Mob Kills Wal-Mart Employee, Keeps Shopping

swift tongued

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I heard that the police are going to look over the footage from the security cameras and charge a lot of the people who were responsible for this.
I really hope they do. It's disgusting what has happened. Guy was just trying to make a buck for the holidays, likely to buy his own gifts for his family and friends, and this happens. And that people didn't want to leave and really didn't care that there was a man killed...I don't even have the words to say how heartless you'd have to be.quote]

Really? You hope that specific people are punished for the actions of a MOB. It's wrong that he died, but bringing a few people to the sacrificial alter to atone for the crimes of many is in no way justice.
 

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I dont get it, if they are wiling to smash doors down and kill people, why not just steal the damn merchandise?

And how big are the discounts? we dont have Black friday in the UK
Indeed - we've had the odd incident of injury, but its rare. Further, I believe the one case I heard of was of a store chain that had gone bankrupt and was shutting down (and people were ...eager... to claim their orders (furniture, I think it was).
 

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CanadianWolverine said:
I think there is some of the responsibility for this tragedy being over looked here:

Five minutes before the store was to open, the horde of unruly customers shattered the door, trampled through the half-dozen Wal-Mart employees who had desperately been trying to reinforce the doomed entryway, and proceeded to shop, according to police and eyewitnesses.
The employer and managers responsible for sending those under paid, no benefits workers to 'reinforce' should be criminally charged and fired. Walmart should also be investigated to see if this is standard practice to send employees into harm's way.

Common sense should tell you that if you have a pressing mob outside your front doors, you get people away from the doors and tell the crowd to get orderly or disperse ... or there will be no shopping period, we'll just turn out the lights and walk out the back door till the cops take care of the mob. This isn't just a story about the mob of shoppers being greedy and irresponsible, its about the business being that way too.

And not only that, but apparently there were police present? Why weren't they doing their jobs and calling in the riot police, ambulance, and demanding people get orderly or disperse?

There are all kinds of hands with blood on them with things like this. I hope some people who are running businesses read this: don't even try to do business in situations like this.
Wow, I didn't even think of this. You're right, businesses and inaction on the part of police are just as guilty. I think on Black Friday police should be given the order to use tear gas and beat rioters senseless, and to shoot to kill if necessary.
 

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The scary part is, taking Nico out of the equation, Liberty City is better than this.
That's because Fiction must be believable. This, an unbelievable situation is fit purly for real life. I used to work at Wal-Mart, for just over two years and worked two Black Fridays. This is not even the slightest shock to me. It's detestable, but the first thing through my head was: "Only one?"
This is the world we live in, Umbrella Corp. Wal-Mart is so uncaring about the guys life. I worked in Electronics alone on one Black Friday. They had me, a scrawny computer nerd chase after a thief once even, I would have anyways, mind you since I hate thieves, but that is their way. The things I've seen during the holidays have made me question why I should even care anymore. Trampling a woman, stealing her cart with items, purse and child. That was 5 minutes into it, too. And (At least when I was there) they screwed their employees over constantly for extremely uncompetative pay. They will only learn one thing from this, and that is to figure out a way to make it harder for them to lose money from this... Thankfully that will likly include less deaths, they are expensive legal battles.
Mob mentality is disgusting, and in their own heads, they didn't kill him. So they will for the most part, not feel remorse, and it's not a New York City thing, either (Though I say we shove NYC into the ocean anyways. Just to be safe) it's a problem with our over-crowded society at large. Remember the BS from Tickle Me Elmo?!

-Link Kadeshi
 

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Darkrai said:
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha........ People crack me the **** up!
Umm...
You can't tell me that you dont think people are getting even more stupid then they used to be. Sure, I feel terrible for the family of the victim, but I feel that he's in a better place, away from these roaming consumer knobs.
 

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Link Kadeshi said:
*Terrible experiences*
-Link Kadeshi
See, that is why on Black Friday I go to stores not to shop, but to try to cheer up the sullen, downtrodden retail employees.
 

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John Tacos said:
Darkrai said:
John Tacos said:
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha........ People crack me the **** up!
Umm...
You can't tell me that you dont think people are getting even more stupid then they used to be. Sure, I feel terrible for the family of the victim, but I feel that he's in a better place, away from these roaming consumer knobs.
Well...That is true. Good point
 

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This is quite a clear case of corporate manslaughter. WalMart should be fined to the ground so that they could never afford another of these sales again.
 

