Netflix Cuties becomes the next piece in an ever more idiotic culture war

Netflix's Cuties

  • Creative freedom should be fully free

    Votes: 6 23.1%
  • I believe in creative freedom but this isn't the hill to die on

    Votes: 19 73.1%
  • Ban this sick filth

    Votes: 1 3.8%

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CM156

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This film is about what girls really go through during that awkward phase of their life from when they go from being a child to a woman and the struggles and pressures they deal with from the world we live in. For some reason this reality makes some people's brains melt.

If guys can't even handle watching a movie about what girls really go through, how would they ever have even lived through with what girls actually go through? It's okay it is not as bad as some people's imaginations led them to think it is.
I'm entirely favor of those stories being told.
I'm not in favor of how this one was told. Or that it involved underaged actors doing these things for film.
 

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Ok...that's something a bit TOO personal that I never expected to hear from you guys.
I was raped, my sisters were raped, my best friend was raped, my cousin was raped, my own grandmother as raped. I think it is time we should be able to talk about this now. Obviously NOT talking about it isn't helping.

It being taboo to talk about is WHY it keeps happening so much.
 

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I was raped, my sisters were raped, my best friend was raped, my cousin was raped, my own grandmother as raped. I think it is time we should be able to talk about this now. Obviously NOT talking about it isn't helping.

It being taboo to talk about is WHY it keeps happening so much.
I entirely agree.
 

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This isn't even a movie about rape, so I don't understand why we're talking about this. This is about the crazy, yet totally normal antics that normal 11-year-old girls do, like strip to manipulate guys and take pictures of their vag for the 'gram. Truly normal coming-of-age type stuff.
 

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So was I. shut up. I was raped by a 24 yr old man. How can we expect girls to be able to talk about these things so they can have a less rough time than I did if people can't even handle discussing it? We have to be able to talk about it and address it or girls will continue to feel isolated and confused without getting help through it at all.

Hell and for boys, look at the stupid bro movies trying to make raping boys out to be some great thing that happened to them. People don't even bat an eye at that yet if people try to discuss it people still can't figure out how to do that.
My point is I won’t have you lecture me about this kinda shit. I’m not lecturing, I just don’t wanna have people arguing about a weird French movie that, like all French movies, is for weird French perverts. Don’t tell me I can’t “understand” the strangeness of sexualization and minors or some shit. I just know this will rapidly descend into another medicinal child porn fiasco.
 

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Dude...
You're talking about a very sensitive and personal topic. And now you're really pushing it.
You might want to reframe, or better delete that.
I deleted it, but what you said and what I choose to do out of your recommendation only furthers the idea of it being taboo to talk about in the first place.

And my question was done as way to try to assess the nature of the rape because as far as I know Rape could mean anything from something as physical as groping to something psychological as lewd comments.
 

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Ok...that's something a bit TOO personal that I never expected to hear from you guys.
I brought this up on these forums like seven years ago I don’t see the point in being apprehensive about it now.
 

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Meh, this is the kind of movie I'd never watch otherwise, but with all this controversy... and let me tell you... holy shit, it's just a watch and forget 5/10 movie. Obviously I don't know how the mind of a pedo works, because I watched it with a "ok let's watch this movie the internet told me was made for pedophiles" mentality and it's just kids doing stupid shit and dancing. That's literally what this is. A drama where the main kid Amy is torn between the traditional values in her home and the depravity and debauchery so characteristic of the french. There's one brief scene higher on the "wtf..." scale (the "striptease" and posting nudes to instagram scene), but there's 0 graphic anything, all the other girls are pretty normal, Amy is the only one acting stupid and none of her stupid actions are portrayed as something positive.

Even their dance the end of the movie is booed by a mildly disturbed audience, which to be fair if you're a normal person you'd be more comfortable watching women doing it. Then there's a shot of her dancing outfit and the dress she's supposed to wear to her father's wedding, and she goes down the stairs, dressed like a normal girl, to play with the other kids instead. SYMBOLISM, do you get it.

I suppose one of my favorite movies is more "disturbing" depending on how you look at it.

5/10 - I don't even have the energy to talk about this nontroversy.
Yeah the original cut of Leon was fucking weird.
 

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Don’t tell me I can’t “understand” the strangeness of sexualization and minors or some shit.
I don't think anyone is saying that.

But, viewed from the outside, I feel like you're talking about very different things using the same words, and each arriving at entirely legitimate perspectives on both those things.
 
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I'm entirely favor of those stories being told.
I'm not in favor of how this one was told. Or that it involved underaged actors doing these things for film.
Did you watch it?
I'm entirely favor of those stories being told.
I'm not in favor of how this one was told. Or that it involved underaged actors doing these things for film.
Just finished watching it, there is nothing wrong with how this was told except, I see they may have overly " demonized" girls wanting to dance and making it out to be something worse than it actually is. It is heavily influenced from that of a Abrahamic, ( Judaism Christianity, Islam) religious perspective of equating women's bodies to sin. Where in other religions there is no such connection made, nor do I see one that one should exist.
 

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My point is I won’t have you lecture me about this kinda shit. I’m not lecturing, I just don’t wanna have people arguing about a weird French movie that, like all French movies, is for weird French perverts. Don’t tell me I can’t “understand” the strangeness of sexualization and minors or some shit. I just know this will rapidly descend into another medicinal child porn fiasco.
Have you seen it? It isn't for weird french perverts at all. I finished watching it. The primary thing I actually dislike in the movie is not the girls dance or anything, but rather the heavily Abrahamic religious influence that the female body =sin. Other than that this was like PG rating at most. US movies they show on TV are a billion times worse than anything in this movie. If you haven't seen it, you should understand they are making a bigger deal out of it than it is.

The worst parts of the movie are the pressures from her family to make her feel bad about her own body and how they treat women all together like they are commodity rather than an equal human being with just as much say over their own person. It would be hell being brought up in a family that views and treats you like that. I am glad her mom finally stood up to her " auntie"'s bullying in the end but still, the extreme pressure they put on girls to view their own body in such a negative way is disturbing. What you wouldn't want kids exposed to isn't the dancing and girls being kids and having fun, That was all pretty innocent, but rather the toxic view of the female body and the stress put on a kid to conform to adults religious views.

In my culture, the indoctrination of children into religious beliefs like that is forbidden and seen as " grotesque" and severely wrong.
 
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The primary thing I actually dislike in the movie is not the girls dance or anything,
Can I put in a vote for all dance sequences are horrible by default? Anyone who can stay awake through old musicals deserves an award.
 

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This isn't even a movie about rape, so I don't understand why we're talking about this. This is about the crazy, yet totally normal antics that normal 11-year-old girls do, like strip to manipulate guys and take pictures of their vag for the 'gram. Truly normal coming-of-age type stuff.
It is pretty apparent you haven't seen it. None of what you said even happened. The kid stole the phone because she saw it as a life line and escape rope, freedom from her extremely oppressive family Abrahamic religious culture. It was her only piece of anything in this world outside of her family. When he took the phone back, she wasn't trying to manipulate him, she was desperate and willing to do anything to get her escape rope back. When he refused to let her have it, she took the picture in anger and desperation not as an attempt to manipulate. She didn't want to be seen as a child, but she very much was a child. She was lashing out, like a child screaming swear words he knows he is not supposed to say at their dad when angry.

I don;t think anyone who actually viewed this could think this kid was capable of manipulating anyone with the obvious mindset she had in the film.
 

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I misread the notification for this thread as “x posted in[...] there may be more idiotic posts after this” and I gotta say none of you have disappointed on that false impression.
 
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