No Dubstep in gaming

[Jazoni89]

I love how man of the same people who claimed they never liked techno LOVE dubstep. Debstep is just bad techno.

Okay, lets get one thing straight...

Dubstep has nothing at all to do with Techno. Not even a smudge.

Dubstep is a fusion genre of UK Garage, and Dub. UK Garage itself is a very British take on House, which was popular in the late 90's, early noughties. If you listen to a few UK Garage songs, you can easily tell that this is where Dubstep came from.

While I wasn't aware of the roots of Dubstep I compare it to techo because of its current use in popular music. For example: its use in the new Korn album (which all my friends like for some reason) is very similar to the use of techno in some Rob Zombie songs (mostly the techno remixes). They don't sound the same but they are both utilized in similar fashions. I'm not a huge music guy though so take that observation for what its worth.

Actually it was House that created most of the electronic genres today. Techno is one of them, so is Trance.

My advice, I recommend listening to the originators of the genre before writing a whole genre off. There always is at least something for everyone to like in a single genre, and you will become more open minded to music, and you have more of an appreciation for music like myself, as I like nearly all kinds (except for maybe classical, or R&B, but even then I could find myself at least one song I like from those genres.)

 

[Elemental]

Example of dubstep, pretty much the only dubstep song i like;


Listening to it by itself, most dubstep kinda sucks IMO, but i imagine that song, in a game like WipeoutHD and it would be great!

Skrillex is not fucking Dubstep, stop calling it that.

I already corrected myself about that post, but way to not read past that post and try to yell at me. Good Game sir.

In other news, this topic is about genres of music in games, not about whether you like dubstep or not.

WHY DON'T YOU BUY ME FLOWERS!?

 

[Aggressor and Usurper]

Breakcore is objectively the best genre of dance music anyway.

 

[Bekn]

Dubstep is a phase that will last a couple of years (if that) and be done with. It's all the rage right now but I am sure that things will change and the genre will disappear bar a few stragglers trying to bring it back. Just look at the evolution of electronic music and every subgenre that has branched off of it to varying degrees of success. It's just a matter of time until people get bored of it.

 

[Awexsome]

I call bullshit on this, "Dubstep is shit and taking over everything with it's WUB WUB WUB crap".

I never find ANYTHING dubstep related in my movies, games, tv shows or anything else at all. The only time I've ever run across dubstep is when I consciously went to a youtube video for it after browsing through original soundtracks and seeing a remix in the related videos.

 

[daveman247]

Eh, if it works with the game then its fine. The way i see it certain musical genres work well with genres of games/ films.

- Electronic music works well with sci-fi stuff. It just does ^_^

- More orcestral things work well with fantasy stuff. It just does ^_^

- Country music works well with westerns. It just does ^_^

Like many have already said, i dont like dubstep just to listen too really, but it seems to work well for action scenes in things. So, good times ^_^

Then again, im a fan of electronic/ house music. So maybe im more predisposed to let it invade things a bit.

 

[Fieldy409_v1legacy]

You can't restrict games like that just because of your personal taste. That's ridiculous!

 

[legendp]

considering your post was on the 29th of January I don't expect an reply, but I will try. Have you listened to any of the mt eden stuff, it is much slower and not so random

 

[MOXron]

considering your post was on the 29th of January I don't expect an reply, but I will try. Have you listened to any of the mt eden stuff, it is much slower and not so random

Yeah! Mt. Eden! NZ Dubstep represent!
I know I'm bumping this after a day, but I couldn't help but notice that barely anyone has mentioned the dubstep in Saints Row: The Third. I know if you aren't a fan of dubstep, it won't mean much to you, but whoever made the dubstep in Saints 3 is a genius. It's the best mission complete music I've ever heard in a game, it gets you pumped that you managed to complete that mission, and even makes you feel prepped for the next. So as I've seen mentioned a few times, as long as the dubstep fits the feel/ vibe of the game, then it suits. Sometimes...fantastically:

 

[MEEBO17]

Wow there is a lot more hate on dubstep in this thread than i would of predicted...Now, thinking of it in games, it depends. I could see it fitting into a few genres, but not too many.

 

[deidara]

Well, dubstep is only getting popular. It's bloody catchy in most places and great for action orientated scenes.

I think the dubstep played an excellent part in Saints Row the third for example.

If the mood calls for it, the games music will provide the atmosphere. If this atmosphere requires dubstep, so be it.

This.
Here's a good example of a movie trailer that works well with dubstep (the movie doesn't have dubstep in it, just the trailer).

I don't like Dubstep, but it does work really well in that trailer. If games are planning to use it, it's probably because they found it to work well in whatever scenario.

 

[Jekken6]

Dubstep isn't in most games, because it generally doesn't fit many contexts, and even if they tried, it wouldn't really work, except at a level that's a nightclub or something similar.

And i watched the syndicate trailer and I thought having dubstep in there was shit. Industrial Rock/Metal probably would've worked better, imo.

 

[SenseOfTumour]

Who thinks 1930s rhythm n blues, early jazz, classic musical numbers and the like have no place in modern gaming?

The Fallout series and Mafia would like a word, is all.

Classical? Death Metal? Rap? Modern Jazz? Country? See almost any sandbox game with a 'car radio' system.

You can't just say a genre can't work in gaming. You can say a genre can't work for a specific game, however.

I sense Wipeout would have lost a certain something with Fallout 3's soundtrack.

Mortal Kombat may have been a little strange with Katamari's musical styles, too.

To me, Dubstep feels like an evolution of the Big Beat genre so popular in the 90s and 00s, Fatboy Slim, Chemical Bros etc.

