If I want retro games, I can get them on an emulator for my smartphone for free before paying $200 for a new system. Retro games are nice but they do not make a system "unbeatable".
Nintendo 3DS Exceeds 10 Million Units Sold in North America
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Well ya look at that.
And to think just a year and a half ago we had a bunch of "3DS is DOOOOMED" articles, Patcher saying Iwata should be fired, and a whole bunch of bankruptcy loons salivating at the mouth for Nintendo's inevitable smartphone jump.
People have short term memories though.
So I know for a fact that the next handheld that takes a little while to get off the ground will be met with the same bullshit.
And to think just a year and a half ago we had a bunch of "3DS is DOOOOMED" articles, Patcher saying Iwata should be fired, and a whole bunch of bankruptcy loons salivating at the mouth for Nintendo's inevitable smartphone jump.
People have short term memories though.
So I know for a fact that the next handheld that takes a little while to get off the ground will be met with the same bullshit.
I was worried about it a little back then, but I figured once the big hitters came out it would still be a success. Lo and behold it happened! Unfortunately like you said, the DS4/4DS/Gameboy Supreme will face the same doomy and gloomy predictions. I truly believe the 3DS proves that even in a market where smart phones are so wide spread, people will always want a dedicated handheld gaming system.Dragonbums said:
OT: Glad to hear it. I really love the 3DS a lot more than I could've ever imagined. If these trends of releasing quality games continue, it may become my favorite handheld system. Perhaps it already has!
Past: The 3DS will cause Nintendo to die and go third party!Dragonbums said:
Present: The WiiU will cause Nintendo to die and go third party!
Future: The Nintendo 5932 will cause Nintendo to die and go third party! (Hey, someday we will be right!)
OT: Not surprising, to say the least. The Vita is a great system but Nintendo simply dominates the handheld market.
Really I think all console and handhelds are met with doom and gloom this day and age. It's just people pay attention to the doom and gloom being said about the system or company they like instead of seeing how it is applied to all consoles.Hero of Lime said:
Yeah, I just wish people would wait longer to say, Console X is doomed because it only sold 300,000 in the first month or something like that. Though(maybe it's because I have more bias towards them)Nintendo seems to get more people saying their systems are more likely to fail. Sony and Microsoft get the same treatment too of course, which is just as silly.Neronium said:
The Iwata getting fired thing in particular has always been hilarious to me because it shows just how ignorant and ethnocentric Pachter is, thus trivializing his opinions even further. The way Japanese businesses are structured basically make it impossible for the CEO to lose their position other than through personal resignation. This is mostly due to Boards of Directors being comprised of people from within the company and mostly people selected by the CEO (y'know, kinda like a Cabinet). Furthermore, the structure also prevents shareholders from having any real power in the grand scheme of things. They can't really bully the Board or the CEO, leaving their influence to being little more than them shaking their fists impotently. Fascinating stuffDragonbums said:
Indeed, it's idiots who are asking for Iwata to step down, mostly for universally shallow, petty reasons that make them sound like a bunch of brats. It's rather pathetic. They try to use the Wii U's current state as some sort of reason, but anyone with a brain knows what's really going on. I'm glad Iwata's sticking around because it annoys those kinds of gamers.Redhawkmillenium said:
Adam Sessler has said he think Nintendo's entire executive branch should be fired. Iwata included. And I think we both know he's no "idiot saying that for shallow reasons". I think he knows more about Nintendo's thinking than you or myself.Aiddon said:
I personally think Iwata needs to step down. And to ignore the clear failure to move units of the Wii U as a reason for him leaving is a bit foolish of you.
The 3DS was selling at a loss until last June. And the profits it has made since then hasn't made up for the money lost on the Wii U.
I don't know how the hell both MS and Sony managed to make their consoles so well that they're selling them at a profit, but the fact that the Wii U is still selling at a loss per unit is very concerning.
People can praise the 3DS sales all they want. I just recently bought one for Monster Hunter 3 since its clear Sony is not getting the rights to that franchise back (grumble, grumble). But Nintendo has been posting losses for a couple of years now. They can shoulder the losses for a while, but Reggie showing up and looking like a lost child at the VGX awards isn't helping. Neither is Nintendo's lack of knowing how to market their product, something they haven't really had to do since......ever.
This is the first time Nintendo has had trouble selling a hardware product outside of the Virtual Boy, Phillips CD-i and the 3DS launch months. They have always sold on Name alone and now that they can't do that their Achilles Heel is showing.
That being that they don't know how to compete due to always doing really well or winning.
AzrealMaximillion:
Really? You cite Sessler as a credible source? Considering his track record whenever he speaks about Nintendo, I would like to say to him if I had the chance "Adam, you wouldn't happened to have ingested any illicit substances as of late, have you? Because you are clearly HIGH!" Considering how history goes, Nintendo has had the last laugh three times in a row despite people saying otherwise. I'm going to go with logic and evidence people's grudge over Iwata.
Really? You cite Sessler as a credible source? Considering his track record whenever he speaks about Nintendo, I would like to say to him if I had the chance "Adam, you wouldn't happened to have ingested any illicit substances as of late, have you? Because you are clearly HIGH!" Considering how history goes, Nintendo has had the last laugh three times in a row despite people saying otherwise. I'm going to go with logic and evidence people's grudge over Iwata.
You're a known Nintendo fan on these forums calling out the credibility of a person who's been involved in the industry for almost 20 years. You've also not provided any informed reasoning for why Adam Sessler's track record is "bad". It really seems to be simply you expressing your opinion and fandom for Nintendo.Aiddon said:
You've provided none of this evidence of Nintendo having the "last laugh" on anything. I'll agree that in terms of handheld consoles, they win unless you count mobile gaming in that category. In which case Nintendo has work to do.
In terms of console sales there has been no last laugh for Nintendo. The Wii sold well but ruined virtual all 3rd party relationships in its wake. The Gamecube suffered greatly from Nintendo failing to market the many great 3rd party games it had. And the N64, while providing us with many classics, was slaughtered by the PSOne in sales and in the amount of classics spawned.
If you look at Nintendo's history you'll notice that Every Nintendo console since the NES has sold less than the previous console up until the Wii.
NES: 61 million
SNES: 49 million
N64: 33 million
Gamecube: 21 million
If you want to have an honest debate about this, then start backing up your opinion with facts and this alleged evidence you have, because at this point it seems more like you're spouting out the typical fandom conjecture that Nintendo's extreme fans are known for.
Looking at the console number sales for Nintendo it shows that their core audience is shrinking. It also illustrates that the success of the Wii was a major fluke. A fluke that benefited mostly Nintendo and drove away a massive portion of 3rd party publishers.
Nintendo right now has a console that's been out for a year and is looking to be outsold by both its new competitors within the next 3 and a half months. They also have the only console on the market right now that's being sold at a loss and they do not have the game sales to call the Wii U a worthwhile project at the moment. And keep in mind that the 3DS also lost Nintendo a large amount of money when they basically had to drop the price of it by 33% within 6 months of its launch due to poor sales.
Let's have an honest debate here.
What makes Adam Sessler so untrustworthy other than him criticizing (accurately in my opinion) the ills of Nintendo.