New Indiana Jones Will Be an "Old Fashioned" Film

Trogdor1138

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I honestly loved Crystal Skulls and I know a lot of people that loved it too. It was no Raiders, but I still thought it was miles ahead of Temple of Doom which was always a mess of a film to me save for the introduction and finale which were great.
 

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No....NO...LEAVE INDY ALONE!!!

Let the franchise die in peace for gods sakes, it made its final dud as the crystal skulls were milked out for its last dime...fuck George Lucas...there raping my childhood!
 

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Does Shia LePouf count as a CG special effect? Because without him, I'd watch it.

When I read the headline, I was hoping they'd shoot it in 35mm, and edit using scotch tape and razors...
 

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Commence sarcasm: Yeeeeaaaaaaah, Shia Labeouf. WoOoOoOoOoOoO!!! I so want to see him in another terrific Indy movie.

Hurray for CG vine-swinging and laughing gophers.
 

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*sigh* A new rule to go into effect immediately: if it has been more than 20 years, a franchise is not to be restarted. No exceptions!

Ok, Crystal thing wasn't as bad as everyone likes to claim, but it was far from good. The vine swinging, the bloody fridge, the aliens, etc were awful, but the movie started out rather well. You had soviets instead of nazis, but that's fine. You had the initial action scene, a bit of social commentary, but then it went to shit when Mutt arrived. Just my $0.02...

Yeah, I'm probably going to see it, even if it's just to mock it...
 

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Baby Tea said:
Because people either can't see past nostalgia, or never truly 'got' what Indiana Jones was about: A tribute to the campy, over-the-top 1920s adventure comics with the all-American rugged hero. Kingdom of the Crystal Skull fits perfectly into that mold. People love the Ark causing heads to explode, but decry the nuked fridge. People love the guy ripping out a man's heart (and the man still being alive) and voodoo dolls, but scream about inter-dimensional beings.

I'll admit that Indy 4 wasn't as good number 1 or 3, but I'd put it on par with number 2.
And I can't wait for number 5!
That's not what made the film suck. It sucked on a very basic, film 101 level in my opinion. No vision, boring characters, stupid plot, horrific CG effects.

I agree, Indiana Jones is based on exploit adventure movies and I like that aspect of it a lot, but even on that they completely failed. The movie looked high polish, had these absolutely awful 'introducing the scene' shots of rats in a desert and was just poorly executed. I'd rather watch entertaining B movies like Tarantino movies or Planet Terror.

It wasn't outright horrible, but it was just so bland and irrelevant. It was a movie you walk away neither richer nor poorer. I might be one of the only people like liked the fridge scene, but I hated the alien plot. So shabbily executed and completely screws the idea of Indiana Jones being a mythical archaeologist that looks for 'religious artifacts'. I don't mind russians and a new settings, but why introduce aliens? Because of the 50's and Nevada and stuff? That's ridiculous.
 

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MorteSphere said:
wooty said:
I personally think they shouldnt of even made Kingdom in the first place, the series was already placed nicely in to hall of movie legends with the origional trilogy.
really, only the first one. The other two were shit.
What?!! Temple of Doom was admittedly sub-par, but The Last Crusade was epic.
 

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Billion Backs said:
I have to agree with Baby Tea, for once.

As far as unrealistic things go, there's nothing special about the 4th movie compared to the original trilogy.

Aliens are still more probable then "working" voodoo dolls, ripping people's hearts out, and I'm not even going to mention a fuckload of working relics artifacts from multiple religions - there were all the Christian things, the obviously-not-Christian magic stones from Asia, and so on.

You really got no ground trying to criticize the new Indiana Jones over it's campiness, (lack of) realism, or even plot. Acting, maybe, but I don't remember it being that much worse then the original trilogy in that department.
The difference is that the first 3 (and in my opinion only 3) movies all had to do with the occult in some way. Indiana Jones specialized in that sort of thing, the aliens were just Lucas and Spielburg taking a shit all over their previous work, just like Lucas did with the new Star Wars B.S.

Also, why does no one ever mention how stupid throwing the snake to Indy when he was in the quicksand was? It's terrible writing, they couldn't figure out a way to work snakes in so they had to do something completely ridiculous.
 

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Sure. I believe you.
*kiss*
I know it was you, George. You broke my heart.
You broke my heart!
 

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Colonel Dr. Irina Spalko was no Bellog.

There I said it.

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Here's my argument against the "campy B-movie" alabi:

Argument 1:
(circa 2008) Hey guys it's Steven Spielburg and George Lucas here. For almost thirty years we've been trying to create an Indiana Jones that resembles a campy B-movie and have had no such luck. Well we discovered what we've been doing wrong all this time, and now we're going to remove any moment where characters have conflicting feelings! Remember when Indiana Jones was about to destroy the arc to prevent the Nazis from gaining its power, only to hold back? Nothing like that will be happening in this story. Remember the scene where Short Round had to burn his mentor and father figure Indiana in order to wake him from the "Black Sleep of Kali Ma"? We won't be having any of that. Remember when Indiana tried to grab the holy grail until his father told him to "let it go"? Those naughty moments won't be happening.

We know that you will enjoy this much closer rendition of a campy B-movie as we have gotten rid of anything that would have made it better.


Arguement 2:
Hi guys this is Diners, Drive-ins, and Dives hot Guy Fieri. Throughout my career I've been trying to make the greatest American Peanut Butter and Jelly Sandwich. Well I feel that I finally came close to it. Usually I would do anything to make sandwich stand out in flavor and quality. I've decided that in this case I will be taking two slices of bread and putting only peanut butter and jelly in between them. I've decided also to get the products from the local super market. But I know you're really going to be surprised when you find out that I've gotten rid of all my special items in all my restaurants just to solely promote this amazing sandwich for the rest of my career!

I know you'll enjoy my peanut butter and jelly sandwich, as I stick to my goal of keeping it from standing out and making it extra special.

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There I said that too.
 

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It wasn't too bad a movie IMO, but I'm really not a fan of Shia and I think the Aliens were a bit crap. It could have been worse though... Hayden Christensen could have been in it!

I'm rather suprised with all these reboots that they haven't redone the Highlander movies...
Or have they done so and I haven't heard? I think the Highlander idea could actually be pretty good if done right. Do it in the style of something like Outlander (track it down and watch it, it's really, really good) and the movie could turn out awesome.