SilverStuddedSquirre said:
So Batman fought Cap to a standstill. Spider-Man Killed batman, my takeaway: Spider-Man > Cap or Bats.
Makes sense. I've read a number of comics where Spiderman has trouble fighting a normal athletic human. Particularly the Tarantula. Someone probably realized, this guy is supposed to have the proportionate strength of a Spider. I saw an illustrated grouping once of various Marvel heroes by physical strength. They had Spiderman grouped with the Thing.
Yeah, whoever the script has winning does win. Batman fought the hulk and others to a stand still in one cross over. Silly. Logically? Batman and Cap couldn't land a finger on Spidey and if they did, it wouldn't hurt him.
rekabdarb said:
Gorfias said:
Batman and Cap have fought!
Yeah! in DC VS Marvel comics. Captain America lost, but Batman still saved him, because he realized that Cap was lawful good.
Does Batman pull his unconscious body from a waterway? Rings a bell. I recall a thought bubble with one of them thinking they'd never been so evenly matched.
Uhm. anyways Superman can't be 'american' considering he gave up his american citizenship in the comics fairly recently.
It's Superman. He could turn back time and talk the founders into changing the Constitution. I'm sure he'd find a way.
To counter Kyle's argument of Steve Rogers is just a abilities from a vial, not so. Merely his physical abilities. Steve Rogers became the man he is because he wasn't the strongest or the best. He was chosen (at least in the movies) for that reason to become the person he now is.
As the doc says. Because he is a good person. His having been puny and facing insurmountable odds but standing up for right anyway is all pure good, admirable, character.
Superman gets props from me for having all that power, but resisting using it for evil.
Bad movie with Peter Weller once had him propose that Satan got it all wrong. Of course Job remained holy after being cursed. G-d was all an impoverished and crippled Job had left. But if Satan had given Job everything he could ever want, his ego might have gotten the better of him, causing him to become depraved. That's a trap Superman stayed out of.
You do note Superman has lead at times things didn't work out.
Do you recall which side Cap was on in Marvel's Civil War? Was he in the right? I don't recall the answer myself. Just asking.