No Right Answer: Videogame That Should be an MMO

[Moloch Sacrifice]

Up until ME3 the Bioware team had no idea what female Salarians, Turians, or Krogan would look like. Considering two of these three were wearing space burkas for no explained reasons(what is lore?), I'm willing to bet they still haven't figured out how the females are suppose to look like cause their design team's minds are too wrapped around tits and ass defining what is female.

I thought the Krogan "Space Burkha" was actually well designed and very consistent with lore. ME lore is very clear about how isolationary the female clans are; even going so far as to recruit a male representative. It would therefore make sense for the females to try to perpetuate that isolation and distance when they have to make an appearance in person. Also of note is that whilst the Krogan "space burkha" is concealing, it is still suitable for combat; the robe ends above the knee, allowing for mobility, whilst the head is covered by several metallic components which likely act as additional armour.

 

[jdarksun]

Man, that cupcake thing was so goddamn terrible. That has to be the worst case of passive aggressive "fan" bullshit ever.

 

[TheBelgianGuy]

Nope. Nope. All aboard the nope train. There are no games that would be better off as MMOs. There are, however, plenty of MMOs that would be better off as regular games. Secret World, The Old Republic, Warhammer Online, etc. etc.

This, this, so much this. I was so disappointed when it turned out there wouldn't be a KotoR3, but instead a boring mmorpg. Same with Warhammer online. It's a very large universe with great lore, it would be so simple to make a great RPG out of it. Instead, lame mmorpg.
Gods.

 

[The_Lost_King]

Nope. Nope. All aboard the nope train. There are no games that would be better off as MMOs. There are, however, plenty of MMOs that would be better off as regular games. Secret World, The Old Republic, Warhammer Online, etc. etc.

Wow, I was ninja'd by the first post. Gosh darned super ninjas

But yeah, what he said. MMORPGs are a dead genre. Nothing will ever top WoW. The only MMO's that can work now are non-rpg ones and even then, you should just make a new ip for those.

 

[Atomic Spy Crab]

I personally think that Mass Effect should be an MMO because there would be more races to play as beyond: Do you want to be a human or a ghoul

 

[mattttherman3]

Honestly, I would get pissed if they made either into an MMO, look at what they did with KOTOR, that sucks. And I'm sure ESO will be standard WoW style, so no thanks. MMO's are just cash cows.

 

[Strazdas]

Did you just said its a company that everyone wants to see suceed in making MMOs? Really? Are you mad?

Nope. Nope. All aboard the nope train. There are no games that would be better off as MMOs. There are, however, plenty of MMOs that would be better off as regular games. Secret World, The Old Republic, Warhammer Online, etc. etc.

This. Again, this.
The only games that should be an MMO are the ones that are designed from ground up to be a MMO. All other games should not be a MMO.
The MMO mania will drop. The bubble has bursted, time to stop this "Everything must be MMO" thing. I mean heck even Elder
Scrolls got that problem now, when all we wanted was able to get a few friends into the world.

On the other hand though I'd like to play single player versions of EverQuest & World Of Warcraft whether on consoles or PC.... Well PC due to dirty mods.... Hello Female NPC Ratongas & Female NPC Worgens!....

You... can. Its kind of threading the legal boundary there but you could set up a private server and play alone in it. And you can modify it, thought i havent looked into how easy or hard it is to modify private servers for these games.

 

[Playful Pony]

I'd love to be able to play fallout with my friends, but not in the way of the MMO... I don't want random people doing the stupid and immersion-breaking shit that random people are prone to do, and I wouldn't want the gameplay of the recent fallout games compromised by the many changes that a game has to make in order to even BE an MMO. For a perfect example, see Elder Scrolls Online. No, I don't much care for that game... It's fine that people do, I don't really care, but that isn't for me. I'd just like Skyrim and/or Fallout as they are now, but with the added ability to party up with a friend or two when I want to.

 

[chozo_hybrid]

Nope. Nope. All aboard the nope train. There are no games that would be better off as MMOs. There are, however, plenty of MMOs that would be better off as regular games. Secret World, The Old Republic, Warhammer Online, etc. etc.

Couldn't have said it better. MMO's always seem to lack a certain polish to me, I play some Guild Wars 2 with friends, I get the appeal, but I never have all that much fun with the games themselves, it's the people I'm playing with that make it okay.

 

[EXos]

Nope. Nope. All aboard the nope train. There are no games that would be better off as MMOs. There are, however, plenty of MMOs that would be better off as regular games. Secret World, The Old Republic, Warhammer Online, etc. etc.

