Microsoft Twitter-Zings Activision Over PC Gaming

Andy Chalk

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Microsoft Twitter-Zings Activision Over PC Gaming


The Games for Windows [http://www.gamesforwindows.com/] guys unleashed a wicked Twitter zing at Activision over Bobby Kotick's claim that the publisher wants to "aggressively support" efforts to bring "gamer friendly" PCs into the living room.

Financial Times [http://www.microsoft.com] last week that his company plans to "aggressively support" efforts by HP and Dell to connect PCs to televisions in order to break the "walled gardens" created by game consoles.

"Acti supports PC gaming?" came the quick-witted response on the official Games for Windows Twitter [http://twitter.com/WindowsGamer/status/17813377010] blog. "Is it April already?"

Cute and pointed without being overly harsh, but as embarrassing irrelevance [http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/07/06/games-for-windows-takes-pop-at-activision/].

Nice zinger, though.


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Woodsey

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I guess this means that the guys over at GfW think they're doing a good job then.

Morons.
 

Jack and Calumon

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That's cool and all, but why am I seeing a super mutant's head explode? I'd prefer to see Soap's Head explode, which would make sense.

Also, Master Chief hitting someone. He looks good when he does that.

Calumon: Not as good as Gordan!
 
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I really want GFWL to start kicking off already... streamline the client, add cross platform party support, get a good list of games and developers signed on then you're ready to go and my GFWL client won't sit there with 3 games overall.
 

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ive lost all hope for microsoft. after the kinect announcement and the frustratingly dim points system on xbox live, im kinda hoping the xbox franchise will be handed off to a company that takes advice and doesnt have their head stuck up their asses 24/7. so it really comes as no surprise that they are drawing attention by zinging a successful and large company.
 

DaxStrife

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So Microsoft sounds like it wants to support the PC, but forgot it needs to publish playable games first. ;-)
 

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So...Activision is pro-PC too? Don't I recall them being pro-PS3 as well recently? Or was that someone else?

At this point it sounds almost as if they're turning into their own version of yes-men.

EDIT: Bah...apparently I added to the rumor-machine. :p Nah, they were dissapointed in PS3 (or at least Bobby Kotick was) and now it seems they want to latch onto Microsoft and they're saying in a smug high-school girl kinda way 'Pschhhh as iiiif!"
 

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Microsoft zings Activision?

Obviously a hint to their new game "Insult Master"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6xCtNZMAnU&feature=related
 

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Well if they are going to start a fight over who "wins" us, I'd prefer it to be Microsoft. We know how they will screw us over, Acti will most likely do it in new and evil ways that would make Ubi jealous.
 

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Andy Chalk said:
Activision has put out a very respectable catalog of PC games in the past few years,
Those typically horrible console ports barely qualify as games, and could hardly be called "respectable".
 

Andy Chalk

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Bunch of hypocrites. Activision hasn't really brought out respectable ports towards the PC. So liek, no. No No NO. Both parties are just wrong.

Games for Windows suck and is just crusty old shaait. Activision remains someone I boycot 'till the end of time until something remarkable happens.

Kane & Lynch aren't high profile games, just saying, can't see you bothered using that to prove your point.
 

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Andy Chalk said:
Cute and pointed without being overly harsh, but as embarrassing irrelevance [http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/07/06/games-for-windows-takes-pop-at-activision/].
Too bad Activision/Infinity Ward shot down their own credibility by making Modern Warfare 2 one of the biggest disgraces in PC gaming by essentially turning it into a "walled garden".

Microsoft may not be much better, but it is a fitting response regardless.
 

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Doesn't matter what Microsoft does, the response is still valid. As far as I can see they didn't claim to be doing a better job of supporting PCs. Also, the list of titles Activision has put out may be impressive, but the list of stuff they did to fuck PC gamers over is even more impressive.

Also, I will never connect my PC to a TV!
 
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Well even though GFWL is completely pants Activision has been an utter disgrace to PC gaming lately and I couldn't believe it was doing it at the time.
 

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I'm glad that this Microsoft guy is there to tell us what real windows gamers really think in a official manner rather than reading the disreputable words of unofficial, soi-disant pc gamers on the rest of the net.
 

Andy Chalk

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Jack and Calumon said:
That's cool and all, but why am I seeing a super mutant's head explode? I'd prefer to see Soap's Head explode, which would make sense.

Also, Master Chief hitting someone. He looks good when he does that.

Calumon: Not as good as Gordan!
What about them (John and Gordon) fighting huge hordes of Combine, Zombies, Flood and Covenant while back to back?
 

Andy Chalk

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HK_01 said:
Doesn't matter what Microsoft does, the response is still valid. As far as I can see they didn't claim to be doing a better job of supporting PCs. Also, the list of titles Activision has put out may be impressive, but the list of stuff they did to fuck PC gamers over is even more impressive.

Also, I will never connect my PC to a TV!
I think they were meaning making games that join the PC gamers to console gamers.

Also, hooking up your PC to your TV is pretty awesome, its like having a 42" LCD monitor......which it kinda is..........

