get one of the best games ever and Bioware makes more money. What bothers me is this whole exclusive content bullshit. I paid the same price you are going to pay yet I have to pay more if I want Overlord but (if the rumor is true the content is Overlord) they get it for free. Which says to me "you are a fucking moron for buying it on day 1 and instead should have waited the year to find out if there would be a better version on the PS3." So I supported Mass Effect from day 1 for nothing. Infact it was detrimental for me to support them when I should have waited. But hey now I know right? Won't happen again that is for sure. Next time I'll wait and see and end up buying used. Which helps me but not Bioware.
Older games are cheaper, when PS3 version of ME2 is release you can probably get it on 360 at $30 or less.
 

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mysterj said:
squid5580 said:
Soviet Heavy said:
squid5580 said:
Soviet Heavy said:
squid5580 said:
That is awesome news. Except my bum is feeling a little sore right about now. I mean 360 owners made Bioware how much from the series. And they turn around and give the new guys a bunch of new content? That sucks Bioware. That is a kick square in the nuts. Glad to see loyalty means so much these days.
Bioware is loyal to the GAMING community, not to Xbox.
IS Xbox not part of the gaming community?
It is, but it does not represent the community as a whole. Bioware has made games for Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft and PC.
I think you are misunderstanding where I am coming from. I think it is great when a company like Bioware or anyone else supports all platforms. I am not an employee of Sony,MS, or Nintendo. Mass Effect on the PS3 is a win/win. PS3 owners get one of the best games ever and Bioware makes more money. What bothers me is this whole exclusive content bullshit. I paid the same price you are going to pay yet I have to pay more if I want Overlord but (if the rumor is true the content is Overlord) they get it for free. Which says to me "you are a fucking moron for buying it on day 1 and instead should have waited the year to find out if there would be a better version on the PS3." So I supported Mass Effect from day 1 for nothing. Infact it was detrimental for me to support them when I should have waited. But hey now I know right? Won't happen again that is for sure. Next time I'll wait and see and end up buying used. Which helps me but not Bioware.
Older games are cheaper, when PS3 version of ME2 is release you can probably get it on 360 at $30 or less.
Doesn't help those who already bought it on day 1 supporting them now does it?
 

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I think you are misunderstanding where I am coming from. I think it is great when a company like Bioware or anyone else supports all platforms. I am not an employee of Sony,MS, or Nintendo. Mass Effect on the PS3 is a win/win. PS3 owners get one of the best games ever and Bioware makes more money. What bothers me is this whole exclusive content bullshit. I paid the same price you are going to pay yet I have to pay more if I want Overlord but (if the rumor is true the content is Overlord) they get it for free. Which says to me "you are a fucking moron for buying it on day 1 and instead should have waited the year to find out if there would be a better version on the PS3." So I supported Mass Effect from day 1 for nothing. Infact it was detrimental for me to support them when I should have waited. But hey now I know right? Won't happen again that is for sure. Next time I'll wait and see and end up buying used. Which helps me but not Bioware.
What "better version"? I mean, seriously, the 360 crowd gets both Mass Effect games, with the third one comping up, with DLC, for the past, what, 3, 4 years? Yet somehow the fact that the Ps3 is getting just Mass Effect 2 next year with some extra goodies in somehow unfair to the 360? I'm not trying to flame you, I'm just trying to get what the hell you're complaining about. You still get the games, you still get the content, you still get the first ME and the third. The PS3 just gets ME2 with some bonus content, which is probably just going to be some of the extra DLC. Why is that "unfair"? The Ps3 crowd had to wait years just for the second game to pop onto the system, I'd say it's a bit nice for them to get some compensation for the wait, especially considering that they won't get the first game (DLC could help introduce the series)

I mean, I get that you're annoyed for having to pay a little extra for some content, but that's the case for most games, if not most businesses. What, so Bioware is finally able to give a sizable audience one of their games and gives them a little extra content for the long-ass wait, and it's unfair? It's betraying people? Come on, I don't want to call you a fanboy, but that's the vibe I'm getting from your complaint.

Why would you be a "fucking moron for buying it day one"? You bought their games for the 360 years ago, would you really want to wait 3-4 years just for the second game to be on another system?

