Move Over DreamWorks, Ghost in the Shell Animated Film On the Way

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Move Over DreamWorks, Ghost in the Shell Animated Film On the Way

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Another animated adaptation of Ghost in the Shell will premiere in Japan this summer.

The Ghost in the Shell [http://kokaku-a.jp/] film (not the live-action film) revealed a trailer yesterday for the upcoming film, expected to premiere in Japan this summer.

Much of the staff from Ghost in the Shell Arise, a four-episode series adapting Masamune Shirow's Ghost in the Shell manga, is working on the 2015 film from the cast to chief director.

Anime News Network translates the text as follows:
The legendary science-fiction work that caused a revolution around the world.
Original Work - Masamune Shirow
A work in celebration of 25 years
The awakened ghost whispers...
Ghost in the Shell: The New Movie
Opens in early summer 2015

Ghost in the Shell was originally a manga published in 1989 and later adapted into an animated film in 1995. The cyberpunk series follows protagonist Major Motoko Kusanagi, who leads an organization dedicated to stopping cyberterrorism. Scarlett Johansson [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/139294-Live-Action-of-Anime-Ghost-in-the-Shell-Gets-Scarlett-Johansson] will be starring in the film.

There is no word on an American release.

Source: Anime News Network [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUEktyhOSxg]


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Zontar

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If they're using the guys who made Arise, then I'm honestly going to put my money on DreamWork's live action one instead. That OVA series was a low for the franchise, one which I just can't see Hollywood reaching in this age of halfway competent adaptations on their part.
 

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I surely hope the American dub of the film doesn't replace a talented asian voice actor with some white female one, because that would be a waste of talent and be denying jobs to minorities. Right?
 

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Arise is an adaptation of the Manga? - That's news to me.
Only saw the first Arise and it was shit and had nothing to do with the manga aside the names?

Some years ago I would have been excited about it. Then came Innocence.
Well at least they seem to have dropped the pedo look of Arise?
 

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I am ashamed to have read that article & it's massive lack of this point; that Hollywood reaching out to creative works in other mediums is a desperate move on par with a newly-sexualised nerd trying to talk to a porn star, because they cannot create a story of their own for the apparent future. Race has nothing to do with it, so much so that even reaching out into nearly a century in the past to bring up blackface, to 'highlight' it's reverse today does absolutely nothing for the actual matter here. You're trying to treat symptoms for a greater underlying illness here, & that's the abject lack of vision in storytelling for western media.

Besides, I said it on Facebook & I'll say it here, Batou's the more colourful character. The Major & all her deadliness is still the existential mouthpiece in the original works for the original writers & directors. You can't dance around that fact.
 

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Well - the trailer looks nice.

But I can't wait to see trailer for the dreamworks GITS movie.
 

Zontar

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Banana Cannon said:
I am ashamed to have read that article & it's massive lack of this point; that Hollywood reaching out to creative works in other mediums is a desperate move on par with a newly-sexualised nerd trying to talk to a porn star, because they cannot create a story of their own for the apparent future.
Doesn't that statement apply to Anime given how many series are based on Manga, and over the past 15 years the massive rise in light novels being the source material for new shows? I'm actually having trouble thinking of any anime in the past few years that wasn't adapted from a novel, manga, game or is the sequel to an already decades old franchise.
 

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Zontar said:
Banana Cannon said:
I am ashamed to have read that article & it's massive lack of this point; that Hollywood reaching out to creative works in other mediums is a desperate move on par with a newly-sexualised nerd trying to talk to a porn star, because they cannot create a story of their own for the apparent future.
Doesn't that statement apply to Anime given how many series are based on Manga, and over the past 15 years the massive rise in light novels being the source material for new shows? I'm actually having trouble thinking of any anime in the past few years that wasn't adapted from a novel, manga, game or is the sequel to an already decades old franchise.
That can be easily explained, & I'm glad that it's this particular work that we're talking about, because if you're talking about adaptation & Ghost in the Shell, let me tell you now, a manga may indeed be 1st & foremost the medium, but that's because it necessitates the funding for an animation, which is the most expensive medium to work with. The credit still goes to the original writers & concept artists, with directors having their own flair.

Also, while the storytelling may differ slightly depending on demographic (which is something I have certainly been pissed off over in the past, just look up Chrono Crusade & the massive sh*t Christian values take on the anime's version of the plot) the substance is almost never lost, as long as fan service is slapped & told to go cry to itself in the corner. The only real difference between G.i.t.S Vol.1 & the 1st film is that with the manga it was over 18's. Kusanagi, who everyone wants to go & probably want to platform as their new standard of femininity because of this film plan (which will irk me to no end) was a sexual deviant in her own right who also happened to be bisexual.