I'm on board.

I loved Knights of the old republic but instead of giving us a new one, fresh story, new worlds and more lightsabers, we got The Old republic and while not bad it's just not scratching that itch.

So I'd rather not see fallout go through the same. As for Mass Effect; EA already defiled Bioware so they can keep it.

As for what Dan said. Yes people want a new Fallout game. That doesn't mean it has to be an MMO!


Too many good singleplayer games now "have" to be changed into Multiplayer only...

 

[Qvar]

IMO it's not the subscription system that is dead. EVE online has been out there for 10 years and it has more playerbase than ever (which on the other hand, hasn't ever been millions of players).
Games tend to get boring and you stop playing. I stopped playing Dark Souls, Portal or Dead Space after the second playthrugh, yet I would recommend them any day.

It's the general concept of "Big world where you are told to be the most greatest hero, just like any of the other 100 guys that have come around here today. Now go fetch me 20 bear asses" that will eventually wither and die.

The MMOs thriving today are the ones that don't have this random, inconsequential quests to find in the world, and instead it either puts you on the reigns of change, or it's a mix between singleplayer adventures and multiplayer cooperation (GW2).

I'm down for D&D, start with one of the established worlds (say Faerun), then release xpacs with Krynn and all the rest, then the Spelljammer expansion hits and all the nerds die of fangasms.

You do know there are currently 2 D&d mmos D&D online which is based off the 3.5 rule set and is set in Eberron I believe and Neverwinter based (loosely) on the 4.0 rule set and taking place in never winter obviously.

And I hear that both suck (personally experienced the suckiness of the first one. Couldn't get past the first escort mission).

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While Pokemon MMOs is, for one, an idea I would love to see come true, I see it highly unlikely: It's nintendo. Have they ever made a PC game, much less a MMO?

 

[bobdole1979]

Nope. Nope. All aboard the nope train. There are no games that would be better off as MMOs. There are, however, plenty of MMOs that would be better off as regular games. Secret World, The Old Republic, Warhammer Online, etc. etc.

If Star Wars wasn't enough of an IP to bank an MMO on, it's pretty clear that IP alone isn't enough to make an MMO work, even if the game is fairly polished.

Until Blizzard finishes dethroning itself (about 5ish years, maybe, given their subscriber trajectory), the themepark model is just too crowded. After the first month or two, what mostly matters are gameplay, content, and community. WoW has more of the latter, and they've had hundreds of millions of dollars to sink into developing it. Your bootstrap team just isn't going to have the output of a dev studio funded by 7 million subscribers.

The one thing WoW can't really do much on is gameplay. Sure, they can and do riff off the odd feature here and there, but they can't deviate from their highly profitable niche without alienating their huge fanbase. If you really want to compete, you'd have to look at what Blizzard won't add into WoW, because there's little they don't have the money and talent to build. A great example being Eve and their merciless, persistent sandbox. Not something WoW could ever add, but has enough subscribers to build a business off of because it's offering something that World of Warcraft simply isn't going to.

umm SWTOR is the second largest western MMO right now it has over 1 million players (about 500k subs and 500k free players) and is actually making more money now then it was when it had 1.2 million subs.

wait did you just say WoW is a niche? Do you know what the word Niche means?

you are saying now EVE is the future? Sandbox really? You have to be kidding?

 

[bobdole1979]

This is what pops into my mind every time I hear of a " New " Mass Effect Game.


I was open to the idea of a Mass Effect M.M.O game BEFORE Mass Effect 3 was released. However the damage that E.A Games has done is something that I WON'T forgive or forget.

Though I would say that at least for the time being I'm still open to the idea of a Fallout M.M.O game. If only for the reason that Bethesda game studio hasn't yet ruined the Fallout series for me ( I say " yet " since I don't discount the possibility of them doing so ). I will however wait for CONFIRMED INFORMATION. I don't like the idea of going off of pure rumor since it can raise hopes without merit. Now when or if I get CONFIRMED INFORMATION of a Fallout game from Bethesda I'll be all like.


I'm even open to the idea of the Fallout game being a M.M.O so long as it ISN'T considered " cannon ".

However if the Fallout M.M.O were considered " cannon ", or if it was as bad as Mass Effect 3, or if the non-M.M.O game was as bad as Mass Effect 3 then this would be my reaction.


Though I seriously doubt that will be the case.

omg let the nerd rage go.

ME3 was great the only downer was the ending was a let down. The game itself was amazing.

 

[RoonMian]

Crimson Skies. Oh Crimson Skies oh so much.

