Mass Effect 2 Hitting PS3 in January

[squid5580]

I am not saying piracy is right. I am saying I understand why people would not want to drop the 70 bucks and support these companies, not just BW since BW is not the only one who does this.

It's $60 here in US of A, so I'm assuming you're talking about price in Europe or something? That's inflation, not the developers fault, unless I got my economics completely wrong, which is likely.

Rockstar has played it both ways. GTA4 was supported more then along comes RDR and all the bonuses go to PS3.

....after a full year of GTA4 exclusive DLC on the 360 (Lost+Damned, Ballad of Gay Tony).

Like I said earlier, it's not so much fun when it happens to you.

And don't think the developers are the sole responsibilities here, Microsoft/Sony probably offered exclusivity deals for them, so get some hate towards them (I know I have with MS )

And remember, Alone in the Dark used the 360 to beta test for the small price of 60 bucks. It really is a matter of respect. For the industry to survive they gotta stop playing these games.

Don't care much for Alone in the Dark, but the industry is surviving just fine with the "games" like these. The general electronics industry is practically based on this; pay for the expensive TV now or wait a bit for the price to go down, while yet ANOTHER, even better, TV comes out. It's called being patient, conserving money, checking the deals, or just splurging.

You decided to buy Mass Effect 2 brand new. You decided to purchase the DLC on the spot. You decided not to wait for the price to go down, or see if there would be a GotY edition of it. You decided not to wait for the game to come out to PS3, understandably so because it took 3 fucking years for it to happen. The PS3 is not getting anything that the 360 or PC haven't already gotten, save for the introductory segment of the game sine ME1 will stay 360/PC exclusive (published by Microsoft).

You should add me on PSN, by the by, I don't think I've added you. PSNID = Jumplion.

Actually I am in Canada where the price jumped by $10 back last year (which makes no sense anymore since our dollars are pretty much even we still get boned). I even remember the first game I bought that did it. Spiderman Web of Shadows published by you know who.

And you do realize if it wasn't for people like me who bought it on day 1 there wouldn't be GOTYs. We support them and they flip us the bird. At least when Fallout put out the GOTY they offered those of us who bought the DLC a simple thank you gift. Just a theme mind you but that doesn't matter. It is the thought that counts.

This is what I can't wrap my head around. They need us to buy their games at launch. That is where they make their money. Instead of encouraging new sales they seem to be doing the exact opposite. Then they start with the excuses as to why their game didn't do as well as they hoped. Piracy, used games companies, the economy (all of which are factors no doubt). There is alot of finger pointing going on but they don't see the three fingers pointing right back at them. 3rd party devs should not be encouraging the console wars. If MS or Sony offers them a billion dollars for exclusive DLC for their console they should be saying no thanks. It is harmful for us in the long run. Just like it isn't helpful for the store exclusive DLC. Either people will preorder, get code and cancel or some will sell it on Ebay for 20 bucks. And all for what exactly? So that only some have that content while others don't even though we all paid the same. It all seems illogical. I would say even harmful.

And my PSN handle is squidward5580. I'll send you an FR next time I'm on.

 

[Dr. wonderful]

Well, come January, Happy Birthday to me then.

Really? Happy Birthmonth to both of us.

 

[chuckman1]

Well Mass Effect 1 isn't coming to PS3 so i won't get it since u can't choose your story up to the beginning of ME2.

 

[Jumplion]

Actually I am in Canada where the price jumped by $10 back last year (which makes no sense anymore since our dollars are pretty much even we still get boned). I even remember the first game I bought that did it. Spiderman Web of Shadows published by you know who.

Damn, sucks for America Jr. I do remember a time when games in general just cost $40-$50 instead of $60. Oh, the days...

And you do realize if it wasn't for people like me who bought it on day 1 there wouldn't be GOTYs. We support them and they flip us the bird. At least when Fallout put out the GOTY they offered those of us who bought the DLC a simple thank you gift. Just a theme mind you but that doesn't matter. It is the thought that counts.