This is just really sad, I'm not trying to insult you or flame you or whatever, but I find this complaining of "backstabbing" and "disloyalty" from Bioware a load of crap. Why are people suddenly getting pissed at the PS3 getting some previously exclusive games with a little addition (Portal 2, ME2)? Seriously, you do realize that this is exactly what PS3 fanboys (including myself, I admit) did when FFXIII was announced for 360? Now you know how we they felt! It's petty, it's pointless, and it's just in bad taste.
 

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Doesn't help those who already bought it on day 1 supporting them now does it?
Honestly I have given up on expecting BW to care for those who support it, they dont listen to fans, many felt sold out from ME1 to ME2 for the casual market, then you have people who buy it new, turns out PS3 gets a better deal. Same with how many see DA2 going against many fans wishes, by making you a human and dialouge wheels. BW dosent seem to care about fans, just itself.
Yep that is exactly how I feel about them right about now. Dragon Age 2 went from a day 1 to a when it hits the bargain bin. On the plus side I do feel a bit more respect for Bobby. I may not always like what he has to say but at least he doesn't jerk us around when he says it.
 

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Jumplion said:
squid5580 said:
I think you are misunderstanding where I am coming from. I think it is great when a company like Bioware or anyone else supports all platforms. I am not an employee of Sony,MS, or Nintendo. Mass Effect on the PS3 is a win/win. PS3 owners get one of the best games ever and Bioware makes more money. What bothers me is this whole exclusive content bullshit. I paid the same price you are going to pay yet I have to pay more if I want Overlord but (if the rumor is true the content is Overlord) they get it for free. Which says to me "you are a fucking moron for buying it on day 1 and instead should have waited the year to find out if there would be a better version on the PS3." So I supported Mass Effect from day 1 for nothing. Infact it was detrimental for me to support them when I should have waited. But hey now I know right? Won't happen again that is for sure. Next time I'll wait and see and end up buying used. Which helps me but not Bioware.
What "better version"? I mean, seriously, the 360 crowd gets both Mass Effect games, with the third one comping up, with DLC, for the past, what, 3, 4 years? Yet somehow the fact that the Ps3 is getting just Mass Effect 2 next year with some extra goodies in somehow unfair to the 360? I'm not trying to flame you, I'm just trying to get what the hell you're complaining about. You still get the games, you still get the content, you still get the first ME and the third. The PS3 just gets ME2 with some bonus content, which is probably just going to be some of the extra DLC. Why is that "unfair"? The Ps3 crowd had to wait years just for the second game to pop onto the system, I'd say it's a bit nice for them to get some compensation for the wait, especially considering that they won't get the first game (DLC could help introduce the series)

I mean, I get that you're annoyed for having to pay a little extra for some content, but that's the case for most games, if not most businesses. What, so Bioware is finally able to give a sizable audience one of their games and gives them a little extra content for the long-ass wait, and it's unfair? It's betraying people? Come on, I don't want to call you a fanboy, but that's the vibe I'm getting from your complaint.

Why would you be a "fucking moron for buying it day one"? You bought their games for the 360 years ago, would you really want to wait 3-4 years just for the second game to be on another system?

This is just really sad, I'm not trying to insult you or flame you or whatever, but I find this complaining of "backstabbing" and "disloyalty" from Bioware a load of crap. Why are people suddenly getting pissed at the PS3 getting some previously exclusive games with a little addition (Portal 2, ME2)? Seriously, you do realize that this is exactly what PS3 fanboys (including myself, I admit) did when FFXIII was announced for 360? Now you know how we they felt! It's petty, it's pointless, and it's just in bad taste.
Hey I agree it should be on the PS3. I just think you should get the same game experience for the same money that we got. No more and no less. It may be a year old to 360 owners but it is still new to PS3 owners. I probably wouldn't be so pissed if it wasn't for Alone in the Dark. But my guess is when the PS3 version comes out it will run better and be less glitchy.
 

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Hey I agree it should be on the PS3. I just think you should get the same game experience for the same money that we got. No more and no less. It may be a year old to 360 owners but it is still new to PS3 owners. I probably wouldn't be so pissed if it wasn't for Alone in the Dark. But my guess is when the PS3 version comes out it will run better and be less glitchy.
I guess I get what you're saying, but I still find it a bit petty. I mean, are you really going to stop supporting Bioware because the PS3 owners get a little extra for a little less? That, I think, is the main sad part I'm getting from everyone's complaint. I swear, Bioware fans are starting to sound like VALVe fans whenever VALVe does something annoying.
 

