Nintendo Responds To "Black Screen of Death"

TheDoomPenguin

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ZeroMachine said:
TheDoomPenguin said:
Xzi said:
TheDoomPenguin said:
I've played SSFIV online, used my DS flash cart, done everything that people say causes it and had no issues.
Flash cart? You know that the 3DS has an always-on DRM and sends information on everything you're doing with it to Nintendo every time you connect to a wireless network, right? Probably just a matter of time until they brick your system...

Just FYI.
You realize that Flash Carts use signed code from real DS games to launch on DSis and 3DSs, and that Nintendo would have to be insane/stupid/both to think they wouldn't get in legal trouble for bricking consoles that run code they don't like, so you're just just being an overly paranoid moron, right?

Just FYI.
You realize that bricking the consoles is well within Nintendo's rights, as it's in the EULA or whatever that comes with every system (as was stated in news reports on this very site), and that you're being obnoxiously rude by calling him a paranoid moron, right? Not to mention that I can only assume your flash cart is used to play pirated games which is, by all means, illegal.

Just FYI.
EULAs are generally not considered legally binding since you can't read them until after you purchase the item. Also, flash carts are useful for not carrying around 20-30 games with a portable system, not just for piracy. Either way, the way DS flash carts work with the DSi and the 3DS they would risk bricking people playing legitimate games if they bricked systems they suspected of running flash carts. Like I said, they use the boot code from legitimate DS games and show up as those games to the system. It's just boogey man language trying to scare people away from using them.
 

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I haven't gotten the error. I have however had my 3DS crash while playing Ghost Recon Shadow Wars. SSF4 works fine, but it all seems to be software related. Going to have to hold off on playing GR for a while until an update fixes things.
 

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Least it is only a small number, still odd though, you would think it would be happening to many systems everywhere. Especially if it's a bug in the system.

I think some people can't look after consoles properly tbh and have probably tried hacking it =\
It's always a "small number." PS2's DREs, the RRoD, the DS hinge crack...

No company, Nintendo or otherwise wants to admit they have a widespread issue, so it's still very likely they're playing damage control.
 

ZeroMachine

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TheDoomPenguin said:
ZeroMachine said:
TheDoomPenguin said:
Xzi said:
TheDoomPenguin said:
I've played SSFIV online, used my DS flash cart, done everything that people say causes it and had no issues.
Flash cart? You know that the 3DS has an always-on DRM and sends information on everything you're doing with it to Nintendo every time you connect to a wireless network, right? Probably just a matter of time until they brick your system...

Just FYI.
You realize that Flash Carts use signed code from real DS games to launch on DSis and 3DSs, and that Nintendo would have to be insane/stupid/both to think they wouldn't get in legal trouble for bricking consoles that run code they don't like, so you're just just being an overly paranoid moron, right?

Just FYI.
You realize that bricking the consoles is well within Nintendo's rights, as it's in the EULA or whatever that comes with every system (as was stated in news reports on this very site), and that you're being obnoxiously rude by calling him a paranoid moron, right? Not to mention that I can only assume your flash cart is used to play pirated games which is, by all means, illegal.

Just FYI.
EULAs are generally not considered legally binding since you can't read them until after you purchase the item. Also, flash carts are useful for not carrying around 20-30 games with a portable system, not just for piracy. Either way, the way DS flash carts work with the DSi and the 3DS they would risk bricking people playing legitimate games if they bricked systems they suspected of running flash carts. Like I said, they use the boot code from legitimate DS games and show up as those games to the system. It's just boogey man language trying to scare people away from using them.
If only it were that simple.

As Xzi said, enjoy your 250$ paperweight. I actually do sincerely hope you DON'T get bricked, I'd never wish that on anyone, but is it really that tough to carry those tiny games around? I'd err on the side of caution if I were you, friend.
 

Asuka Soryu

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Luckily I won't be buying a 3DS for a looong time. It'll probably be fixed by the time I get one.
 

icyneesan

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Oh noes! A brand new system has a slight flaw that causes it to not work properly. Its not like this hasn't happened to EVERY new piece of technology ever.
 

