No Dubstep in gaming

[Coldster]

Well, the way I see it, dubstep doesn't belong in gaming because it doesn't fit. There really isn't an atmosphere that dubstep could help create or emphasize. If it IS going to be put into a game, that game should be something like a GTA or Saints Row game because that could make sense seeing as it can have its own radio station or something.

 

[Atmos Duality]

Meh. I've heard FUBAR techno tracks that are on par with, or worse than most of the Dubstep I've heard in some games (Armored Core: Project Phantasma has some truly fucked up techno tracks in it).

Musical context matters; injecting Dubstep into an intense/dramatic point in a game would be as appropriate as injecting a Rickroll into the score of the Spartacus ballet.
Or using one of Chopin's Nocturnes in a high-energy gun battle.
Or perhaps replacing the entire soundtrack of Jet Set Radio with Country Ballads.

It'd be hilarious if any of those things happened; but that's kind of the point when those games aren't meant to be funny.

So, if someone can find the proper theme and context for dubstep in a game, they have my graces to go right ahead.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

I'm curious about your overall impression of local heavy metal fans you called contemptuously "metal heads".

Well, to answer your question, there have been several threads in the past created by metal heads complaining about how the general populace view that genre, or youtube commenters of videos etc, etc, but then proceed to pretty much do exact same thing they were complaining about others doing. I.e., 'R&B/rap/dubstep etc etc are terrible and there's nothing good about them etc etc'.

I may not be the sharpest crayon in the box when the complexity of English language is involved, but I fail to perceive this as a ground to your former statement.
Let me quote the juicy part :

"this site is predominately populated by 'metal heads' who think shouting into a microphone and thrashing on a guitar for 8 minutes straight is the pinnacle of musical achievement."

Your call.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that amazing noise currently blasting through my speakers 'dubstep'?

Nope. It's a piece of good music, but it's not Dubstep.

What I mean is that metal heads are in no position to criticise the legitimacy of a genre of music, when their own isn't exactly up to par.

Granted, looking back now now, it doesn't really seem to make sense in the context of this thread.

I must not have been following a great train of thought when I typed it, so apologies if I derailed the thread too much.

 

[razer17]

Given that this 'dubstep' thing is being referred to as some kind of world consuming evil, I feel a bit silly about having to go look it up.

...

Okay, I'm back.

I wouldn't worry too much. It doesn't sound like anything that would appear in a game with the slightest vestige of class.

So you've Googled dubstep, and now your the authority on it, so much so that you can say any game to feature it would not be "classy". I have no idea how you even define a "classy" game. It's all about context. It wouldn't exactly work in Skyrim, but something futuristic like Deus Ex it might work.

It would be a good genre of music if a majority of dubstep wasn't done WRONG. Frankly, people think throwing some wubwubs every few seconds followed by a drop whilst fizzing in the background is good as the same tune plays over and over. Also mixing in lyrics just makes it sound worse.

This user here has posted a good example of what I mean. I know you like it my friend but the first 5 seconds was enough to force me into stopping the video.

Now Dubstep can actually sound tasteful when done right. E.G. mixing it with another genre such as techno.

How can art be done "wrong"? You might not like it, but plenty of others do, and since his videos have like 20 million hits each some people must like him. Just because his sound isn't as subtle as others doesn't mean he is worse, just different.

 

[JesterRaiin]

Nope. It's a piece of good music, but it's not Dubstep.

What exactly is the difference then? I'm curious, it sounds the same to me.

Not enough Wooob Wooob Wooob Wooob Wooob Wooob Wooob Wooob Wooob Wooob Wooob and Wooooooooooooooooo - drumdrumdrum, Woooooooooooooo - drum drum drum drumdrumdrum to ba called Dubstep ! ;D

This is a little closer to what Dubstep really is :
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I must not have been following a great train of thought when I typed it, so apologies if I derailed the thread too much.

No harm done. Just please, be careful with generalizations in the future.

