Neo-Nazis Faked Out by Trick T-Shirts

[Treblaine]

It is EASY to leave far-right groups, if you want to.

When you account for peer pressure, environment situation, fear of threat of force, and other factors that go on in any group, it is not as easy to just up and leave as you think. Keep in mind the Neo-Nazi organization promotes terrorism and other violence in order to achieve their goals. Anybody who leaves would be considered a traitor and most likely will have a bullseye on their forehead. There is also the case of the friends and family you may have in the group that you would not want to leave behind, but would be even more reluctant to leave with you.
I envy your rose colored view of the world, but it is sadly not so in reality.

I mean easy relative to the burden of staying it is easy.

I'm sorry, I can't accept such a convenient excuse to remain such an active bully.

I think the biggest thing keeping people in neo-nazi groups is their racism and their joy of wielding such power in a large group.

 

[El Luck]

I'm sure they're worried that the NEO-NAZIS who didn't get the message are upset at them. The one's who didn't get the message are as thick-headed, and intelligent, as rocks. I'm surprised most of the skinheads can make it outside in the morning without accidentally killing themselves on their breakfast cereals.

That's a stereotype. I'm not Neo-Nazi, but the right-wing extremists I have known are all intelligent, thoughtful people. Construe their politics as wrong all you want, but don't underestimate their mental capabilities. They are people too.

Extremists by nature are not intelligent, thoughtful people. People, yes. Intelligent and thoughtful? They wouldn't be extremists. Extremists are hotheaded, narrow-minded egotists that have fallen to propaganda and hate rhetoric (which feeds off their own unchecked hatreds, no less), 99% of the time.

OT: As I have just watched American History X, I have to say I am more than pleased to see this. Skinheads and other racists piss me off to no end, and they either need to be detained until they are rehabilitated, or simply detained so they cannot hurt racial minorities in society any longer, simply for being a racial minority.

Not all Skinheads are racist, just putting that out there.

The majority, however, usually are. And to the point of vandalism and outright murder of minority ethnicities, no less.

No, they're not.

 

[O maestre]

EPIC WIN in a world embroiled in turmoil and uncertainty this is very welcoming. great and novel idea and brilliant strategy, as well as hilarious this. in one single move this PR stunt managed to;

a) piss of a bunch of nazi's
b) promoted a cause in a non violent and witty way
c) made me laugh

 

[Vrach]

Now that's what I call getting pwned. Well done

 

[silent_noir_67]

trolololol

That's awesome!! i wish more t shirts did that kinda thing!!

imagine if you bought a shirt but didnt know what it would say after it was washed...

 

[ShadowsofHope]

-Snip-

You apparently have yourself utterly convinced that everything and anything from ideologies in human history that has turned out bloody and ineffective is entirely left-wing in origin, and I must say I am sad that you have allowed yourself to come to such a flawed premises. However, it doesn't seem like much of anything with convince you otherwise, so I'll just leave you to it. Good day, sir.

 

[Griffolion]

"It's kind of pathetic that anyone spent money for something like that."

It's kind of pathetic that you're a member of a far right wing party, Gordon. Grow up and realise that the reality is not found in the extremities.

 

[CrazyGirl17]

I think the best response to this is: (Points) Ha-HAW!

 

[Commissar Sae]

Fascism is viewed as extreme right wing. The Nazis were socialists in nothing but name. Some of the techniques between Fascism and Bolshevism are similar but the major difference shows up when you take their views on people in. Fascism is about ultimate Inequality between people, covering everything from economic to race, while communism/bolshevism is about ultimate equality between people. Things never work out quite that well in the real world but that is really the divide.

You could not possibly be more wrong about what Facism actually is. It has nothing to do with "Inequality." In a Facist regime, all people, outside the government itself, are equal. They are equally worthless and expendable to the whims and desires of an all-encompassing government. To a Facist,the government is all that matters, and that government takes everything. How is that "right-wing," to anyone outside of the Frankfurt School?

Now that I put an extra second and a half of thought into it, that description of Facism does sound an awful lot like Communism/Bolshevism, don't it?

Unless you look at their Racial ideology. Thats were the equality bit comes in. The Idea of the Undermensch is a strictly fascist/nazi iddeology that has nothing to do with socialist views. If everyone outside the government was equal why the Holocaust? Why would there be a radically different treatment of Slavs compared to western POWs? To the Fascists blood determines your worth, so nobody is equal. The only place you have any real crossover wit the Bolsheviks is on the economic spectrum, where granted the two systems were pretty similar. Although The nazis maintained all the ultra-rich company owners while the Bolsheviks did a variety of unpleasant things to them.

