Notch says 'If you can't afford Minecraft, just pirate it'.
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Hear hear!Twilight_guy said:
I don't endorse piracy whatsoever. So Notch has said that he doesn't mind people getting his game free of charge. That's fine, its his own work. But this encourages people to pirate other games. Games that have developers that need to make a bit of money from it. Y'know, so they can feed their families/pay bills/keep roof over their heads.
Disclaimer: This does not mean that I support the ridiculous lengths that many developers have gone to to try and stop piracy (e.g. over-agressive DRM), many of which actually encourage piracy.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.336886-Lawyer-Destroys-Arguments-for-Game-Piracy
P.S. My captcha had a punctuation mark in it! WHAT IS THIS BLACK MAGIC?
No that I dont agree with the rest of your post, but selling on steam is not piracy.Lilani said:
OT: eh, if notch wants to. I just really hope notch doesnt come out next week and say he's for SOPA or against piracy cause he's losing too much sales.
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Not that i think he would, justs aying.
I just gotta say...if you are looking at this thread on a computer that you own, and are not in dire, dire, dire financial straits, you can easily afford minecraft.
The people this applies to are likely from third world countries, or very, very poor people from developed countries.
He's not saying 'Pirate it, I don't care!' Because most people can afford to pay 15 pounds (or whatever it is) for a game.
So if you did pirate it and don't feel guilty...you should (especially since it's an indie game, and needs all the help it can get. Although minecraft is pretty big, so big it's basically mainstream so...I don't know.)
The people this applies to are likely from third world countries, or very, very poor people from developed countries.
He's not saying 'Pirate it, I don't care!' Because most people can afford to pay 15 pounds (or whatever it is) for a game.
So if you did pirate it and don't feel guilty...you should (especially since it's an indie game, and needs all the help it can get. Although minecraft is pretty big, so big it's basically mainstream so...I don't know.)
Its kinda irresponsible and arrogant for notch to say this as you can bet endorsing it will affect other indie devs too. He is saying this because he is a moron and because hes already made millions and likes the love of idiots who seem to think piracy is anything but theft.
I think he should re-word it.
"pirate" implies without permission.
Here, he is giving permission.
Also, I havn't played minecraft since the update before the one before the enderman one.
What's changed?
"pirate" implies without permission.
Here, he is giving permission.
Also, I havn't played minecraft since the update before the one before the enderman one.
What's changed?
You don't seem to understand what I was saying. Here [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/114391-Valves-Gabe-Newell-Says-Piracy-Is-a-Service-Problem] is the article if you want to read it for yourself. There are the exact words Gabe Newell used:emeraldrafael said:
Piracy is a problem in Russia, and developers like to avoid that region because what they put out there gets pirated. You still can pirate something purchased digitally--hell it's probably easier since it's already there on the computer. They were telling him to not do Steam in Russia because it'd result in more piracy than monetary gain. But they didn't lose money, because with Steam it's so much easier to buy it legitimately than it is to pirate it. A good portion of piracy is not a money problem. As Valve and Steam has proven, a lot of it is simply a service problem--an issue of availability and user friendliness.
Now you've lost me. What context? Do you think that's hypothetical or something? It happened. Steam offered games in a way that made them as easy, if not easier, to get than by piracy.emeraldrafael said:
...Wait a minute. I don't think we're on the same page. Your original post...
When did I ever say selling on steam is piracy? What were you talking about, there? The reason I put that thing about Steam in the first place was to demonstrate that stricter DRM that makes it harder on players only encourages piracy, and that if publishers just let go of their stranglehold on their games piracy won't be as big of an issue. I was saying that Steam is a great way to combat piracy, because it takes all the hassle out of buying games and offers sales much more frequently.emeraldrafael said:
Wait...Twilight_guy said:
...so if a guy who created an infinitely replicable luxury item and already earned a killing off it to the tune of several million sales times ten-to-thirty bucks apiece, and then amicably decides to say "money isn't the issue anymore, but please support us if you enjoy our product"...
...you curse him and deny him the right to do this thing?
What you must think of the Creative Commons! Why, those fools freely donate their time and effort to create useful and artistic works without even bothering to hold onto the rights! How dare they do such a thing! Don't they know that's not how the world works?
It's mindsets like yours that... yargh.
I support f r e e d o m . That includes the freedom to do whatever the hell you like with your own product. Including hosting a free version yourself (as some publishers do with their older material), or telling people to run off and find a free copy elsewhere (presuming a computer program or document, since data that can be freely copied is a world away from a physical object that can be stolen... and the creator should be free to give permission for this, taking it out of the realm of illegal piracy). It's your creation - why should anyone else be able to tell you what you can and can't do with it?
Some of my friends, and me, used to log into an account belonging to someone we know to play MC because we couldn't afford it.
Now we have all bought it.
out of the 5 people who did this all of us bought it, + 2 people who didn't use the account we all used.
I actually felt guilty for kindof pirating it, but I bought it when I got the money.
Now we have all bought it.
out of the 5 people who did this all of us bought it, + 2 people who didn't use the account we all used.
I actually felt guilty for kindof pirating it, but I bought it when I got the money.
Heh.. funny... If you can't afford Minecraft, then there are -alot- more things you should spend money on =/
Though it's a odd standing on the issue. But then again, alot of people already bought it, maybe it's less needed to be bought or something?
Besides people will pirate it anyway, heck I think it got pirated already when it was in Alpha =/
No use resisting I guess.. Or he is confident in his product and services he provides?
Though it's a odd standing on the issue. But then again, alot of people already bought it, maybe it's less needed to be bought or something?
Besides people will pirate it anyway, heck I think it got pirated already when it was in Alpha =/
No use resisting I guess.. Or he is confident in his product and services he provides?
Im tired, lets just say your right and i missed something. Im lost already, but I think I either missed something or phrased itwrong.Lilani said:
You know what, I will. I paid for Minecraft TWICE(!) because my account randomly becomes "invalid", it won't let me play, and none of the support staff has replied to my complaints. I will consider pirating it. Only because I don't want to pay another $20 or whatever the price is now.