I feel this, being a good ten or so years old, still has some kinda similarity to the dubstep of today -


(and it's got one of the creepiest videos of its time, too. Shows you can do horror without gore, imo)

 

[Vault101]

would somone mind showing me the differneces between electro and house?

 

[Steinar Valsson]

First of all, I'm just happy the new teen-wave isn't visable in games.

But dubstep is just like any other music, tones mashed up in a sequence. Some like it, others don't. If dubstep would fit in a scene, it would be right for that scene in the game/movie/anime...

 

[funguy2121]

There is a similar thread like this somewhere on the interwebs but that one was far too messy and i'd rather not get into the details.

I'm not here to discuss whether Dubstep is good or not (for me, it clearly isn't) but i get the feeling its kind of trying to trap me by featuring in everything i do (like TV, hanging with my friends and maybe even Anime) and one by one, these outlets of my life are falling to Dubstep (im not sure if thats the right word)

Point is, id like to keep dubstep out of atleast one of these things (preferably anime and gaming. I know there is no dubstep in anime yet but you never know)

How i see dubstep: Dubstep is some creepy sex offender from across the street who keeps eyeing me up and he has already seduced many of my friends and when im alone and enjoying a hobby peacefully, its attempting to do the unthinkable and if i report what its doing to me to my mates, they'll just dismiss it and tell me to lighten up and enjoy it.

Where i am getting the idea that Dubstep is invading gaming: SSX and Tekken Tag Tournament 2 (I was really looking forward to both these games) aswell as other titles not worth mentioning

Its a long description so ill just cut to the chase. Keep Dubstep out of gaming. Idc if people enjoy it. Just enjoy it elsewhere.

Why compare a style of music THAT YOU DON'T GET to a child molester? I could understand if the "perp" were bubblegum pop, but it's not. I say MORE dubstep in gaming. Also: SSX and Tekken sux in my humblest of opinions so it's not like a fabulous gaming experience is being ruined. Now, if dubstep were to pop up in Dark Souls or Little Big Planet I may have a problem with it.

Not everyone likes the things you like. Similarly, not everyone hates what you fear what you don't understand. Calm down. Let's talk about NDAA or something.

 

[Thatguyky]

I don't think Dubstep will be "invading" video games. Sure, you might hear a couple Dubstep tracks here and there during certain fast paced games. In honesty it seems to fit in crazy situations (if done right). I thought the Dubstep song in the SSX trailer was pretty awesome.

The only time a certain kind of genre shouldn't be in a video game/scene is when it kills the mood. If you aren't open to certain genres it'll feel like the mood is being killed A LOT more often. Learn to love/respect all music; it's ALL good for something!

 

[Generalissimo]

i would love to see a remix of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QyQ9PsOj6A&feature=related

anyway, i don't think dubsteb would work in games. why? because it may not suit the situation, and that is one of the main things about game music right?

 

[ryuksapple]

First off, what is there to crusade against except for things you don't like?

The real question is, "Why do you feel the need to crusade in the first place?"

Secondly, since when was money a measure of talent or artistic ability. For example, Rebecca Black made more money than many Indy bands out there. That doesn't in any way make her more talented. As far as making art that appeals to the masses, I don't know if that should really even be considered a good thing. The role of art in culture is to channel the artists expression into something that challenges society, strongly held beliefs, or at the very least makes a cultural statement. Those goals often run in the opposite direction of appealing to the masses. I can respect their prowess as businessmen, but not necessarily as artists.

It's kind of offensive of you to compare Rebecca Black to some of the good dubstep artists out there. It shows that you really don't understand music, especially not electronic music.

Rebecca Black went into a studio and sang shitty for like an hour and then she left the studio and went home while other people tried their hardest to make her sound good. People like Skrillex spend days tweaking midi instruments to find the perfect harmonic synths through resonance and cutoff adjustments and tweak the LFO just right to get that perfect wobble that you hear. To ignore the creativity and talent involved is just, well, plain ignorant.

I've been making electronic music and playing guitar for a good decade now as well as teaching intermediate music theory, and I can safely say that I emote just as much through my electronic music as I do through my guitar. Making music on the computer is like shaping clay or painting a picture in that you keep working at it and making adjustments until it feels right. Listen to "With Your Friends" by Skrillex and tell me it's not artistic.

Tell you what, here's a dubstep song I made by sampling a shitty guitar riff I played. It's not groundbreaking or amazing, but I think it's alright. Even if it's the worst song in the world, it doesn't matter, if dubstep takes no talent to make, you should be able to make a song just as good or better. There are plenty of free DAW's out there, I dare you to download one and make something better than this.


You can't.

I've been working in Fruity Loops for years and I still am awed by how flawless and perfectly made some of the best dubstep songs are. I understand if you don't like it, but it's offensive to call us talentless just because you don't know what your talking about.

You're just as bad as the people who called rock soulless and "hate" music.
You're just as bad as the people who called funk the death of jazz.
You're just as bad as the people who called jazz the butchering of classical instruments.
You're just as bad as Roger Ebert.

Edit: There's also some Radiohead song I sampled, but I forget what its called.

I feel like you missed the entire point of my post. I was not in any way attacking dubstep or its creators (though let the record show that I do, indeed, dislike it). I was attacking that one person's argument that implied money is a viable measure of talent or artistic ability. It had absolutely nothing to do with Skrillix or Dubstep. I would say the exact same thing if somebody had replaced the name Skrillix with Madonna, Lady Gaga, or Maroon 5. All I said is that money is only an indication of business skills and has no bearing what so ever on artistic talent or ability.