 

[robinkom]

I find the MMO market just hard to look at anymore.

I'd rather see games with the size and scope of an MMO simply be 4-to-6 multiplayer local or online. I'll use Skyrim as an example. Just like that game, except you are able to host and save your progress and three other friends can connect to you online, giving you the entire open world to yourselves. Imagine if it were made in this way to allow group multiplayer online. One of you is the Dragonborn and three others are your travelling companions. You could all split up and go anywhere alone but difficulty rebalancing would dictate that it's crucial to stay together as a party. And, of course, even though it's about the Dragonborn, the narrative could be altered enough to make the other three players have crucial roles as well.

Another road less traveled is the inclusion of multiplayer in traditional RPGs by which I mean the more old-school stuff where you control a party of characters in turn-based menu-driven battle. That could be adjusted in such a away to allow 4 people (local and online) to each be one of the characters in the party and choose their actions in combat. So everyone would have to really talk it out as they go if there were things like combining spells or whoever has the higher initiative/agility to go before an injured member so they can heal them. Player 1 would control where the party goes outside of combat in the overworld/dungeons and everyone could have freedom of movement in towns/safe areas to go shopping for supplies and equipment at the same time.

It sounds kind of niche but these are the things that would intrigue me more than another monotonous MMO grind-fest with a popular franchise name tacked onto it.

 

[Darknacht]

You realize that there is already a Fallout MMO, here is the forum for one of the newest servers: http://forum.fonline2.com/

 

[legendp]

Nope. Nope. All aboard the nope train. There are no games that would be better off as MMOs. There are, however, plenty of MMOs that would be better off as regular games. Secret World, The Old Republic, Warhammer Online, etc. etc.

I don't entirely agree, but Most games that are mmo's I think would be better as singleplayer (the old rebblic would have been better as a solo focused game, imo). whatever they do I hope they do NOT do a mass effects mmo, mass effect is a heavily charachter and story focused game, even the best of mmo's can't do good story the way the mass effects games did. I don't understand people's obsession with mmo's and open world games. (I may be one of the few who would prefer large open levels in a game like mirrors edge 2 than an open world game)

 

[Wesley Brannock]

This is what pops into my mind every time I hear of a " New " Mass Effect Game.


I was open to the idea of a Mass Effect M.M.O game BEFORE Mass Effect 3 was released. However the damage that E.A Games has done is something that I WON'T forgive or forget.

Though I would say that at least for the time being I'm still open to the idea of a Fallout M.M.O game. If only for the reason that Bethesda game studio hasn't yet ruined the Fallout series for me ( I say " yet " since I don't discount the possibility of them doing so ). I will however wait for CONFIRMED INFORMATION. I don't like the idea of going off of pure rumor since it can raise hopes without merit. Now when or if I get CONFIRMED INFORMATION of a Fallout game from Bethesda I'll be all like.


I'm even open to the idea of the Fallout game being a M.M.O so long as it ISN'T considered " cannon ".

However if the Fallout M.M.O were considered " cannon ", or if it was as bad as Mass Effect 3, or if the non-M.M.O game was as bad as Mass Effect 3 then this would be my reaction.


Though I seriously doubt that will be the case.

omg let the nerd rage go.

ME3 was great the only downer was the ending was a let down. The game itself was amazing.

You are free to your opinion on the game. However the reason why I play R.P.G's is to play the side missions and to interact with characters / story ( to which both were sacrificed for D.L.C / fetch quests ). The greatest feature to Mass Effect 1-2 were the conversation wheel more importantly the third option they gave you to be neutral. This was also taken away and replaced with auto dialog BREAKING ALL the IMMERSION in the game. But that is only two of my complaints about the game to see the full list see these videos.



Now to address my " nerd rage " I will let it go when people just let Mass Effect go away. I don't want to hear about it or see it. This game was a let down and if you think my complaint is just about the ending you'll need to.

 

[Kelly Attwell]

If done right, Mass Effect could be a truly great MMO. As was said, there are multiple species, but what wasn't gone into was that each one carries with it different histories, belief and politics. They have also been put in a position where muh more of them have to interact with former enemies than they ever have before. It was said the story ended with Shepard, but that was only the end of Shepard's story. Now the galaxy is in chaos. The Citadel is in ruins. Who knows how many have died, but what about the species who lived in the Terminus Systems? I doubt all of them got involved in the fight against the reapers. What if pirating becomes a thing now that defences are down everywhere? That could be a renegade option, or theft or murder? Everything is basically in chaos now, so really, the possibilities are kind of endless. Some could be extremely violent and dark, but endless.