No, good sir or madam who may contend with me on this, that point holds no bearing against what is again my be-all & end-all of the point here. Western filmmakers cannot be bothered to write their own material, so they copy & paste someone else's excellence for their own target demographic of mongoloids who can't stand an animated or originally subtitled feature & would eat up a western adaptation!
 

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From my point of view, Anime and Manga are still small enough that risks and new ideas are tried fairly often, unlike films which seem to be all or nothing affairs with very few new ideas tried anymore.
 

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Personally I'm putting no hope in either project, people might not want to admit it, but even anime has changed since the 80s and 90s, if people are looking for something like the 1995 Ghost in the Shell movie this likely won't be it, it's just like how Hollywood has changed these days, they wouldn't make an action movie like Terminator 2 anymore

As for DreamWorks project it's a likely trainwreck, most likely the next Dragon Ball/Last Airbender
 

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Still don't get all the hate for the Arise OVAs. They weren't spectacular by any stretch, but neither was anything else the franchise has produced. I mean, I love GitS, but nothing it has done has ever blown me away.
 

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Banana Cannon said:
Zontar said:
Banana Cannon said:
I am ashamed to have read that article & it's massive lack of this point; that Hollywood reaching out to creative works in other mediums is a desperate move on par with a newly-sexualised nerd trying to talk to a porn star, because they cannot create a story of their own for the apparent future.
Doesn't that statement apply to Anime given how many series are based on Manga, and over the past 15 years the massive rise in light novels being the source material for new shows? I'm actually having trouble thinking of any anime in the past few years that wasn't adapted from a novel, manga, game or is the sequel to an already decades old franchise.
That can be easily explained, & I'm glad that it's this particular work that we're talking about, because if you're talking about adaptation & Ghost in the Shell, let me tell you now, a manga may indeed be 1st & foremost the medium, but that's because it necessitates the funding for an animation, which is the most expensive medium to work with. The credit still goes to the original writers & concept artists, with directors having their own flair.

Also, while the storytelling may differ slightly depending on demographic (which is something I have certainly been pissed off over in the past, just look up Chrono Crusade & the massive sh*t Christian values take on the anime's version of the plot) the substance is almost never lost, as long as fan service is slapped & told to go cry to itself in the corner. The only real difference between G.i.t.S Vol.1 & the 1st film is that with the manga it was over 18's. Kusanagi, who everyone wants to go & probably want to platform as their new standard of femininity because of this film plan (which will irk me to no end) was a sexual deviant in her own right who also happened to be bisexual.

No, good sir or madam who may contend with me on this, that point holds no bearing against what is again my be-all & end-all of the point here. Western filmmakers cannot be bothered to write their own material, so they copy & paste someone else's excellence for their own target demographic of mongoloids who can't stand an animated or originally subtitled feature & would eat up a western adaptation!
I can't think of any anime adaptations which didn't have a large number of fans of the book, manga or game crying fowl though, so I fail to see the lack of parallels between the standard practice of the modern anime industry and Hollywood's occasional dable with adapting stories from Japan. It seems you just hate Western movies in general by your rant (I mean seriously, Western filmmakers can't be bothers to write their own material? That's wrong on several levels) then anything else.
Hazzard said:
From my point of view, Anime and Manga are still small enough that risks and new ideas are tried fairly often, unlike films which seem to be all or nothing affairs with very few new ideas tried anymore.
This is true for manga, but for anime it couldn't be further from the truth. With the extraordinary costs of production for anime operating in valley and peak operating costs it's actually very rare for an anime to brake even on the broadcast, the industry is dependent on merchandise, syndication and disk sales to make a profit (and even then, at the four year mark 30% of anime series end up being financial losses). The modern anime industry is a medium which takes safe bets and sure things on a level which put most mediums (including Hollywood movies) to shame.
 

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Really Zontar? So you're going to be complicit in the same practice of Michael Bay films over the past while that's cashing in on another aspect of geek culture, just applied by a different production studio, which is what I actually take offence towards?

I don't think I could defend the manga & anime industries against all sorts of analysis, because in truth it is sorely needed. That can be done by the community who loves it, though, & the moguls behind production once they all learn a little thing called constructive feedback. THIS isn't the solution!

And I don't mind a few of the Marvel films, just so you know. At least they're under the same production name, for Christ's sake. No, I take issue with sh*t storytelling, like a brilliant work that is undoubtedly going to be intellectually watered down to appeal to some ingrates who can't hack Existential concepts, & so should you.
 

