Notch Is Worried He Might Never Top Minecraft
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About that, how do you think David Braben and Ian Bell felt? Braben went onto help create the Raspberry Pi.Grey Carter said:
If one strives only for the summit one will never pass the first step, but if one works from the base one can achieve lofty heights.
Notch forgot his beginnings, the days at TIGsource where he presented a silly little experiment with random 3D world generating, where a player could simply move blocks about and create wierd architecture.
Notch was just playing about with ideas then... now he wants to make games.
In my opinion Notch should just play around with mechanics and ideas and then see if any of them can grow into a full game, its pointless trying to make a full game unless you are satisfied with just churning out rehashes of whats already out there ( CoD / BF / Gears / etc ).
I mean I have several ideas I need to get through, and I am only learning to code in C++ and SDL ( I at least had one game out there
)... imagine how many ideas Notch has from years of experience in programming.
( NO, my ideas are not the far fetched immpossible to code , FPS + WoW + Angry Birds mixture with realtime weather systems and universe simulation type ideas... ideas I can code with my current limited skills, just need to get time to get through them )
Notch forgot his beginnings, the days at TIGsource where he presented a silly little experiment with random 3D world generating, where a player could simply move blocks about and create wierd architecture.
Notch was just playing about with ideas then... now he wants to make games.
In my opinion Notch should just play around with mechanics and ideas and then see if any of them can grow into a full game, its pointless trying to make a full game unless you are satisfied with just churning out rehashes of whats already out there ( CoD / BF / Gears / etc ).
I mean I have several ideas I need to get through, and I am only learning to code in C++ and SDL ( I at least had one game out there
)... imagine how many ideas Notch has from years of experience in programming.( NO, my ideas are not the far fetched immpossible to code , FPS + WoW + Angry Birds mixture with realtime weather systems and universe simulation type ideas... ideas I can code with my current limited skills, just need to get time to get through them )
I think his best chance for success is to say "fuck everything", and to just do his thing. He most likely won't, but he definitely has something left in him. Just as long as he doesn't put "From the Creator of Minecraft" on the box.
You're lucky, I must be the only person in the Game Development and Design degree track who is a great programmer, but isn't creative enough to come up with any sort of original game idea. Guess I'll just have to hired on to work on other people's ideas. Weirdly enough, I'm alright with that.ASnogarD said:If one strives only for the summit one will never pass the first step, but if one works from the base one can achieve lofty heights.
Notch forgot his beginnings, the days at TIGsource where he presented a silly little experiment with random 3D world generating, where a player could simply move blocks about and create wierd architecture.
Notch was just playing about with ideas then... now he wants to make games.
In my opinion Notch should just play around with mechanics and ideas and then see if any of them can grow into a full game, its pointless trying to make a full game unless you are satisfied with just churning out rehashes of whats already out there ( CoD / BF / Gears / etc ).
I mean I have several ideas I need to get through, and I am only learning to code in C++ and SDL ( I at least had one game out there
( NO, my ideas are not the far fetched immpossible to code , FPS + WoW + Angry Birds mixture with realtime weather systems and universe simulation type ideas... ideas I can code with my current limited skills, just need to get time to get through them )
Rapidly churning out ideas to see if you could make a game out of it is called rapid prototyping fyi.ASnogarD said:
From the pics of his TF2 demakes, MC2d etc. Thats exactly what he's trying to do, while the rest of mojang actually polishes the ideas and expands on them. It's a viable business model for a small indipendant company, and the initial success of minecraft allows them to continue to "screw up" on prototypes that don't work.
As long as they publish games that sell for a decent amount, they will survive as a small studio. Even if they can't top minecraft, we can expect good stuff from them.
Maybe, just maybe, he could do what most writers do.
After writing your one good book, expand it into a trilogy. I.e. actually expand upon minecraft and make it into the game we all know it could be.
After writing your one good book, expand it into a trilogy. I.e. actually expand upon minecraft and make it into the game we all know it could be.
Really? The "game" that everyone ate up as the second coming of Christ? He might not be able to top that?
Some people have one extraordinary book in them, and many good ones. He probably can't beat Minecraft but there may still be a lot of good books left.
The trick may be not to try to beat Minecraft.
His wish that the big hit happened later, seems very common among authors that hit big on their first attempt. I can imagine it's a scary situation.
The trick may be not to try to beat Minecraft.
His wish that the big hit happened later, seems very common among authors that hit big on their first attempt. I can imagine it's a scary situation.
I for one think Catacomb Snatch is awesome. Had they spent another 60 hours on that game, it'd be sure-fire hit.
The community-helmed continuation has turned out very well, but not quite in the same vein as I think the original design (or lack thereof) had intended.
The community-helmed continuation has turned out very well, but not quite in the same vein as I think the original design (or lack thereof) had intended.
I think the bigger issue will be people constantly expecting something on par with or better than Minecraft out of every game he ever makes. Which just won't happen. So people will say his games are getting worse, but really they are still great just not as good as Minecraft.
Well he didin't really make minecraft in the first place, the bulk of the source code was stolen from another game. I think his direction on minecraft actually did more harm than good, trying to turn it into an rpg instead of focusing on what people really like to do with it, build. How about some different colored red stone wires? How about more materials to play with, new blocks? No? Just some squidword like beings? OK, thanks notch.
I do believe a great man once said;
[i/]If there is one thing that history has taught us, besides not to piss off people named Genghis or put lead in your water pipes, that if you're going to make something incredibly good that becomes frighteningly popular, make sure it's the last thing you make in your entire life.[/i]
And he's right. Sorry Notch, but it's over for you.
Not that I feel particularly sorry for the rich, influential, nerd-god...
[i/]If there is one thing that history has taught us, besides not to piss off people named Genghis or put lead in your water pipes, that if you're going to make something incredibly good that becomes frighteningly popular, make sure it's the last thing you make in your entire life.[/i]
And he's right. Sorry Notch, but it's over for you.
Not that I feel particularly sorry for the rich, influential, nerd-god...