 

[razer17]

i thank Kthulu for every game that does not have any dubstep in it. also i wouldn't worry about it it will go out of fashion soon

How so? It has been around since the late 90's, and has been popular since like 2007 or 8, and has exploded even more recently. People said the same about rock and roll, and techno and god knows how many other genres.

 

[Syzygy23]

That may be the crappiest youtube video I have ever seen.

OT: As long as I can turn it off I wont mind it. I will be intensely butthurt if it starts showing up in games like Deus Ex or Skyrim though.

While we are here, who wants to bet the Mass Effect 3 soundtrack will feature at least one dubstep song? I can feel it.

I'd like to see YOU produce a video like that with almost no budget.

Also, we ALL know they would never put dubstep in a game like skyrim or deus ex. The art styles and settings just don't fit that genre.

 

[Emperor Nat]

Personally I feel that Dubstep, like any other form of music, can be tremendously effective if applied correctly to the correct situation.

Just as I'm not a great fan of rap or hip-hop music, but juxtaposed to say a crime game or something similar it becomes a good way of setting the mood.

For Dubstep, if it ever does become used in game sound-tracks, I would certainly hope to see restricted to things such as arcadey-style top-down shooters... or possibly to heavily Sci-Fi themed brawlers/FPSes. Even then, only if it makes sense.

I do however think that playing a fast-paced game like BlazBlue, but with a more grungey/corporate-corruption/cyberpunk feel, with a Dubstep beat in the back would be pretty cool.

 

[JesterRaiin]

This is a little closer to what Dubstep really is :

Haha, I actually think I get it now XD still, that's a pretty exclusive genre. Like you have to have a *specific* sound to get in.

More seriously :
There's no way to precisely define any genre. Songs belonging to the realm of electronic music are probably hardest to classify, especially because most artists are very prolific and don't like to stay in their sandbox for very long.

I guess that after listening to a few hundred pieces one can recognize if given song belongs to some specific genre, but NOT what it exactly is. At least not without some doubt.

 

[fnartilter]

That may be the crappiest youtube video I have ever seen.

OT: As long as I can turn it off I wont mind it. I will be intensely butthurt if it starts showing up in games like Deus Ex or Skyrim though.

While we are here, who wants to bet the Mass Effect 3 soundtrack will feature at least one dubstep song? I can feel it.

Can you feel it, coming in the air tonight? Oh Lord.
You've been waiting for this moment all your life, Oh Lord?

Right. I recently started loving dubstep, it started with my friend getting me to listen to a few remixes that had great vocals, and built up from there. I don't exactly see it working in many games, per-say, it would have to be stylized, sort of like heavy metal and fantasy just go so well together. In SR3 you have an electronic/dubstep radio station in vehicles.

 

[II Scarecrow II]

Dubstep should not exist. Period.

There is no place for it in an intelligent civilisation. It is ear grinding, brain-grating NOISE. Hacks with no talent plagarise half decent music and then mutiliate it with their cat-scraped-along-the-road-by-an-18-wheeler soundboard, combined with... I'm genuinely not sure what it IS.

Dubstep should not exist. Period.

 

[Griffolion]

A lot of people like it... get over it and get on with your lives rather than trying to crusade against something that you don't like.

But... this is the internet, that's precisely what it was created for, right?

OT: I quite like dubstep, that must make me a neanderthal, CoD playing, cheeto eating, sister screwing subhuman.

 

[Monkeyman O'Brien]

And of course the dubstep remix.
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Anyway why would you want to restrict every game from trying something depriving many others just because its not exactly to your tastes? That is really quite pathetic.
But who cares, I am sure you are one of those "anything that is known by more than 3 people is mainstream and sucks so I will go back to listening to my scandinavian death metal" types.

I will go back to enjoying awesome music of every variety.

 

[Jazoni89]

Dubstep should not exist. Period.

There is no place for it in an intelligent civilisation. It is ear grinding, brain-grating NOISE. Hacks with no talent plagarise half decent music and then mutiliate it with their cat-scraped-along-the-road-by-an-18-wheeler soundboard, combined with... I'm genuinely not sure what it IS.

