No Man's Sky Wins Lawsuit Against "Sky" Trademark Holder

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No Man's Sky Wins Lawsuit Against "Sky" Trademark Holder

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Yes, Sky TV claims to own the word "Sky", and almost forced No Man's Sky to change its name.

Frivilous lawsuits over who owns what words crop up every so often in the gaming world. There was the one with No Man's Sky [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/131475-Candy-Crush-Saga-Studio-Trademarks-the-Word-Candy], and British broadcasting network "Sky TV" - who claims to own the word "Sky".

Thankfully common sense has prevailed this time, and Hello Games boss Sean Murray has confirmed that after a three-year-long secret legal battle, SkyTV has agreed to settle, allowing the game to keep its name.

"We finally settled with Sky (they own the word "Sky")," Tweeted Murray [https://twitter.com/NoMansSky/status/743928033942315009?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw]. "We can call our game No Man's Sky. 3 years of secret stupid legal nonsense over."

If you are right now scoffing at your computer monitor, thinking "Of course common sense would prevail! There is no way a court would rule in Sky's favor over the word 'Sky'," then it may interest you to know that in January 2014, Sky forced Microsoft to change the name of its cloud-storage service from Skydrive to Onedrive.

So No Man's Sky will continue to be No Man's Sky (instead of No Man's One), at least until some crackpot claims to own the word "Man".

Source: Twitter [https://twitter.com/NoMansSky/status/743928033942315009?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw]

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Mr.Mattress

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Okay, we really need to make it that companies cannot copyright common words like "Sky" and "Play". It's so insanely stupid that America's copyright system hasn't been fixed to avoid this idiocy, although I am glad that the copyright offices have at least kept most of the common words safe. "Sky" should not be copyrighted.

It's also good that No Man's Sky isn't being tampered with by copyright idiocy as well. I look forward to this game when it comes out to PC.
 

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Ok so i know the copyright, trademark, patent etc culture is incredibly stupid and broken, but how in the hell can you copyright the dam word sky, soon the word air or dirt will be next on the list, Sky TV makes sense as a copyright, but no the word sky, and they are 2 different mediums copyright should not destroy every single medium that has no connection.
 

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Mr.Mattress said:
Okay, we really need to make it that companies cannot copyright common words like "Sky" and "Play".
See, "SkyTV" would be a perfectly valid trademark, since it's very distinct. But just the word "Sky"? That's when we know you're trolling. Under no circumstances would a normal person confuse "No Man's Sky" with "SkyTV"; the entire purpose of trademarking is supposed to be keeping other entities from undermining or taking advantage of your brand's name.
 

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Excuse me. I need to go file some trademark applications after reading the end of this article (twirls mustache evilly while walking away laughing...)
 

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Steven Bogos said:
So No Man's Sky will continue to be No Man's Sky (instead of No Man's One), at least until some crackpot claims to own the word "Man".
Claiming ownership of the word Man? Nah not gonna happen.

Claiming "No Man's Sky" is sexist, on account of the word Man, and should be changed to the gender neutral "No Person's Sky" seems MUCH more likely.
 

Saltyk

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Step 1) Create a company named "The Inc"
Step 2) Copyright the name
Step 3) Profit
 

FalloutJack

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Well, looks like someone just...took the Edge off.


Again. Well, they deserved it. Idiots.
 

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Burnhardt said:
Steven Bogos said:
So No Man's Sky will continue to be No Man's Sky (instead of No Man's One), at least until some crackpot claims to own the word "Man".
Claiming ownership of the word Man? Nah not gonna happen.

Claiming "No Man's Sky" is sexist, on account of the word Man, and should be changed to the gender neutral "No Person's Sky" seems MUCH more likely.
I now expect Marvel & DC to sue everyone & each other until the rest are force into Political Correctness. Especially when it comes to who ends up being renamed to Wonder Person
 

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I mean, I'd like to be happy, but I can't help but notice the word: "Settled" in their victory tweet. This leads me to think that rather than the judge taking one look at the case, frowning before giving the prosecuting lawyer a clip 'round the ear and told to bugger off, it's more likely that the developer's paid for the right to use it, either by a lump sum or worse, royalties...
 

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Like many others here, despite seeing some of the mind boggling stupidity of copyright laws, the laws still find new ways to absolutely shock me. The lawyers working for Sky can go fuck themselves.

On an unrelated note ...

Burnhardt said:
Steven Bogos said:
So No Man's Sky will continue to be No Man's Sky (instead of No Man's One), at least until some crackpot claims to own the word "Man".
Claiming ownership of the word Man? Nah not gonna happen.

Claiming "No Man's Sky" is sexist, on account of the word Man, and should be changed to the gender neutral "No Person's Sky" seems MUCH more likely.
Jacked Assassin said:
Burnhardt said:
Steven Bogos said:
So No Man's Sky will continue to be No Man's Sky (instead of No Man's One), at least until some crackpot claims to own the word "Man".
Claiming ownership of the word Man? Nah not gonna happen.

