More evidence provided to show the right wing of the Labour party sabotaged Corbyn and everyone associated with him.

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Typical alt-lefter, calls people a fascist when they lose an argument.
I don't really care whether you self-identify as a fascist or not. Your lack of self-awareness is not my concern.

It's really very simple, if you don't want to be called a fascist don't do fascist things. Don't normalize fascist memes and fascist beliefs. Don't trivialize the mass-murder of tens of thousands of innocent people by a fascist regime. Most of us manage to get up every day and somehow refrain from doing that. Why are you so special?

I am a realist not a fascist.
As if all fascists don't believe they are realists.

Try reading a book.
It's funny that you say this, and then tell me to go back to Islington.. it's almost like you don't know what the social stereotypes you're referring to actually are, or for that matter what a communist is.

But if what you're saying is that you wish I could afford to live in Islington, then thanks I guess. That's unexpectedly nice of you.
 
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The right wing of the Labour Party is totally corrupt and will do anything for power, and are only in Labour because they're too right wing for the Liberal Democrats.

Also, Jeremy Corbyn is a borderline genocide denying brainwormed lefty foreign policy takes factory who can suck my entire dick.
 
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It is my experience that any truth worth telling registers as highly debatable. The more justified confidence people have in a piece of information, the more others want to tear it apart. If you are personally trying hard to prove something wrong, that may as well be evidence of its veracity.
You mean like wanting to prove Allende was bad so hard that you become an unironic fascist meme poster?
 

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You mean like wanting to prove Allende was bad so hard that you become an unironic fascist meme poster?
If you want to win an election, why do you need a gang/militants.

Again play stupid games get stupid results.
 

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The right wing of the Labour Party is totally corrupt and will do anything for power, and are only in Labour because they're too right wing for the Liberal Democrats.

Also, Jeremy Corbyn is a borderline genocide denying brainwormed lefty foreign policy takes factory who can suck my entire dick.
I read that in Sir Alec Guinness' voice and it was hysterical.
 
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His Allies did.
Again, not him then.

As a side note, since he won a plurality of the vote but not an absolute majority, the election was kicked to congress to decide and was legitimately a tense moment that could have gone either way. But what solidified his victory was a sudden outburst of sympathy and solidarity behind him after the CIA backed a kidnapping and assassination of the head of the Chilean military because the head of the military was a staunch believer that the military has no place in civilian politics.

All I hear is that the times were dangerous for Allende and as since he wasn't killing people at the time, he was clearly the superior choice.
 

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Again, not him then.

As a side note, since he won a plurality of the vote but not an absolute majority, the election was kicked to congress to decide and was legitimately a tense moment that could have gone either way. But what solidified his victory was a sudden outburst of sympathy and solidarity behind him after the CIA backed a kidnapping and assassination of the head of the Chilean military because the head of the military was a staunch believer that the military has no place in civilian politics.

All I hear is that the times were dangerous for Allende and as since he wasn't killing people at the time, he was clearly the superior choice.
Is that all that is needed for a head of state? That you don't kill people. Bernie Sanders has killed people indirectly when he voted for not all but some US wars, but he would make a better leader than me who has less direct involvement in killing people but has hatred in my heart for certain ideas, and the elites that hold them, for one I don't think I could hold a talk with those leaders without attempting to straight up fight them but it would be the right thing to do since as TYT's Cenk stated you don't just talk to your friends in diplomacy, you need to talk to your enemies.

To answer a previous question, the reason I love NATO is one because it protects me, my country, etc., but also because I want to see it eventually kill Russia, and China as a political idea or at least kill their political system. I blame the USSR, and CCP China for what happened with the regard to my aborted siblings due to the one-child policy.

As for fascism, it's always transitory, had the nationalists won the civil war in China they would be like Taiwan today, whereas anti-US dictatorships stay that way if you are large enough for longer like Iran, Russia, China, NK, etc.
 

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Is that all that is needed for a head of state? That you don't kill people. Bernie Sanders has killed people indirectly when he voted for not all but some US wars, but he would make a better leader than me who has less direct involvement in killing people but has hatred in my heart for certain ideas, and the elites that hold them, for one I don't think I could hold a talk with those leaders without attempting to straight up fight them but it would be the right thing to do since as TYT's Cenk stated you don't just talk to your friends in diplomacy, you need to talk to your enemies.

To answer a previous question, the reason I love NATO is one because it protects me, my country, etc., but also because I want to see it eventually kill Russia, and China as a political idea or at least kill their political system. I blame the USSR, and CCP China for what happened with the regard to my aborted siblings due to the one-child policy.

As for fascism, it's always transitory, had the nationalists won the civil war in China they would be like Taiwan today, whereas anti-US dictatorships stay that way if you are large enough for longer like Iran, Russia, China, NK, etc.
"Shoving rats up people's asses is transitory, stroking gun cocks is eternal."

Said by someone who uncritically buys propaganda against peaceful leaders.
 

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"Shoving rats up people's asses is transitory, stroking gun cocks is eternal."

Said by someone who uncritically buys propaganda against peaceful leaders.
Not a peaceful leader, and not a rule based leader as well given him breaking the Chilean constitution.
 

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Not a peaceful leader, and not a rule based leader as well given him breaking the Chilean constitution.
In a political landscape defined by assassinations and kidnappings, him not doing that makes him the peaceful one. As for breaking the constitution, his political rivals charged him with it, but didn't really say how, but Allende pointed out they broke the constitution to try and remove him, and they did.

Every accusation is a confession.
 

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In 1944, the English writer, democratic socialist, and anti-fascist George Orwell wrote about the term's overuse as an epithet, arguing: "It will be seen that, as used, the word 'Fascism' is almost entirely meaningless. In conversation, of course, it is used even more wildly than in print. I have heard it applied to farmers, shopkeepers, Social Credit, corporal punishment, fox-hunting, bull-fighting, the 1922 Committee, the 1941 Committee, Kipling, Gandhi, Chiang Kai-Shek, homosexuality, Priestley's broadcasts, Youth Hostels, astrology, women, dogs and I do not know what else. ... [T]he people who recklessly fling the word 'Fascist' in every direction attach at any rate an emotional significance to it. By 'Fascism' they mean, roughly speaking, something cruel, unscrupulous, arrogant, obscurantist, anti-liberal and anti-working-class. Except for the relatively small number of Fascist sympathizers, almost any English person would accept 'bully' as a synonym for 'Fascist'. That is about as near to a definition as this much-abused word has come."

-Wiki

TLDR: Some people call people who disagree with them; fascists.
 

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Except you also uncritically support the United States and capitalism, so it actually just looks like you don't even think it's dark.
No, I am trying to find a new economic system as we speak via this website.


As for the US, it's complicated. The US is very diverse, and while it could improve inclusively, it's the most inclusive place in the world right now. It's very accepting of outsiders, and unlike Sweden which is also very open, it's a lot more economically inclusive. Even Germany which almost kicked a Palestinian girl who spoke perfect German, and was basically assimilated, but came as a refugee was almost forced to go back to her country for political reasons. Look at Donald Trump the most racist president, and a fascist president who... likes Indian Americans, has friends with African Americans like Kanye, and only really hates Chinese, Hispanics, and Muslims who aren't wealthy. In Europe, if you're a fascist you hate everyone who isn't useful to you or shares the same race as you. And don't even get me started on the rest of the world.