Dubstep should not exist. Period.

It shouldn't of existed further than it's East-London roots, that I can agree on.

*puts Hipster glasses on*

Then we would only have Burial-like Dubstep, and that's it, and I'm alright with that.

*takes Hipster glasses off*

 

[Andalusa]

Only place I've seen it in games is in the trailers.. the only reason they use it is because ubste is a popular genre of music right now. When it moves on, which it will, they'll just use whatever genre is popular at the time and we'll find someone making a thread complaining abou why that particular genre is so overused..

 

[SL33TBL1ND]

Music of any genre is great in a game, as long as it suits the tone of the game. If i heard the music from fallout 3 anywhere else i would hate it like no tomorrow. But in the context of the game it's great. Dubstep, in the right game might be great, to rule it out completely is just stupid.

This. I have never liked dubstep, but as soon as that Syndicate trailer came out it worked so well that I had to at least like that song.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

ehh?....so...you dont like dubstep?

.......GOOD FOR YOU

I havnt seen dubstep around all that much, besides it depends entriely on the game in question..what ever fits/feels apropriate

also your tslking about somthing thats entirly subjective, I could say I hate anything remotly orchstral...so lets keep that out of games

this.

i could say i want all heavy metal out of video games permanently (i'm pretty sure i'd get crucified and perma banned for even suggesting this on this website) but it's entirely subjective and there is no concrete validations to hold any factual proof.

i haven't really seen an overload in dubstep in anything lately...i mean sure it's become prevalent as a "mainstream" genre, but nothing over done imo..unless your looking for it.

 

[BaronUberstein]

Well, dubstep is only getting popular. It's bloody catchy in most places and great for action orientated scenes.

I think the dubstep played an excellent part in Saints Row the third for example.

If the mood calls for it, the games music will provide the atmosphere. If this atmosphere requires dubstep, so be it.

This.
Here's a good example of a movie trailer that works well with dubstep (the movie doesn't have dubstep in it, just the trailer).

That was painful to listen to, literally. I had to stop that video almost immediately. Dubstep makes my head and ears HURT. I understand some people LOVE that stuff, but I simply can't handle it, it fits no situation for me, unless the situation is meant to cause me physical pain.

I'm glad there isn't dubstep in that movie because that's a movie I want to see.

I mean, it's a strange situation as it's opinions and personal tastes; but at the end of the day I must say, let the market dictate what music is in what. I HOPE that I remain in the majority of the market, the people who don't like dubstep, but if it's more profitable to appeal to people who enjoy dubstep, so be it, I've got plenty of games and music that I can enjoy atm, and nobody dictates the soundtrack of tabletop games but the GM/DM.

Honestly, I don't mind dubstep existing (and I would have to be a rather large asshat to claim that just because I can't stand it, it shouldn't exist), somebody out there clearly enjoys it and thus, it isn't my problem! What IS my problem is when people blare it loudly during study hours in a thin walled building. When my gosh darned walls and floor are SHAKING from the bass. That's just inconsiderate. Please people, use headphones, consider the people around you.

 

[Pegghead]

So what? Not all dubstep is bad (case-and-point) and if it fits then by all means they should employ it as an alternative to the generic music that plagues most games (i.e unmemorable scores, crazy over-the-top 8-bit techno remix bollocks).

Oh sure, it would be totally out of place in something like Skyrim (imagine if it were a shout 0_0), but for some slick, fast-paced sci-fi game I'd embrace a dubstep soundtrack with open arms. In fact, I'm pretty sure Saint's Row 3 had a bit of dubstep in it (going off a few let's-plays and reviews here).

 

[HeOfMalice]

JesterRaiin is (seemingly) the only one in this thread that knows what Dubstep is. Everyone else is posting Brostep/Clubstep.

Spoiler: These are examples of actual Dubstep.

Edit: I missed IamLEAM1983's post, stating the origin of Dubstep, so he's also knowledgeable of real Dubstep.