I had no idea where I was going with that.............
 

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I''m not sure if I'm supposed to be amazed by this or just mildly neutral.
 

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Microsoft does more to support PC gaming than Activision simply by being responsible for Windows, as far as I'm concerned.

Never mind Games for Windows Live.

And even if they didn't, it doesn't make any criticism of Activision any less valid. Accusations of hypocrisy and implications of its effects on credibility are so irritatingly fallacious. Nintendo could have tweeted the same just as well as Intel. What does it matter what the source of the tweet has done for PC gaming?

Also, TVs make terrible gaming displays unless you're blind to everything but size....
 

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Tension between Activision and Microsoft seems high these days. With Activision trying to weasel their way into Microsoft's XBox Live subscription profits, and now with Microsoft taking cheap shots, it's turning out to be quite a show.

Hang on, just gotta make some popcorn.
 

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The only reason Activision wants to support games on a PC is so they can create their own version of Steam/Impulse/whatever and charge people to play Activision's games (read: Call of Duty) online. Microsoft's getting all that sweet, sweet cash from Live subscriptions and Activision wants a piece.
 

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If "Twitter-Zing" becomes a real term, I will find you Andy Chalk...
Won't be hard. Just follow the trail of review scores :D

So does this mean they will scrap the "always on" DRM?
 

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GamesB2 said:
I really want GFWL to start kicking off already... streamline the client, add cross platform party support, get a good list of games and developers signed on then you're ready to go and my GFWL client won't sit there with 3 games overall.
I'd rather it died and went away. At the time of writing I've not been able to play anything online that uses GfWL in about two months, and I'll be buggered if I can fix it. Add to that a terrible client, Microsoft Spacebucks(TM) for buying stuff and a broken system in general. Yea, it should just die.
 

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doesn't GFWL have like... dawn of war II? at least it has some decent PC games in there. It not perfect but its pretty fun to see a predator tank blow a chaos space marine into fleshy bits. and at least MS is doing something decent, however small, cant say the same for that mw2 s*** that activision decided to f** up
 

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Activision does have the biggest PC game out there: World of Warcraft, with Starcraft 2 soon to be released.
 

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Pebsy said:
doesn't GFWL have like... dawn of war II? at least it has some decent PC games in there. It not perfect but its pretty fun to see a predator tank blow a chaos space marine into fleshy bits. and at least MS is doing something decent, however small, cant say the same for that mw2 s*** that activision decided to f** up
Dawn Of War is steam.

OP. While Activision do have quite a few games out on pc i would not say they support the PC, they just port everything across quickly and cheaply and say fix it yourself once they have your $60.

And until microsoft actually does something i aint going to believe a word they say.

So they are both full of crap unless one of them actually steps up and puts their money were their mouth is sometime soon.
 

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Yeah, sure they "support" PC gaming, especially with MW2, that really really did. I think the only reason they want to "support" PC gaming is because they bought Blizzard, and Blizzard right now is making them lots of moola.
 

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Microsoft first killed Ensemble Studios, the makers of some of my favorite PC games of all time, but not before forcing them to make console-only Halo Wars. Strike 1.

Then Microsoft made Halo 3+Reach (the others are bollucks and matter not) Xbox360 exclusives, especially Reach. Strike 2.

Then, they stopped being on the radar for games period which is kind of a set back, so strike 3.

Activision has its own problems. Up to the early 2000s they were a respectable company, but then turned evil. Everything they PUBLISH is console aimed now and are ported from there, which will make Crysis 2 and Portal 2 fun since they are ports of PC games for a change, and WoW does not count since those are not gamers, they are slaves.
 

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well seeing as how MS's vision of "supporting PC gaming" is creating a dodgy Steam knock off with an irritating drm system, that sometimes has to be used ON TOP OF steam...
well... they can hardly talk...
 

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As spotty as Microsfts support for GfW has been, I'll side with folks who let be collect Gamerscore from the PC version of FO3 over the side that deliberately crippled CoDs PC features so they could charge $15 for a map pack.
 

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Activision is Activision-Blizzard. Blizzard. Makers of Warcraft. And Starcraft. And Diablo. So yeah. I think in this case, Microsoft doesn't have much of a leg to stand on, amusingly enough. Go corporate mergers and acquisitions! Victory by default!
 

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Woodsey said:
I guess this means that the guys over at GfW think they're doing a good job then.

Morons.
Sup, dog. I'm just here to let you know that Microsoft is doing plenty for PC gaming, more than the local favorite, Valve. Not only are they bringing Fable 3 to the PC, but they are resurrecting an old franchise as well, Flight Sim LIVE. In addition to that, the folks the used to work at Ensemble, Robot Entertainment, are working on at least one game with Microsoft, with the possibility of one more. The one we know about is called 'Spartan'.

In yet another addition to my previous points, Microsoft is also revamping the GFWL store. More and more games are being consistently added, along with more developers throwing in their support for GFWL. GFWL will be a top competitor to Steam, eventually knocking it off of its throne.