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THE PS3 COMETH. still the best console imo :p. and here i was going to wait for the price to come down on steam and run ME2 on my shitty computer but Bioware loves me too much :D. great news for ps3 owners, bit of a downer for everyone else but guess what that means? buy a ps3 or stop complaining you still have your halo and your gears of war and your left for dead 1 and 2 and dead rising and XBLA.
 

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Jumplion said:
squid5580 said:
Hey I agree it should be on the PS3. I just think you should get the same game experience for the same money that we got. No more and no less. It may be a year old to 360 owners but it is still new to PS3 owners. I probably wouldn't be so pissed if it wasn't for Alone in the Dark. But my guess is when the PS3 version comes out it will run better and be less glitchy.
I guess I get what you're saying, but I still find it a bit petty. I mean, are you really going to stop supporting Bioware because the PS3 owners get a little extra for a little less? That, I think, is the main sad part I'm getting from everyone's complaint. I swear, Bioware fans are starting to sound like VALVe fans whenever VALVe does something annoying.
Hey I am not a rich man. I don't have 69.99 + 13% tax to throw around all willy nilly. And when something like this happens it makes me feel like I wasted the money because there is a very good chance I paid that money for what could be the inferior version. Especially when there is other companies with other just as solid games working just as hard for that 70 bucks. So with them playing this game my only option in the future is to play the waiting game. And that means not buying on Day 1 which means I probably won't be able to find it new. Or if I can it won't be going for 69.99 + tax. That is what I mean when I say supporting them. It really is a matter of trust.
 

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Hey I am not a rich man. I don't have 69.99 + 13% tax to throw around all willy nilly. And when something like this happens it makes me feel like I wasted the money because there is a very good chance I paid that money for what could be the inferior version. Especially when there is other companies with other just as solid games working just as hard for that 70 bucks. So with them playing this game my only option in the future is to play the waiting game. And that means not buying on Day 1 which means I probably won't be able to find it new. Or if I can it won't be going for 69.99 + tax. That is what I mean when I say supporting them. It really is a matter of trust.
Welcome to PS3-ville, where most multiplatform games are (supposedly) not optimized for it and therefore the 360 usually runs the games better. We/they (I got a new PC, so I'm a little less "they") have been dealing with this crap for the past 4-5 years, we've (okay, I'm with the "we" crowd, I'm a Sony fanboy at heart) grown accustomed to it, what the hell can we do about it? The 360 gets DLC after DLC after DLC ahead of time of the PS3, maps packs for CoD games, DLC for Fallout 3 that we got a year after launch, timed exclusives of both full games and DLC (Bioshock comes to mind), etc... all the friggin' time. But when the same thing happens to the 360, suddenly it's all "OOOHH NOOO! You traitors! How could you be disloyal to your loyal fanbase! You stabbed us in the back!"

I do not like the excuse of "But now we're getting/we got the 'inferior' version!" Bull. Shit. No you did not, you got the same experience that we are getting 3 years ago. It's similar to a "Game of the Year" edition of a game (Fallout 3 comes to mind), if you're patient enough you get a better deal, if you're not you get to play the game earlier, it's standard for most things in the electronics industry. The bonus content (note how it's not DLC) could either be something to introduce PS3 owners to the ME universe or it could be a few extra missions on the DLC, I don't know, we'll find out.

Personally I think it's a fair enough compensation for a 3-4 year wait for the second game in the series, we're not even getting the first one so we don't get half the full content of Mass Effect. Fine, you're pissed that you payed a little extra to play the content now, too bad so sad, toughen up, life goes on, and be happy that PS3 owners can finally experience half the world of Mass Effect.

Note: I apologize if I'm coming off as aggressive, but I really do find it pitiful of some of the complaints that Mass Effect 2 (And Portal 2 incidentally) is coming to PS3. Seriously, this is how PS3 owners felt when FFXIII was announced for 360, don't you go whining about "It's not fair!" when it perfectly is.