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Those people saved maybe 20%, put paid in blood.

An "I killed a person for this" tax. Who would want to live with that on one's conscience?

Is a person's life only worth as much as a stupid home appliance?
 

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Darkrai said:
John Tacos said:
Darkrai said:
John Tacos said:
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha........ People crack me the **** up!
Umm...
You can't tell me that you dont think people are getting even more stupid then they used to be. Sure, I feel terrible for the family of the victim, but I feel that he's in a better place, away from these roaming consumer knobs.
Well...That is true. Good point
=) Thank you, I know. =P
 

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I can't really think of anything to say. The selfishness of other people is sometimes unbelievable.
 

Link Kadeshi

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John Tacos said:
You can't tell me that you dont think people are getting even more stupid then they used to be. Sure, I feel terrible for the family of the victim, but I feel that he's in a better place, away from these roaming consumer knobs.
I agree. Work in customer service long enough, and you see it. I've had people complain because the price of something was less than advertised... And then wanted a discount. I think it's not important for people to think in their average lives, so they act stupid, then, since IQ's drop normally in a group/mod, they regress even further. I hesitate to even suggest trying to persecute this mob. They wont learn anything from it. It'd be a waste of money. I honestly believe we need to stop the Black Friday crap altogether.
Also, the cops were there since 3 trying to calm the crowd down... New York cops aren't the fuzzy pandas they seem on TV. (Wanted to use that joke, sorry.)
 

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Brokkr said:
I heard that the police are going to look over the footage from the security cameras and charge a lot of the people who were responsible for this.
I wonder if the people in trouble will get 40% off their ticket?

I hope not ;| Raving lunatics.
 

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This would never happen in any other country.

Now I'm not gonna go all anti-USA on your asses, because I'm not ignorant enough to think that all of America is bad, blah blah blah, I know a lot of nice Americans, and it's clear that there are millions more there. But this could only happen in a place where there is so much commercialism, and a sub-concious NEED to buy for greed. So much so that they don't care if someone dies so they can get a few dollars off one of their precious material posessions.

In the small town where I live in the UK (And I MEAN small town, population of no more than 500) I was on my way to work, at the local supermarket that is renouned for selling everything for dirt cheap (Home Bargains for anyone in the UK). There was the largest queue waiting for the shop to open than I had ever seen in my half a year of working there. About 50 people. As I went to walk around the store to the employees entrance, I saw a woman slip on some ice that had been a puddle the night before, just outside the door. About a second after that, the front doors opened, and only about 20 of the people walked into the shop, mainly the ones at the front that didn't see what happened. The rest stopped to make sure she was alright.

This sort of courtesy and civility should happen wherever you are. What this story reminded me of is a load of ants. You see it in documentaries and everything, where a huge colony of ants will be moving somewhere, in an uncaring fashion, waking over each other, not caring, because (And I'm no ant expert) they probably don't have the ability to feel empathy.

Just because the rest of the crowd is doing it, doesn't make it okay, and the worst part is, nobody can be prosecuted. I hope everyone who knows they trampled that poor person is guilt ridden enough so that this material christmas of theirs that cost a human life is ruined for them. But it won't happen.

Because they saved their few extra dollars...

*Edit* I do hope I didn't offend any Americans, but my point was, when I went to the US, the crowds on the streets and in shops were the most uncaring I've ever met, I got walked into several times by people who didn't even look at me afterwards. Just barged straight past. And it was a shock for me, because I've been to most of the major European countries, and 95% of the people, if they accidentally bump into you, or you know, trample you to death, will apologise.

But that doesn't take away the fact that I've met and spoken to a huge number of polite, kind US citizens.
 

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It's sad that the people who trampled him are unable to feel any emotion. Then again these people do shop at Wal-Mart. People like this should be stripped of all of their worldly possesions.
 

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Ago Iterum said:
*Edit* I do hope I didn't offend any Americans, but my point was, when I went to the US, the crowds on the streets and in shops were the most uncaring I've ever met, I got walked into several times by people who didn't even look at me afterwards. Just barged straight past. And it was a shock for me, because I've been to most of the major European countries, and 95% of the people, if they accidentally bump into you, or you know, trample you to death, will apologise.

But that doesn't take away the fact that I've met and spoken to a huge number of polite, kind US citizens.
Don't worry, I'm sure you didn't offend any Americans. Not me anyways.

It's stupid, sure the economy completely bombed and everyone needs money, but this type of craziness should never be excused. It probably wasn't even that much off.