It only makes you look bad when you are uninformed like that.

TheComedown said:
Pebsy said:
doesn't GFWL have like... dawn of war II? at least it has some decent PC games in there. It not perfect but its pretty fun to see a predator tank blow a chaos space marine into fleshy bits. and at least MS is doing something decent, however small, cant say the same for that mw2 s*** that activision decided to f** up
Dawn Of War is steam.

OP. While Activision do have quite a few games out on pc i would not say they support the PC, they just port everything across quickly and cheaply and say fix it yourself once they have your $60.

And until microsoft actually does something i aint going to believe a word they say.

So they are both full of crap unless one of them actually steps up and puts their money were their mouth is sometime soon.
Dawn of War II uses both Steam and GFWL. Steam is only for activation, while GFWL is for all the multiplayer parts and community features, like achievements. As for the rest of your post, read what I said to the other guy.
 

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LoganN said:
Sup, dog. I'm just here to let you know that Microsoft is doing plenty for PC gaming, more than the local favorite, Valve. Not only are they bringing Fable 3 to the PC, but they are resurrecting an old franchise as well, Flight Sim LIVE. In addition to that, the folks the used to work at Ensemble, Robot Entertainment, are working on at least one game with Microsoft, with the possibility of one more. The one we know about is called 'Spartan'.

In yet another addition to my previous points, Microsoft is also revamping the GFWL store. More and more games are being consistently added, along with more developers throwing in their support for GFWL. GFWL will be a top competitor to Steam, eventually knocking it off of its throne.

It only makes you look bad when you are uninformed like that.
Fable 3, the skipped out on 2, what if you are one of many and like to follow the whole series? To little to late. On top of that, a flight sim, they already have their very niche audience and is generally irrelevant to the larger PC gaming community, and what? 1 maybe 2 more games coming out? so 4 games? if we are lucky and all of a sudden we are supposed to worship Microsoft again?

They wont knock of Steam for a very very long time, steam still has its users and most aint going anywhere soon, Valve didn't fuck off for a few years and say here use this piece of broken shit till we feel like we need your money again.

And all that revamping and stuff? yeah the steam store has been working fine for years, imo again its another matter of too little WAY too late.
 

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TheComedown said:
LoganN said:
Sup, dog. I'm just here to let you know that Microsoft is doing plenty for PC gaming, more than the local favorite, Valve. Not only are they bringing Fable 3 to the PC, but they are resurrecting an old franchise as well, Flight Sim LIVE. In addition to that, the folks the used to work at Ensemble, Robot Entertainment, are working on at least one game with Microsoft, with the possibility of one more. The one we know about is called 'Spartan'.

In yet another addition to my previous points, Microsoft is also revamping the GFWL store. More and more games are being consistently added, along with more developers throwing in their support for GFWL. GFWL will be a top competitor to Steam, eventually knocking it off of its throne.

It only makes you look bad when you are uninformed like that.
Fable 3, the skipped out on 2, what if you are one of many and like to follow the whole series? To little to late. On top of that, a flight sim, they already have their very niche audience and is generally irrelevant to the larger PC gaming community, and what? 1 maybe 2 more games coming out? so 4 games? if we are lucky and all of a sudden we are supposed to worship Microsoft again?

They wont knock of Steam for a very very long time, steam still has its users and most aint going anywhere soon, Valve didn't fuck off for a few years and say here use this piece of broken shit till we feel like need your money again.

And all that revamping and stuff? yeah the steam store has been working fine for years, imo again its another matter of too little WAY too late.
Are you saying you would rather them release nothing and do nothing for the sake of PC gaming?
 

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LoganN said:
Are you saying you would rather them release nothing and do nothing for the sake of PC gaming?
No. What I am saying what they are not doing enough and they are doing it too late.
They have taken a step in the right direction, but its not going to be anything big or major that is going to "save" PC gaming(not that it needs saving) and it certainly wont knock steam down, they aren't doing anything that hasn't already been done by Valve/Steam or another distribution service such as impulse.
 

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TheComedown said:
LoganN said:
Are you saying you would rather them release nothing and do nothing for the sake of PC gaming?
No. What I am saying what they are not doing enough and they are doing it too late.
They have taken a step in the right direction, but its not going to be anything big or major that is going to "save" PC gaming(not that it needs saving) and it certainly wont knock steam down, they aren't doing anything that hasn't already been done by Valve/Steam or another distribution service such as impulse.
Not doing enough? I don't think you have any idea what you are talking about. DirectX alone is enough to blow that out of the window(s). Sure, they lag behind in the digital distribution field, but they have done more for PC gaming than Valve can ever hope to. The most iconic franchises ever created are because of Microsoft. Age of Empires, Flight Sim, Mechwarrior, ect. Don't forget the free development tools like XNA and Visual Basic. LIVE Anywhere is another step, and that isn't just for PC gaming. It is for social networking overall.

I think you are upset because Microsoft is actually serious about PC gaming again, and that is bad news for Valve.