NASA Scientist Claims to Have Found Evidence of Extraterrestrial Life
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The idea, as best I can express it, is that a general factual acknowledgement by the public at large of our adjusted place in the universe (not alone, potentially IMMINENT threats and opportunities out there in the vast expanses between the planets and stars) could lead to a substantial increase in science funding the world over: something that is sorely needed.Anti Nudist Cupcake said:
Of course the concept of life other places in the universe is, but the discovery of life is something different.darthricardo said:
Saying that the possibility of there being life on other planets based on size, that chance is pretty big.
The chance of life being discovered from a meteorite that has about 99% chance of bruning up in the atmosphere and almost no chance of getting sucked into the gravity of Earth. Now that is a small chance.
Still, I'd be more interestred if they could find any genetic material inside it or maybe proof that this is a bacteria, perhaps show us a picture made by a TEM microscope. As someone said before, for the untrained eye anything can looklike an actual organism.
The problem with discovering bacteria in meteroids and marking them as aliens is the following:
There are lots o bacteria on earth and we know just a fracture of them. If you discover some bacteria you will have to prove that they can't be from earth...
Which is like proving that there is no needle in the hay stack.
There are lots o bacteria on earth and we know just a fracture of them. If you discover some bacteria you will have to prove that they can't be from earth...
Which is like proving that there is no needle in the hay stack.
no asari? crap, not having hot sweaty alien sex yet. 
serouse; the part that worries me is FOX news. this is an interesting find though
serouse; the part that worries me is FOX news. this is an interesting find though
Argee'd, seriously, I hope Mass Effect was conjured up when one of Bioware's lead writers took a time machine to 2185, that would be great(bar the heretic geth, the fact that almost no one likes humans, the Batarians and the REEPAHS(I also hope Bolo Santosi from Just Cause 2 is the ruler of them))ShadowsofHope said:
Anyone who thinks Earth is the only oasis of life in the Universe is an idiot who needs to be flayed with spiked chains.
I thought you put no discovery of Aslan yet, then I realized that he was already real.....and well of course, people who don't think there is anything else alive out there are a tad bonkers, come on...think about it.ShadowsofHope said:
It helps not to get too over excited about this. The reason the bacteria resemble earth bacteria is because it is earth bacteria. And the fact that there are millions of other bacteria species not yet discovered (or speciated) explains the unidentified species, which is the only real discovery in this article.
Basically, the sample is contaminated. The fact that there is ice in the meteor confirms this as they heat up to extreme temperatures upon entering the atmosphere & any cosmic ice is evaporated (if there was ET bacteria it would be sterilised by the heat) & filled with earth water that has been frozen. The real surprise is that there isnt more bacteria in the meteor sample but this could be put down to the low temp of the water & high temp of the rock.
The trouble with some scientists is that they want to believe their theories are true even if further evidence or simple explainations prove otherwise.
Basically, the sample is contaminated. The fact that there is ice in the meteor confirms this as they heat up to extreme temperatures upon entering the atmosphere & any cosmic ice is evaporated (if there was ET bacteria it would be sterilised by the heat) & filled with earth water that has been frozen. The real surprise is that there isnt more bacteria in the meteor sample but this could be put down to the low temp of the water & high temp of the rock.
The trouble with some scientists is that they want to believe their theories are true even if further evidence or simple explainations prove otherwise.
The count down till the Necromorphs has begun.
On a more serious note, that's pretty interesting. I've heard for years now that bacteria has been found outside of earth, but it's nice to see a genuine report on the matter. Could this mean life on earth arrived on something as random as a stray comet? And if so, where did this rock come from...
Interesting stuff.
On a more serious note, that's pretty interesting. I've heard for years now that bacteria has been found outside of earth, but it's nice to see a genuine report on the matter. Could this mean life on earth arrived on something as random as a stray comet? And if so, where did this rock come from...
Interesting stuff.
Just so we're clear, Escapist.
This is a Titanospirillum velox [http://www.pnas.org/content/96/20/11584.full], a terrestrial bacterium which had its image included in the paper because it resembles the filaments in the meteor in question. It is not an image of the proposed [http://journalofcosmology.com/images/HooverFigure1d.jpg] lifeform [http://journalofcosmology.com/images/HooverFigure1a.jpg].
This is a Titanospirillum velox [http://www.pnas.org/content/96/20/11584.full], a terrestrial bacterium which had its image included in the paper because it resembles the filaments in the meteor in question. It is not an image of the proposed [http://journalofcosmology.com/images/HooverFigure1d.jpg] lifeform [http://journalofcosmology.com/images/HooverFigure1a.jpg].
I have to agree with that. first contact being made by hostile-looking governments and military men is one hell of a way to make an awful first impression. Of course, we must protect ourselves, hazmat suits being a must, and a few guards would be good, but few enough as to not seem too hostile.Onyxious said:
But the worst case scenario is this: what of area 51 is really conducting inhumane experiments on aliens, and what if they find out?
tbh I think its SO obvious that there is life out there other than us that its just a matter of time, I wont be surprised when its eventually discovered, only happy or amazed at what it is. if this IS it, then awesome!
It's an impressive thought. I'd really prefer if we found some evidence of megafauna, though. Hell, megaflora would be alright. But, of course, those things are pretty hard to find in a meteorite. Shame.
Many escapists have mentioned that the crediblity of this article is very poor, or at least lacking. I have to agree, despite not being involved in the scientific community too much.
I won't be satisfied until we go out there and find them first. How about we be the technologically-advanced overlords for once?
Many escapists have mentioned that the crediblity of this article is very poor, or at least lacking. I have to agree, despite not being involved in the scientific community too much.
I won't be satisfied until we go out there and find them first. How about we be the technologically-advanced overlords for once?
What is interesting is that if it is life it seems similar to life already here. "Dr. Hoover has concluded they are indigenous to these meteors and are similar to trichomic cyanobacteria and other trichomic prokaryotes such as filamentous sulfur bacteria"
Which suggest that life could've originated elsewhere and then "seeded" the earth. There is a theory that meteorites contain the necessary chemicals to be the site of the origin of life.
EDIT: although it is going to need a lot more looking into.
Which suggest that life could've originated elsewhere and then "seeded" the earth. There is a theory that meteorites contain the necessary chemicals to be the site of the origin of life.
EDIT: although it is going to need a lot more looking into.
