It's a matter of opinion. Personally, I loved Oblivion, but hated (for the most part) Dragon Age (which you love, judging by your avatar). Vanilla Oblivion is still a very enjoyable experience; it just may not have a deep story, but it is a fun game to play. DA was the opposite; it had great characters, a good but cliché and hackneyed story, but the gameplay wasn't enjoyable at all.Ultratwinkie said:bethesda games are shit. if your community need to MOD 90% of the content, you suck at making games. you lost me when you claimed oblivion was the best game ever made.cgride555 said:So, don't get me wrong, Oblivion was close to the best game ever made, as was Fallout 3. I have gone back to Fallout 3 while waiting in eager anticipation for the next Elder Scrolls (some time away I do realize), but I can't help feeling like these games are missing something... which is true of every video game ever made everywhere, because lets face it there is no perfect game!
My problem is how expansive these games are. In Fallout 3, for example, you go into a side quest, find the main prerogative for yourself, then are given a bit of dialog. Should you choose to change your mind on any given option, you have to find another individual to continue the mission. This can be quite time consuming given the amount of hallways and doors you must pass through.
Can they possibly cut down on the travel time... make events closer together! That or rectify the fast travel system! I play COD or Bethesda, and in comparison I can take as much time completing a single quest in Fallout that I can 20 rounds on multi-player for MW2. Call me lazy if you wish, but I can't count the number of times I've stumbled across an empty locker or gotten lost in a museum or factory. Just gets a bit frustrating is all.
On a side-note, I totally agree with what you say here about Dragon Age. I almost think that getting that game was a waste of my money if I had not bought it cheap on a Steam deal.Omnific One said:It's a matter of opinion. Personally, I loved Oblivion, but hated (for the most part) Dragon Age (which you love, judging by your avatar). Vanilla Oblivion is still a very enjoyable experience; it just may not have a deep story, but it is a fun game to play. DA was the opposite; it had a great characters, a good but cliché and hackneyed story, but the gameplay wasn't enjoyable at all.
http://pbskids.org/arthur/games/factsopinions/Judas Iscariot said:Im sorry. You lost me when you claimed Oblivion was close to the best game ever made.
Seriously... Bethesda games are horseshit. Vanilla Oblivion is crap.
Bethesda does not get credit for fan made content.
Oblivion is a great game. It's got satisfying quests, great graphics, a decent combat system, HEAPS of replay value, in-depth lore, and smooth controls... what more do you need from an RPG?The Amazing Tea Alligator said:PoisonUnagi said:None of the points you just listed apply to ANY of the Elder Scrolls games, except maybe Arena.These two to the nth degree. There seems to be an unrealistic amount of Oblivion love. Can anyone explain it to me?Judas Iscariot said:Im sorry. You lost me when you claimed Oblivion was close to the best game ever made.
Read this [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.232216-My-problem-with-Bethesda-games#8156859]Russian_Assassin said:You will now: The combat in Morrowind is SHIT! But the rest of the game is great. I just hate that even Morrowind, a 2003 game, is just as unstable as Oblivion!SL33TBL1ND said:Try Morrowind, I've never heard a bad word spoken about it.
Also, Bethesda's games are not that great by themselves (except Morrowind), they rely heavily on fan made mods and even then their games crash more than a hippo riding a unicycle on an icy road. Even vanilla (unmodded) oblivion likes to get sudden heart attacks, which never let me get immersed. So, how about changing your damn game engine, hmmm?
I was quoting you for thePoisonUnagi said:Oblivion is a great game. It's got satisfying quests, great graphics, a decent combat system, HEAPS of replay value, in-depth lore, and smooth controls... what more do you need from an RPG?The Amazing Tea Alligator said:PoisonUnagi said:None of the points you just listed apply to ANY of the Elder Scrolls games, except maybe Arena.These two to the nth degree. There seems to be an unrealistic amount of Oblivion love. Can anyone explain it to me?Judas Iscariot said:Im sorry. You lost me when you claimed Oblivion was close to the best game ever made.
(although I think Morrowind's better in most ways)
EDIT: Wait, I'm confused at why you quoted me.
I'm in no way a Bethesda hater... look at my avatar.
I agreed with this and wanted to say so, though the most of my post was dedicated to Judas.PoisonUnagi said:None of the points you just listed apply to ANY of the Elder Scrolls games, except maybe Arena.
Yeah, I get what you mean now. I agree that Morrowind is alot better than Oblivion (again, my avatar xD), but it's still not enough to stop me playing Oblivion. I'm sure I'll get bored of it alot quicker than I got bored of Morrowind, but, y'know.The Amazing Tea Alligator said:ultra snip
So its the developers job to tailor make the game to YOUR specifications is it???? It was made as it was and if you don't like it they gave you the option to change it very easily, I fail to see how your point stands up.AlternatePFG said:But why should WE have to fix them? It's the developers job.Urialanis said:I'm gonna ignore the Bethesda/Oblivion/Fallout 3 bashing or paragoning and keep to the original point, you don't seem to understand that the point of the expansive gameplay is to give the impression of being somewhere fictional and comparing RPGs to COD is utterly futile. Oh and one last point the ability to mod Bethesda games means if there is something you don't like about them its so damn easy to change or find someone who already fixed it.
Yeah, I misread your post. Sorry bout that.Urialanis said:So its the developers job to tailor make the game to YOUR specifications is it???? It was made as it was and if you don't like it they gave you the option to change it very easily, I fail to see how your point stands up.AlternatePFG said:But why should WE have to fix them? It's the developers job.Urialanis said:I'm gonna ignore the Bethesda/Oblivion/Fallout 3 bashing or paragoning and keep to the original point, you don't seem to understand that the point of the expansive gameplay is to give the impression of being somewhere fictional and comparing RPGs to COD is utterly futile. Oh and one last point the ability to mod Bethesda games means if there is something you don't like about them its so damn easy to change or find someone who already fixed it.
I agree with grey.Aylaine said:Mmm, my issue are the bugs. I can handle everything else, but when my game is constantly CTD like no other, it's time to find a new game or pray the fan community found a fix for it. x.x
Google the following: Bioware.cgride555 said:agree to disagree, but they are the best games I've played on my 360 so far outside of MW2.Judas Iscariot said:Im sorry. You lost me when you claimed Oblivion was close to the best game ever made.
Seriously... Bethesda games are horseshit. Vanilla Oblivion is crap.
Bethesda does not get credit for fan made content.