No Right Answer: Best Disney Villain Redux

Evil Smurf

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Once again, wrong. The Emperor/Darth Sidious is the best Disney villain. I understand why he did not win though, he's an alien and this video is racist :p
 

RTR

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Just this morning, by pure coincidence, I was thinking about how Gaston from Beauty and the Beast, of all the villains in major Disney movies, is probably the most unlikeably creepy villain. To use part of a discussion started by Moviebob on Twitter, most Disney villains may be evil, but their goals are usually either aquiring power (political or otherwise) or being bad just for being bad (Maleficent). In BatB, Gaston's motivation is to have Belle all to himself. Because it's Disney, it's never made to be anything more explicit other than Gaston having Belle as basically a trophy. However, the creepy subtext is still undeniable.

This may not make him the best villain, but it sure makes him the most despicable.
 

RTR

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Also, on a sort of unrelated note, Esmeralda definitely sent me mixed messages about the general "look" of gypsies.
 

RTR

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Also, I would throw in Lotso from Toy Story 3, but maybe that's better saved for a best Pixar villain debate.
 

McFazzer

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Does Darth Vader count as a Disney Villain now? Because if so it's him. (I also like Dr Facilier because voodoo, don't mess with it fools!)
 

Bobbety

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Honorable mentions to Chernabog and The Horned King for being pure evil... Also this:

 

Darth_Payn

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Great use of captions in the pictures! Dan had me laughing all the way through his description of Frollo at the House of Mouse, and that spit-take was epic! Even I can't decide who should have won!
 

Lunar Templar

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Malifecent has more swagger though, there's a certain class to her that Frolo just does not have. Besides, Frolo loses points from being just another evil religious guy, and we've had enough of those in real life
 

Pickapok

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Am I the only one who noticed that they mistakenly labeled Despicable Me as a Dreamworks film?
 

Strain42

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They should go ahead and do best Pixar villain at some point. I mean c'mon, there are so many great choices to choose from.

Hopper, Stinky Pete, Randall, Syndrome, O.T.T.O., Charles Muntz, Lotso Huggins, Axlerod, and I mean those are just the ones with real villains, not counting general antagonists like Sid, Skinner, Dr. P. Sherman (or Darla) Anton Ego, Fergus, or Hardscrabble.

And for the record, I think Hades should have been eligible for this contest. I don't know anyone who watched Hercules and didn't like Hades more than the titular character. He's just so much more fun and lively. Yeah he doesn't have a song, but neither does Maleficent
 

BomberJacket

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RTR said:
Just this morning, by pure coincidence, I was thinking about how Gaston from Beauty and the Beast, of all the villains in major Disney movies, is probably the most unlikeably creepy villain. To use part of a discussion started by Moviebob on Twitter, most Disney villains may be evil, but their goals are usually either aquiring power (political or otherwise) or being bad just for being bad (Maleficent). In BatB, Gaston's motivation is to have Belle all to himself. Because it's Disney, it's never made to be anything more explicit other than Gaston having Belle as basically a trophy. However, the creepy subtext is still undeniable.

This may not make him the best villain, but it sure makes him the most despicable.
I find Moviebob's insights especially interesting in the case of Judge Frollo. His motivations are different from the vast majority of his peers in the House of Mouse. Frollo doesn't want power; he already has power. He's also not being bad for the sake of it because he thinks he's the good guy. Frollo's twisted moral compass is what makes him such a compelling villain to me. And his position on the gypsies in the movie isn't completely indefensible. The Court of Miracles (a large gypsy community) counts among its members thieves, murderers, smugglers, and fraudulent beggars. In a different movie, Clopin (the gypsy ringleader) could easily have been a villain in his own right.

Speaking more abstractly, Frollo represents a lot of real-world issues including bigotry, zealotry, autocracy, and the acceptable use of force. He also contrasts quite well with the Archdeacon and Quasimodo with regards to religion. While the Archdeacon advocates mercy and sanctuary and Quasimodo sees even unrequited love as a miracle, Frollo's faith comes primarily from fear of damnation.

Maybe he's just too real to be a classic Disney villain, but I love him as a nontraditional one, and I'd love it if in the future they'd experiment with villains more like him.
 

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Maleficent was the master mind behind all evil things in Kingdom Hearts

Point 1 for Maleficent
 

Something Amyss

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Darth Vader: Obi-Wan never told you what happened to your father."

Luke: He told me enough. He told me you killed him!

Vader: I am your father.

Luke: No!!!

Frolo: Damned Jedi...*throws them both down pit*


...Yeah, that's the image I get after this episode.