I'm sorry, so developers shouldn't entice late adopters to join in on the franchise, therefore generating more "day-one" purchasers for their next game?

Again, electronics industry. Early adoption. More expensive. You get it immediately. Or wait. Possible GotY edition. Or on another console. You made the decision. You made the choice. Stop trying to spoil other people's joy over finally getting one game of a critically acclaimed franchise with a little extra content because you decided to buy the game sooner. People like you (in general, again not trying to insult you, but I am losing my patience) are being complete buzzkills to this.

Optymystic is completely right here, game value goes down as times goes on, but the game was worth it to you for a first day purchase regardless. That was your decision, but now you apparently regret it your decision because now the game will go to another system with a little extra content as compensation for the wait when it will be launched a year after you bought it. Why can't you enjoy the game now? You clearly have, why complain about good news for gamers in general?

Again, the Ps3 has been dealing with this shit since it was launched, but when a few games do this on the 360 suddenly it's "backstabbing" to the "loyal" fanbase and "dishonest" and "ripping off the consumer" or some stupid reason. You're butthurt because your decided to spend a little extra dough on a game you loved but then found out you could wait a full year before the second game comes out on the PS3 to get it for less? What about all the save files that everyones buzzkilling on the PS3? Clearly you wouldn't be able to transfer your saves anyway.

This is what I can't wrap my head around. They need us to buy their games at launch. That is where they make their money. Instead of encouraging new sales they seem to be doing the exact opposite. Then they start with the excuses as to why their game didn't do as well as they hoped. Piracy, used games companies, the economy (all of which are factors no doubt). There is alot of finger pointing going on but they don't see the three fingers pointing right back at them.

You are making a friggin' Mt. Olympus out of a anthill, I have never seen Bioware complain about anything with piracy, used game sales, or the economy. They are encouraging late adopters to come to their franchise, their company, so they can further expand their audience.

And we're not going to go into Piracy, that's a whole 'nuther can of worms and I don't want to go through that swamp.

3rd party devs should not be encouraging the console wars. If MS or Sony offers them a billion dollars for exclusive DLC for their console they should be saying no thanks. It is harmful for us in the long run. Just like it isn't helpful for the store exclusive DLC. Either people will preorder, get code and cancel or some will sell it on Ebay for 20 bucks. And all for what exactly? So that only some have that content while others don't even though we all paid the same. It all seems illogical. I would say even harmful.

Yes, how dare Bioware accept a gratuitous amount of money for the benefit of their company. If one of the Big Guys offers them an exclusive deal contract, and the reward is more beneficial to accept it than not, that's just goddamn business.

You are blowing Bioware's "harmfulness" completely out of the ocean, jumping the gun way too fast to condemn them, and being an overall buzzkill to what is supposed to be a grand announcement to a whole section of the gaming public who never got a chance to play any of the Mass Effect games. And they/we finaly are, at least the second one, we don't even get the full series yet.

So you could say that the, what, $30 total DLC that's being included in the PS3 version is also compensation for not getting the first, $60 game in the franchise.

And my PSN handle is squidward5580. I'll send you an FR next time I'm on.

M'kay, I'll add you when I get on my PS3 (who says chivalry's dead? )


Really, I'm trying my best to stay calm and civil here, but I'm really losing my patience. I'm just repeating the same thing over and over and you don't seem to get it and vice versa for you to me. I would love to continue this conversation via PM, but we're really just going in circles here.

 

[Optimystic]

Yes except it will still be on the same platform. It isn't like Blizzard is favoring one over the other. And them telling us not to be early adopters by making it more attractive later doesn't help them now. If SC2 doesn't sell because everyone knows there will be a battlechest later on then what?

But that's just it; Everyone does know that. You know it, I know it, and everybody who's already bought SC2 knows that there will be a Battlechest at some point that will most likely be a better value than buying all the campaigns separately. They bought it anyway, so clearly that knowledge doesn't have quite as big an impact as you think it will.