Also it would be a mistake to confuse communism (extreme left)with Bolshevism (kind of all over the place). In the ideal Marxist world there is no government and everyone gets along as equals (never going to happen that why its utopian). The Bolsheviks ran roughshod over pretty much everything and everything was controlled by the state, still left wing but not pure communism.

 

[GonzoGamer]

I guess that the only ones that get the message are the ones who clean. I hope that those are the most likely to want to break from extremism.
Either way, I hope this wins a Cannes Lion.

 

[Comieman]

It would have been much better if ponies appeared on the newly washed T-shirts...

 

[Femaref]

250 of the shirts were donated anonymously to the festival by Exit Deutschland, a group dedicated to assisting people seeking to break free of the militant neo-Nazi lifestyle.

Once more. Anonymously donated by Exit Deutschland. Anonymously. By these people. What.

The actual donation was anonymously. As in, they claimed to be a nazi themselves and sent them the shirts.

 

[The_ModeRazor]

Oye. Extremists. Sooo love them. Worst fucking part is, just because someone is a goddamn nazi, doesn't mean they can't be intelligent. If they are stupid, you won't convince them about the wrongness of their beliefs, because they are too stupid to understand. If they are intelligent, they automatically assume that they must be correct because of this, and you also won't convince them.

Life ain't fair. Wasn't made to be.

 

[Hungry Donner]

Bravo Exit Deutschland, even if none of those people listen at least you've brought renewed attention to this situation.

250 of the shirts were donated anonymously to the festival by Exit Deutschland, a group dedicated to assisting people seeking to break free of the militant neo-Nazi lifestyle.

Once more. Anonymously donated by Exit Deutschland. Anonymously. By these people. What.

The actual donation was anonymously. As in, they claimed to be a nazi themselves and sent them the shirts.

Yeah, but it still sounds amusing. It's rather like when specific people in Anonymous act as spokespeople, it does makes sense but that doesn't mean we can't get a chuckle out of it.

 

[Ghengis John]

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It's funny that you'd allege racists hail from the left. I don't see the swarms of liberals voting to card Mexicans in Arizona or demanding our president's birth certificate. In otherwords, I don't expect you to be reasonable. All things however, change with time. One need look no farther than the career of Strom Thurmand to see how allegiances shift. I'd allege that the character of a bigot is such that they'll follow anyone who validates their irrational anger regardless of our attempts to try to try to fit them into any particular schema of being either separatist or adverse to change.

 

[Cool Welshy]

You know, the most funniest thing I see in this article is, there are hard rockers out there who wash.

 

[Amaror]

Since when were Nazis, of any ilk, "right-wing?" No, I'm dead serious when I ask that question. The name of the group gives away that it's a very left-wing ideal. The word "Nazi," after all, stems from the German word "Nationalsozialismus," which, literally, translates to "National Socialism." Are we really so far to the left that Socialism is considered "far right-wing?"

Then again, the "scholars" who place the Nazis on the "far-right" are all alumni of the Frankfurt School. The Frakfurt School was founded as the "Institute of Social Research" in 1923, by Carl Grünberg, as, for lack of a better term, a Marxist brain trust. With Hitler's rise to power in Germany, the Marxists saw the "far-right Socialism" as a major threat, and fled, ending up at Columbia University, and taking hold in the Ivy League.

So, yeah. I guess, to a group of Marxists, Socialism is "right-wing," by comparison. But, since the ACTUAL right wing, government should be small, and limit itself from the infringing it can do on the rights of others, the ACTUAL right wing has nothing to do with Socialism, or the Nazi party.

You're not really arguing about the political wing of Nazis, by translating the word "nationalsozialismus", right?
It's just a word. Besides you just concentrate on the "socialism" - part to prove your point, but that is just wrong.
The Name "Nationalsozialismus", doesn't come from some Marsists in Frankfurt. The NSDAP, the party Hitler was a member of, was trying to get the support of the Workers.
NSDAP is translated: National socialistic Worker Party Germany (really bad translated but i think the meaning becomes clear ^^)
That's why it is called "Nationalsozialismus".

 

[targren]

Extremism doesn't necessarily preclude intelligence. Leon Trotsky was a very clever man, to give the first example that springs to mind.

Yes, it does. Don't confuse "radical" or "revolutionary" with "extremist," they're different things. Extremism requires a dogmatic dichotomy, ("Good vs. Bad," "Us vs. Them", etc...) and the complete devotion of one of the extremes (thus the word). Blind adherence to dogma or propaganda is an indicator of weak intelligence.

 

[similar.squirrel]

I'm so glad the people who did this were stronger than I. Had I been in charge, these shirts would have been emblazoned with lurid depictions of male genitalia and Madonna lyrics. And all of that helpful stuff as well, of course. But mostly dicks.