Miyamoto: Don't Blame the Economy, Blame Unfun Games

[MegaManOfNumbers]

Bravo, Truth has been spoken.

 

[The Cake Is Annoying]

I can't say I've gotten consistent results with DosBox (which means your tech skills are probably better than mine). But the way I look at GOG is this: say I want to play Duke3D. I could pirate it and try and DosBox it and hope it works smoothly, and if it doesn't (a real possibility) then post on a DosBox forum and wait for a reply while I keep at trial and error... or pay GOG ?5 or 6.

I suppose its paying for convenience, but then again much of the draw of Napster and the other early filesharing networks was convenience too. Perhaps piracy and services like GOG that can compete on convenience side-by-side, games devs get paid and lawsuit drama may dry up.

I still think 5 or 6$ is a bit much for what they actually do with some games, but if it's just for convenience I can understand.

Yeah. $5 multiplied by every sale probably amounts to a good amount of profit; what they do can't be more expensive than developing their own titles. But considering 5 euro won't even buy my a pint in many pubs in Dublin city it does look like a laughably cheap price for hours of fun.

Although it is improbable any actual game dev will see a cent of your money, and since it's a fringe market don't expect your purchases to weight on the publishers decision to finally realease Duke nukem forever for example; unless the mainstream market flock en masse on GoG, even then I wouldn't bet on it.

True that, GOG is backward looking in that respect, and would perhaps even benefit if there was a video games industry crash like there was in 1983. But then there's always Steam with Pop Cap and Introversion.

As for Duke Nukem Forever? Well, the special edition would need to enclose a voucher for a stripclub if that game is ever going to justify the wait!

 

[Casual Shinji]

I know I'll probably get stoned by the rabid fanbase for saying this. But the reason the Wii is so succesfull is NOT because of fun games, but because of casual crap like Wii Sports and Wii Fit.

Then again, Miyamoto is a man who thinks that standing on a scale is fun.

 

[Treblaine]

Wii 2008:
-Mario Kart Wii
-Super Smash Bros. Brawl
-Wario Land The Shake Dimension

-No More heroes
-Okami

Wii 2009:
-New Super Mario Bros. Wii

-HOTD: overkill
-Muramasa
-That's pretty much it

Wii 2010:
-Zelda?
-Mario Galaxy 2
-Metroid: other M
-Sin and Punishment 2
-The Last Story

-Monster Hunter Tri
-Tatsunoko Vs Capcom
-No More Heroes 2
-Red Steel 2

Yeah 2009 was a pretty shitty year for Wii owners but DAMN is it picking it up this year. I don't know if the recession may have caused it but Nintendo just had a craptacular line-up though N-SMB-Wii was not terrible, I can see any Wii owners feeling VERY wanting as a game like that is really just a little side morsel.

Regarding delivery systems - Steam is helping small software companies - Introversion Software accredit Steam for their continued existence. And even if you don't like new games, a similar service (Good Old Games) makes sure you can get older titles cheaply for the PC with reliable compatibility - which is something that even piracy doesn't offer.

GoG does nothing that a motivated gamer can't do (after more or less efforts depending on the games); but the mass of those who can't be bothered to understand the DosBox and learn minor tech skills represent a big market potential.

I tried! And I still can't get so many games to work with proper sound though I found building my own PC a doddle in comparison.

Blood is one of those games that I REALLY want to play because I love that 90's occult shtich but it has been the hardest thing in the world to get working and need at LEAST a Core 2 Due to function well at all. Sound is buggy, frame rate plummets for no reason. The thing is it CAN work in dosbox but needs a couple dozen fixes, tweaks and optimisations... why does each user have to go through all that when if it was re-released on GOG all the little necessary tweaks could be made at once by ONE person who knows exactly what they are doing.

 

[Aesir23]

I have to admit I haven't been too fond of the selection of Nintendo's games on the Wii (Until Darkside Chronicles came out at least). But Miyamoto is a god in my eyes.

That said.... I want a Master Sword. Luckily, there's a local sword shop that has one.

 

[Quiet Stranger]

All I can get from this is that he thought that 2009`s games sucked, is this true?