There will always be early adopters - always people who line up for the big titles/systems at launch day, who pre-order, even those who rent when they can't afford to buy and pay for the DLC separately. Rereleases didn't slow down Blizzard, and they won't slow down Bioware.

 

[squid5580]

Yes except it will still be on the same platform. It isn't like Blizzard is favoring one over the other. And them telling us not to be early adopters by making it more attractive later doesn't help them now. If SC2 doesn't sell because everyone knows there will be a battlechest later on then what?

But that's just it; Everyone does know that. You know it, I know it, and everybody who's already bought SC2 knows that there will be a Battlechest at some point that will most likely be a better value than buying all the campaigns separately. They bought it anyway, so clearly that knowledge doesn't have quite as big an impact as you think it will.

There will always be early adopters - always people who line up for the big titles/systems at launch day, who pre-order, even those who rent when they can't afford to buy and pay for the DLC separately. Rereleases didn't slow down Blizzard, and they won't slow down Bioware.

You are trying to compare apples to bananas here. It isn't rereleases that bother me. Platinum hits or greatest hits don't bother me. I am an old school gamer. I remember when all gamers were treated equal no matter which console they owned, no matter where they bought the game from, we all got the same game. That would be like me bitching because I bought a new game then a month later I find the same game used in some bargain bin. That is not the issue here. What bothers me is when I have to choose between an extra mission or better graphics. Or how about being denied content because of the country you live in or the area you live that may not have the right store. When I can't buy a game on day 1 anymore because I don't know which console will get the better "exclusive" DLC that is the problem. Sooner or later there is going to be less early adopters and more who wait because of this foolishness. Especially when almost every day I log on here there is another article about something dooming the industry. Yet the fact they no longer treat us equally or the fact we get half assed rushed games that need to be patched never comes up. It is always piracy, used games or the economy. Well I am tired of it. I am tired of taking all the blame being a gamer. It is time for them to "nut up or shut up" because frankly at this point I got enough games that I can wait for as long as I need to so they don't see a dime from me (not just Bioware all of them that pull this crap) and ensure Gamestop gets all the profits. Because by then I will know which one will get what and I can make an informed decision like a consumer should.

 

[katsabas]

I was never into the 1st ME. One could say cause of Yahtzee's review but mostly because I do not have a good gaming PC. When everyone started tossing perfect scores I wanted to see why. Started watching reviews, gameplays and getting informed on the story in order to go buy the 2nd one along with a new graphics card for it as well as for Portal 2. Now, I can save me money on all fronts! VAN GUARD! VZZZZZZZZOOOOOOMZZZBAAAAAAFF!

 

[Phoenixlight]

Meh I really don't care so I won't bother getting it on my P.S.3.

 

[Optimystic]

You are trying to compare apples to bananas here. It isn't rereleases that bother me. Platinum hits or greatest hits don't bother me. I am an old school gamer. I remember when all gamers were treated equal no matter which console they owned, no matter where they bought the game from, we all got the same game. That would be like me bitching because I bought a new game then a month later I find the same game used in some bargain bin. That is not the issue here. What bothers me is when I have to choose between an extra mission or better graphics. Or how about being denied content because of the country you live in or the area you live that may not have the right store. When I can't buy a game on day 1 anymore because I don't know which console will get the better "exclusive" DLC that is the problem.

Aren't you jumping the gun a bit? You have no idea what "exclusive content" they are getting, nor do you know if that content either (a) isn't already available to 360/PC players or (b) won't ever be available in any form.

I think we should wait until we know more, then get worked up if things are as you fear.