Claiming "No Man's Sky" is sexist, on account of the word Man, and should be changed to the gender neutral "No Person's Sky" seems MUCH more likely.
I now expect Marvel & DC to sue everyone & each other until the rest are force into Political Correctness. Especially when it comes to who ends up being renamed to Wonder Person
... my god, this fucking site. How does a story about some company making outrageous copyright claims somehow spring up a discussion circle-jerk about sexism and political correctness?
 

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FalloutJack said:
Well, looks like someone just...took the Edge off.


Again. Well, they deserved it. Idiots.
That was magnificent, my good sir. Hats off to you.


I believe we can all agree copyright law could you some revision to prevent claiming common words shenanigans. Then again, those same idiots and media groups like them are incessantly lobbying against any change, so it's probably not going to go away any time soon.

Makes me wonder if anyone has ever been bold enough to try to make a copyright claim on Earth.
 

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Good lord. If this isn't further proof that trademark law needs to outright die, I don't know what it.
 

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Having ownership over common words is stupid. Fair enough if it's a noun you made up and which is established in your work. I wouldn't try to write a book with a main character called Aragorn or Samus Aran. But 'sky'? Crazy.

Weresquirrel said:
I mean, I'd like to be happy, but I can't help but notice the word: "Settled" in their victory tweet. This leads me to think that rather than the judge taking one look at the case, frowning before giving the prosecuting lawyer a clip 'round the ear and told to bugger off, it's more likely that the developer's paid for the right to use it, either by a lump sum or worse, royalties...
Yeah, they were pretty ambiguous. I really hope that's not the case.
 

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I bet the devs are currently singing:
Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand. I don't care, I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me. ;-)
 

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The Rogue Wolf said:
Mr.Mattress said:
Okay, we really need to make it that companies cannot copyright common words like "Sky" and "Play".
See, "SkyTV" would be a perfectly valid trademark, since it's very distinct. But just the word "Sky"? That's when we know you're trolling. Under no circumstances would a normal person confuse "No Man's Sky" with "SkyTV"; the entire purpose of trademarking is supposed to be keeping other entities from undermining or taking advantage of your brand's name.
You can trademark it. But it doesn't mean you will win, in fact you will almost definitely lose, if the other party isn't in the same business as you.

Edit: In fact, with trademarks you are obligated to sue just to be on the safe side as you can lose your trademark if you don't defend it.
 

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FirstNameLastName said:
Like many others here, despite seeing some of the mind boggling stupidity of copyright laws, the laws still find new ways to absolutely shock me. The lawyers working for Sky can go fuck themselves.

On an unrelated note ...

Burnhardt said:
Steven Bogos said:
So No Man's Sky will continue to be No Man's Sky (instead of No Man's One), at least until some crackpot claims to own the word "Man".
Claiming ownership of the word Man? Nah not gonna happen.

Claiming "No Man's Sky" is sexist, on account of the word Man, and should be changed to the gender neutral "No Person's Sky" seems MUCH more likely.
Jacked Assassin said:
Burnhardt said:
Steven Bogos said:
So No Man's Sky will continue to be No Man's Sky (instead of No Man's One), at least until some crackpot claims to own the word "Man".
Claiming ownership of the word Man? Nah not gonna happen.

Claiming "No Man's Sky" is sexist, on account of the word Man, and should be changed to the gender neutral "No Person's Sky" seems MUCH more likely.
I now expect Marvel & DC to sue everyone & each other until the rest are force into Political Correctness. Especially when it comes to who ends up being renamed to Wonder Person
... my god, this fucking site. How does a story about some company making outrageous copyright claims somehow spring up a discussion circle-jerk about sexism and political correctness?
I think it was a joke. At least I hope so.

OT: Remember how bad the developers got it when this game got delayed? Imagine how bad it would have been for Sky TV and the Judge if NMS lost.
 

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Har! I'd be more worried about the handlers who exploit Grumpy cat to claim ownership over the word, 'no'.
 

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Mr.Mattress said:
Okay, we really need to make it that companies cannot copyright common words like "Sky" and "Play". It's so insanely stupid that America's copyright system hasn't been fixed to avoid this idiocy, although I am glad that the copyright offices have at least kept most of the common words safe. "Sky" should not be copyrighted.

It's also good that No Man's Sky isn't being tampered with by copyright idiocy as well. I look forward to this game when it comes out to PC.
That would already be the case if the legal people were being consistent, and not just doing stuff on a whim.

Around about 1994 or 1995, intel lost an attempt to claim trademark on '586' (thus, the pentium processor).

But on top of that, as a general rule, trademarks are not universal.

If you make kitchen knives under the name 'sharp edge blades', and somehow trademark 'edge'.
You have absolutely no legal basis for stopping a Computer Game from using 'edge' in it's name. Nor a baker, or someone who makes cars, or planes or whatever.
You will be able to stop other knife makers from using the name, and at a stretch maybe a company making chainsaws or something, but on existing legal principle, that's how it's supposed to work.

Of course... Reality is different these days, hence these constant, stupid lawsuits.
(And certainly a company like 'google' does so many random things their trademark over the world 'google' could well be enforced against allmost anything.)