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I still prefer the Oshii film, pretentious meaningless symbolism and all. Hong Kong is cooler than boring ass cyber tokyo.
 

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Ishigami said:
Some years ago I would have been excited about it. Then came Innocence.
*Is that minority that preferred Innocence over the original*

And don't get me wrong, the original was good, but it just felt so vanilla after absorbing quite a bit of cyber-punk and existential sci-fi media (some of it which was inspired by it) that it felt like I've already seen this movie multiple times. Innocence actually went into some really interesting and crazy places e.g. getting stuck in the mind loop multiple times
 

Zontar

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Banana Cannon said:
Really Zontar? So you're going to be complicit in the same practice of Michael Bay films over the past while that's cashing in on another aspect of geek culture, just applied by a different production studio, which is what I actually take offence towards?
Your rant could have fooled me, it seemed more you hated the perceived creative bankruptcy that many mistakenly thick only Hollywood suffers instead of it being an entertainment wide problem.
I don't think I could defend the manga & anime industries against all sorts of analysis, because in truth it is sorely needed. That can be done by the community who loves it, though, & the moguls behind production once they all learn a little thing called constructive feedback. THIS isn't the solution!
Unfortunately getting feedback from the community is what resulted in the current state of afairs, both for Hollywood and anime. Hell, I'll admit that though I do enjoy the occasional art movie I much more often indulge in popcorn flicks. It's the same with most people when it comes to all entertainment mediums.
And I don't mind a few of the Marvel films, just so you know. At least they're under the same production name, for Christ's sake. No, I take issue with sh*t storytelling, like a brilliant work that is undoubtedly going to be intellectually watered down to appeal to some ingrates who can't hack Existential concepts, & so should you.
This is what I remember someone (can't remember who) calling the "Sci Fi Paradox". In this day and age the only means for big high concept science fiction stories can be made are with big budgets, ones which the fan base for such movies can not sustain (even in anime this has become the case over the past 15 years). So the addition of action scenes, or big name actors/directors being added to the bill (usually both) isn't because they want to do so, but because it's needed to turn a profit in the current market. It's not ideal, but it's the unfortunate state of affairs.
 

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jhoroz said:
Ishigami said:
Some years ago I would have been excited about it. Then came Innocence.
*Is that minority that preferred Innocence over the original*

And don't get me wrong, the original was good, but it just felt so vanilla after absorbing quite a bit of cyber-punk and existential sci-fi media (some of it which was inspired by it) that it felt like I've already seen this movie multiple times. Innocence actually went into some really interesting and crazy places e.g. getting stuck in the mind loop multiple times
You could make the case that for it's time (maybe even now) it's one of the most refined of the genre. Like how most Mario games are the same in the platforming genre but every new or different iteration shows it's production value but you could find that boring.
Hell, if you've read watched Blade Runner/Do Androids Dream Electric Sheep some of Ghost in the shells stuff isn't all that new either.
 

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I don't think you get it at all, Zontar. A redux is not needed, as the original productions have not diminished over time. It is down to taste depending on which ones you find to be better than the others, sure, but it's hugely unnecessary to drag such a classic series with some peerless details for the story universe into the drudgery of trying to include it into mainstream media, to make it relevant towards a demographic that don't care enough about the series to even know what it was when originally broadcasted.

And this is Ghost in the Shell. It doesn't need to ingratiate itself to any plebian. You vote for something with your money nowadays. Try voting for the original take before lauding an uninspired production with more attention than it deserves.
 

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"Move over DreamWorks"

"There is no word on an American release."

Hahahaha!

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

I'm sorry, what?

Someone better warn that 5 star restaurant that there's a McDonalds opening up down the road from them.

Completely different markets.

Clickbait title. Yawn.
 

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It would be financial folly to not release this in America as the I'm sure the American anime market is still quite lucrative. I watched the 1995 film when it came out and I was never a huge fan. I will say that I always loved Masamune Shirow's work... not so much his characters (as that was normal Mange fluff), but his scenes and setups were fantastic.

Also, you don't need to dub it, lots of people will buy a subtitled move, but as an artist I like to take in the visuals and having a dubbed version is best for us non-Japanese speaking people.

I also don't see these things as any kind of competition. They aren't even meant to appeal to the same people. I would rather watch an Anime if for no other reason than I have never seen a well adapted anime in the American live action market. Anime is best as anime for the simple reason that you can do a whole lot more for a whole lot less... which has always blown my mind when they fail to make the visually interesting or have a story that plays it too safe.