 

[hobo_welf]

I just think it's hilarious that the gaming company creating consoles on which the majority of shitty games coming out recently are played on is owned by the guy talking about shitty games.

 

[Jared]

No arguments here. Too many franchises and not enough new ideas.

Agreed. Its all well and good to try and live off one...but we like variety and throing out all the same old stuff just...isnt exciting, heh

 

[incal11]

Yeah. $5 multiplied by every sale probably amounts to a good amount of profit; what they do can't be more expensive than developing their own titles. But considering 5 euro won't even buy my a pint in many pubs in Dublin city it does look like a laughably cheap price for hours of fun.

They are making huge profits for a few tweaks, that's hardly equivalent to developping even a small retro game.
It's not fundamentaly wrong to be nosy, but thei're not getting me

I tried! And I still can't get so many games to work with proper sound though I found building my own PC a doddle in comparison.

Blood is one of those games that I REALLY want to play because I love that 90's occult shtich but it has been the hardest thing in the world to get working and need at LEAST a Core 2 Due to function well at all. Sound is buggy, frame rate plummets for no reason. The thing is it CAN work in dosbox but needs a couple dozen fixes, tweaks and optimisations... why does each user have to go through all that when if it was re-released on GOG all the little necessary tweaks could be made at once by ONE person who knows exactly what they are doing.

I had loads of fun with Blood too (super hard game, finding all the secrets is a real challenge ), I don't remember having such a hard time getting it to work...
I think, the more recent your OS the more difficulties you may have.

 

[Deviluk]

"As long as we create unique and unprecedented experiences with video games,"

Wait... isn't it Nintendo who have been re-doing Mario and Zelda for ages now?

Precisely. I thought it was a bit rich coming from him.

 

[Antari]

Its a shame hes a single voice in the game community in this aspect ...

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Don't worry Mr. Miyamoto, I do. I place 150% of the blame on the lacklustre performance of this console generation. And I don't buy that economic nonsense. I mean I learned in frickin' High School that a recession is a natural part of the economic cycle. Surely if I'm learning about this in High School Social Studies, then some over-paid economist should be well aware of it and be able to advise accordingly.

 

[Sebenko]

I agree with this statement. I haven't seen any games that interest me in a while.

Alright, money does come into it, but £35 each for two games is too much in any financial climate.

 

[Arkhangelsk]

Miyamoto, you still prove why you are the king of Gamerland (better name for a gamer country, anyone?)

 

[xDHxD148L0]

Maybe for the Wii, but I have never run out of fun games on my Xbox, PS3 or my PC. I also think its funny that he says blames people for not having enough new ideas when Nintendo re-hash their franchises constantly

 

[Captain Pancake]

Win/Win= WIN (Or 1, if you want to be the most pedantic mathematician)

 

[Treblaine]

Yeah. $5 multiplied by every sale probably amounts to a good amount of profit; what they do can't be more expensive than developing their own titles. But considering 5 euro won't even buy my a pint in many pubs in Dublin city it does look like a laughably cheap price for hours of fun.

They are making huge profits for a few tweaks, that's hardly equivalent to developping even a small retro game.
It's not fundamentaly wrong to be nosy, but thei're not getting me

I tried! And I still can't get so many games to work with proper sound though I found building my own PC a doddle in comparison.

Blood is one of those games that I REALLY want to play because I love that 90's occult shtich but it has been the hardest thing in the world to get working and need at LEAST a Core 2 Due to function well at all. Sound is buggy, frame rate plummets for no reason. The thing is it CAN work in dosbox but needs a couple dozen fixes, tweaks and optimisations... why does each user have to go through all that when if it was re-released on GOG all the little necessary tweaks could be made at once by ONE person who knows exactly what they are doing.

I had loads of fun with Blood too (super hard game, finding all the secrets is a real challenge ), I don't remember having such a hard time getting it to work...
I think, the more recent your OS the more difficulties you may have.

yer kinda screwed up the quoting there, made it look like I said the $5 thing. Maybe change that?

"I think, the more recent your OS the more difficulties you may have."

I have Vista 64 bit... welcome to my world of pain.

 

[Logic 0]

Excellent we can now use the power of these super machines to make these games more fun to take over the world.