 

[squid5580]

You are trying to compare apples to bananas here. It isn't rereleases that bother me. Platinum hits or greatest hits don't bother me. I am an old school gamer. I remember when all gamers were treated equal no matter which console they owned, no matter where they bought the game from, we all got the same game. That would be like me bitching because I bought a new game then a month later I find the same game used in some bargain bin. That is not the issue here. What bothers me is when I have to choose between an extra mission or better graphics. Or how about being denied content because of the country you live in or the area you live that may not have the right store. When I can't buy a game on day 1 anymore because I don't know which console will get the better "exclusive" DLC that is the problem.

Aren't you jumping the gun a bit? You have no idea what "exclusive content" they are getting, nor do you know if that content either (a) isn't already available to 360/PC players or (b) won't ever be available in any form.

I think we should wait until we know more, then get worked up if things are as you fear.

Do you not understand what the word "exclusive" means?

 

[ineedscissors]

FUUUUUUUUCK YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!11!!!!111!!!!!!!!!11!!11!!!11

 

[Jumplion]

Do you not understand what the word "exclusive" means?

Yes, and there's no use of the word in the original article in regards to the DLC.

 

[Optimystic]

Do you not understand what the word "exclusive" means?

It's not an absolute term in this business, my good chum. A trailer is exclusive until other sites reupload it. The Cerberus Network stuff was (and still is) marketed as "exclusive" [http://masseffect.bioware.com/info/cerberus/] to the people who bought the game new, but the renters and used purchasers were still able to pay for access to that content separately.

You are assuming "PS3 Exclusive" means "Xbox owners will never be able to get this content ever in the history of ever." That is what I am calling jumping the gun.

EDIT: Also, what Jumplion said.

 

[squid5580]

Do you not understand what the word "exclusive" means?

Yes, and there's no use of the word in the original article in regards to the DLC.

Because they never said DLC in the article. They said "exclusive bonus content" not exclusive DLC.

 

[Jumplion]

Do you not understand what the word "exclusive" means?

Yes, and there's no use of the word in the original article in regards to the DLC.

Because they never said DLC in the article. They said "exclusive bonus content" not exclusive DLC.

No.

The PS3 release of ME2 will include the full game as it appeared on the 360 and PC, and hours of bonus content, which EA says will make it the perfect introduction to the series. Exactly what this bonus content is isn't clear at this time. It could be some of the DLC that has been already released for the game, or something that fills in the gaps for those who haven't played the first Mass Effect. I've contacted EA for clarification on this point, so hopefully I'll be able to update you soon.

I don't see "exclusive bonus content". And we don't know what the content is.

You are overreacting out of nothing. Wait until the bonus content is revealed, then you can potentially complain.

 

[DaggerOfCompassion]

Goddamnit. Now, I'm a PC gamer, but I think if PS3 gets cool exclusives like Infamous, Uncharted, Rachet and Clank, LBP, Modnation racers, etc, then the 360 should get Halo, Mass Effect at least.

 

[Iron_Stalker]

As happy as I am about us PS3 owners getting ME2,I still won't get the ps3 version. I'll get it for another system, I'll have a 360 soon, and I might get a PC that doesn't suck. And then I'll buy and beat Mass Effect 1 several times.

I really like the idea of crafting your own adventure, and having that carry over to the next game. And I can't do that without ME1. And if I want to continue my save on Mass Effect 2, I'd have to purchase the game on the same console.

So I guess that means no Mass Effect 2 PS3 for me.

 

[The Giggling Pin]

Good for the PS3 owners out there. I enjoyed the game and I hope that they do too.

I really hate the way that people get all bent out of shape because the console that isn't theirs is getting something that was exclusive to them. I don't like any exclusive at all. I would like all games to be available on all formats because I chose the 360 as it was all i could afford and oh how i do miss God of War. I guess I shall just have to wait till the PS3 costs £100 and i can pick it up then!

 

[mrmash]

Sorry if I've already been ninja'd, but it seems like people think ME2 is only half as good without importing a save, which couldn't be further from the truth. The save import was cool and fun, but to be honest, I still would have had an extremely fun time without the save import.

I think some of us are a little bitter, haha.