Mass Effect 2's Nudity Level Decided by Dictatorship
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They should have had more graphics sex scenes in ME2 just to stick it to Fox. Or they could have at least SHOWN TALIS FACE! I want to know what Quarians look like under those masks 
On the next Psycho Celebrity Deathmatch: Woo vs Bunky the Wonder Clown! Who will get their nose honked for the last time?
I can respect his position, even though he took a pretzel path to get to it. I for one am not going to get Mass Effect 2 for its sex. I wants it for the action!
[sub]I'll get Heavy Rain for its sex.[/sub]
I can respect his position, even though he took a pretzel path to get to it. I for one am not going to get Mass Effect 2 for its sex. I wants it for the action!
[sub]I'll get Heavy Rain for its sex.[/sub]
Hmm, it's a hard thing to really comment on.
Mass Effect 1's love scenes were a bit cringe worthy because of the models, and they felt a bit hollow. Mass Effect 2's romances were a thousand times better - From what I've seen of the ones I've not experienced, they're all really emotionally charged. I don't think I'd have liked to see FemShep try to play Buckaroo with Garrus, but on the other hand I felt like it was a bit of a let down. FemShep didn't even kiss him! I would rather they'd have done a little more "physical stuff" instead of the post-final mission bowlacks we currently have. I'm sorry, BioWare, but I don't think ":|" is the face anyone would have in their lover's arms.
But as for Mr Woo's comments about a dictatorship? I have massive respect for BioWare (I've lost hundreds of hours to their games), and I think that it was an utterly disgusting comment for one of their employees to say. Yes, I agree it's up to BioWare what goes into their games, but it shouldn't be a "dictatorship". We are the ones who buy the games and as an extension of that, we're the ones who fund the merchandise, the sequels, the patches, the DLC etc, so what we want should be at least respected and not treated like rubbish.
If you set a standard with your games, you should stick to it, and I think BioWare need to tread carefully with ME3 if they want to keep the support of customers. Anyone who's kept upto date with ME2 and the Social Network forums will know there's a lot of rage against BioWare for basically sidelining homosexual relationships (Kelly is a fling in their eyes, not a romance/relationship).
Mass Effect 1's love scenes were a bit cringe worthy because of the models, and they felt a bit hollow. Mass Effect 2's romances were a thousand times better - From what I've seen of the ones I've not experienced, they're all really emotionally charged. I don't think I'd have liked to see FemShep try to play Buckaroo with Garrus, but on the other hand I felt like it was a bit of a let down. FemShep didn't even kiss him! I would rather they'd have done a little more "physical stuff" instead of the post-final mission bowlacks we currently have. I'm sorry, BioWare, but I don't think ":|" is the face anyone would have in their lover's arms.
But as for Mr Woo's comments about a dictatorship? I have massive respect for BioWare (I've lost hundreds of hours to their games), and I think that it was an utterly disgusting comment for one of their employees to say. Yes, I agree it's up to BioWare what goes into their games, but it shouldn't be a "dictatorship". We are the ones who buy the games and as an extension of that, we're the ones who fund the merchandise, the sequels, the patches, the DLC etc, so what we want should be at least respected and not treated like rubbish.
If you set a standard with your games, you should stick to it, and I think BioWare need to tread carefully with ME3 if they want to keep the support of customers. Anyone who's kept upto date with ME2 and the Social Network forums will know there's a lot of rage against BioWare for basically sidelining homosexual relationships (Kelly is a fling in their eyes, not a romance/relationship).
I like the part where the developer stuck it to the annoying internet fanboy.
I still feel that a sex scene is totally unnecessary in a game. You can show that two people had sex without having to actually show them physical gyrating against each other. I also like how Woo stuck it to the immature twats who keep saying "MOR BEWBS!" and keep implying (or saying) "DO WHA I SAY ITS MO BETTER!". Some people need to learn that just because you like a game, that does not make it yours, it is still the sole property of the owner to use and abuse as he likes.
I still feel that a sex scene is totally unnecessary in a game. You can show that two people had sex without having to actually show them physical gyrating against each other. I also like how Woo stuck it to the immature twats who keep saying "MOR BEWBS!" and keep implying (or saying) "DO WHA I SAY ITS MO BETTER!". Some people need to learn that just because you like a game, that does not make it yours, it is still the sole property of the owner to use and abuse as he likes.
Don't agree there. Sometimes a good sex scene can almost make the story. Consider Sam Lowry's scene in Brazil, or for a more complete action Wild Things, Cruel Intention, Rear Window, The Hunger or even Brokeback Mountain.Tom Goldman said:
Granted, 9 times out of 10 they're only titillation, and 8.5 of those are simply pink bits flapping like grunting turkeys; but I wouldn't be too quick to disregard the idea of a powerful sex scene.
Woo always did strike me as being more than a bit of an ass on the forums. His attitude has always rubbed me the wrong way. I mean, technically he's right, Bioware puts what they want in the game, we decide to buy it or not. But if Bioware gets too uppity and doesn't listen to the audience at all, they will find themselves selling a lot fewer games. From that point of view, the game creation is a collaborative process... if they are smart.
Regardless, it was a pretty arrogant way to say "We really felt this was the best way to do this for the game". That's really all he needed to say to justify the whole thing. But I've sort of always perceived him as being kind of an arrogant sort. That whole "End of line!" crap he posts on every thread he locks just pisses me off for some reason.
Regardless, it was a pretty arrogant way to say "We really felt this was the best way to do this for the game". That's really all he needed to say to justify the whole thing. But I've sort of always perceived him as being kind of an arrogant sort. That whole "End of line!" crap he posts on every thread he locks just pisses me off for some reason.
seeing as how there is an uncut and somewhat more expicit version of the miranda scene floating around, it's safe to say stuf did get censored.
If you want to see bewbs go browse the internet. Im pretty sure its not hard to find as about 90% of the internet is porn. I loved Mass Effect and had no problem with the lack of cleavage shown. I just wish there was some extra added benefit to getting one of the characters in the sack, like an extra ability from them in combat or something.
Amen to that. The one thing that Bioware seems to have a consistent problem with is animation... particularly when they try to get characters to go shag.Amnestic said:
At least ME2's scene with Tali (while being annoying from the retcon standpoint) is somewhat tolerable thanks to it looking like people would actually hold each other in such a manner.
Understood, Woo. It's your game, until it's released. At that point we can judge it, complain about it, criticise it, or adore it. That's when it becomes our game, you see.
Now, would you like to explain the deep artistic reasoning behind getting rid of all homosexual options this time around?
Now, would you like to explain the deep artistic reasoning behind getting rid of all homosexual options this time around?