Snotnarok

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Tech demos for launch games, over priced, black screen of death, crap battery life. I still have no idea why this thing is selling. I'll keep my GBA SP thank you very much, better battery, tons of games and smaller.
 

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My mate got it while trying to hack the system to get Layton to work. (The 3DS one)

So to me it seems pretty obvious WHY this is occuring.
 

ENKC

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I'm just fascinated by the idea of a 'local Nintendo customer service centre'. Does Europe have these things like a garage in every suburb?
 

albear

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UK, played SSF4 online and saved stuff to the card but no problems to report here, my 3ds is working fine :D
 

Roxor

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I bet Microsoft appreciates the fault news being directed at someone other than them for a change.

I had no shortage of Blue Screens Of Death back in my Windows 98 and Windows XP days. Windows 7, on the other hand, seems to be so resistant that a hardware fault is needed to cause one.
 

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I bet Microsoft appreciates the fault news being directed at someone other than them for a change.

I had no shortage of Blue Screens Of Death back in my Windows 98 and Windows XP days. Windows 7, on the other hand, seems to be so resistant that a hardware fault is needed to cause one.
I don't remember any from XP personally that weren't caused by faulty hardware. Then again, it took me quite a while (and also a few Black Screens of Death - PC will not boot because "The following file is missing or corrupt: C:\Windows\System32\config\system") to realise that the memory had been faulty all along. 98 though, that's a whoooole new matter.

OT: Hopefully I'm missing something here - if it's an issue that's preventing some people from turning the consoles on to get to menus, is it even possible for them to download the update?
 

Roxor

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Slanzinger said:
Roxor said:
I bet Microsoft appreciates the fault news being directed at someone other than them for a change.

I had no shortage of Blue Screens Of Death back in my Windows 98 and Windows XP days. Windows 7, on the other hand, seems to be so resistant that a hardware fault is needed to cause one.
I don't remember any from XP personally that weren't caused by faulty hardware. Then again, it took me quite a while (and also a few Black Screens of Death - PC will not boot because "The following file is missing or corrupt: C:\Windows\System32\config\system") to realise that the memory had been faulty all along. 98 though, that's a whoooole new matter.
XP was way better regarding Blue Screens than 98. As a general rule, if it happened, it was caused by driver bugs. In my experience, usually the video driver, with a few from the sound driver every now and then.
 

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ZeroMachine said:
TheDoomPenguin said:
ZeroMachine said:
TheDoomPenguin said:
Xzi said:
TheDoomPenguin said:
I've played SSFIV online, used my DS flash cart, done everything that people say causes it and had no issues.
Flash cart? You know that the 3DS has an always-on DRM and sends information on everything you're doing with it to Nintendo every time you connect to a wireless network, right? Probably just a matter of time until they brick your system...

Just FYI.
You realize that Flash Carts use signed code from real DS games to launch on DSis and 3DSs, and that Nintendo would have to be insane/stupid/both to think they wouldn't get in legal trouble for bricking consoles that run code they don't like, so you're just just being an overly paranoid moron, right?

Just FYI.
You realize that bricking the consoles is well within Nintendo's rights, as it's in the EULA or whatever that comes with every system (as was stated in news reports on this very site), and that you're being obnoxiously rude by calling him a paranoid moron, right? Not to mention that I can only assume your flash cart is used to play pirated games which is, by all means, illegal.

Just FYI.
EULAs are generally not considered legally binding since you can't read them until after you purchase the item. Also, flash carts are useful for not carrying around 20-30 games with a portable system, not just for piracy. Either way, the way DS flash carts work with the DSi and the 3DS they would risk bricking people playing legitimate games if they bricked systems they suspected of running flash carts. Like I said, they use the boot code from legitimate DS games and show up as those games to the system. It's just boogey man language trying to scare people away from using them.
If only it were that simple.

As Xzi said, enjoy your 250$ paperweight. I actually do sincerely hope you DON'T get bricked, I'd never wish that on anyone, but is it really that tough to carry those tiny games around? I'd err on the side of caution if I were you, friend.
Nintendo has and will brick systems and games they don't like, DoomPenguin. It's a sad, sorry fact, but it's true. As the posters said before, err on the side of caution.