Notch Tweets Rage Over Minecraft Party Sexual Assault

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blalien said:
I am getting more and more fed up with the Escapist community with every post about sexual assault getting more jokes than anger in response. I sincerely hope the guy responsible gets caught and punished to the full extent of the law, and the security company issues a public apology immediately.
Same here and it's not just talk of sexual assault either. The Feminist Frequency thing as well as some subtle xenophobia has been really giving the Escapist a bad name for awhile now. And of course if you call them out on their bs they reply with the usual cowardly response of "don't be so serious, man". It's pathetic.

Anyway, this was uncalled for and I do appreciate Notch speaking up. I hope the security guard who blew off the woman is found and punished or at the very least the security company is forced to apologize for their employee willingly being incompetent
 

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Mimsofthedawg said:
To be honest, a part of this sounds fishy to me. Almost like the girl is fabricating the whole thing. BUT I ONLY SAY THAT BECAUSE... well... Who just walks away after a creepy dude puts his dick on you? NO NO, who let's themselves be in that situation?
Understanding what this is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acute_stress_reaction#Symptoms_of_acute_stress_reaction] and that people cannot always control how they act in stressful situations will make you a better person. Not responding to harassment like a rational, calm person would does not cast her allegations in any doubt - if anything, mental shock is common enough that her experiencing it makes her story that much more believable.

As far as "letting themselves be in that situation," she did not go to a gathering called 'Rapists and Other Creepy Dudes Get Their Dicks Out.'
 

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blalien said:
I am getting more and more fed up with the Escapist community with every post about sexual assault getting more jokes than anger in response. I sincerely hope the guy responsible gets caught and punished to the full extent of the law, and the security company issues a public apology immediately.
It's not just the escapist community and I think it's more of a fact that were making fun of the guy because he's crazy, I feel bad for the girl but the perpetrator needs to be mocked and ridiculed to the point where he's too ashamed to sick he's head out the window.

This isn't the worst thing I've heard in the news, in fact it's not even the worst thing I've heard this week in the news. Listen to any satire morning radio station and they find stories like this in the news a few times week. Sometimes all you can do is laugh.
 

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Good on Notch, and I hope the whole situation is dealt with. Now, before this devolves into a possible shitstorm...

 

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Azuaron said:
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"Then he grabbed my free wrist and put it on his crotch and asked 'Is this big enough?'"
Holy shit, my sides.
Seriously? Your response to sexual assault is "that's hilarious"?

I think I'm going to instead believe that you just got back from boxing, and quoted that by accident.
Seriously? Is this one of those topics where nothing is funny ever? I resent your inflated sense of morality and I resent your attempt to force everyone else to be just as much a tightwad as you.

Azuaron finds it hilarious that some dickwad thought it would be a good idea to force a girl to grab his small cock through his pants. Strictly speaking, it's very sad that such dumbasses actually populate this earth. In fact, Earth is a very sad place to live for that reason. Some people address this sadness by finding things to laugh at. Then there are people like you, who choose to deal with it by being... what? Tighwads. Please understand that laughing at stupidity is a completely appropriate response.

Decent article, otherwise. I wonder what sway notch will have in metering out discipline on that lazy security guard.
 

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Now that, there, was a creeper. Lone wolf sort of fella, sure, but no matter if all he had in his inventory was a bone, only a zombie would think a move like that was dynamite. Notch was absolutely right to explode at him. And should he be caught, well, that'll be the enderman.
 

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I think the only appropriate recourse for the guy would be to lock him in a room with a dozen Minecraft creepers.

OT: Kuddos to her for managing to speak out about this, hopefully he's caught and gets to pay for his crime. And given that Notch is pretty much a nice guy, I'd pretty much expect this response and I hope this sort of shit storm becomes commonplace, regardless of the gender of all involved.
 

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Rocklobster99 said:
Andy Chalk said:
"Then he grabbed my free wrist and put it on his crotch and asked 'Is this big enough?'"
Holy shit, my sides.

Sexual assault is not funny, not in the slightest. If you find it as such, you either have a very very dark sense or you're a mysoginist (if you only view it as funny if the woman is the recipient).
 

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chadachada123 said:
Azuaron said:
Rocklobster99 said:
Andy Chalk said:
"Then he grabbed my free wrist and put it on his crotch and asked 'Is this big enough?'"
Holy shit, my sides.
Seriously? Your response to sexual assault is "that's hilarious"?

I think I'm going to instead believe that you just got back from boxing, and quoted that by accident.
You're responding to the guy with a stereotypical blackface profile picture. Do you really think he's taking the story seriously?

As for me, that part of the story is pretty damn funny, though the conclusion is, unfortunately, not so funny.

I do feel as though there's a bit of a double-standard, here, though. If a drunk woman grabbed a guy's hand and shoved it into her crotch or boobs, he'd get the same response from the security guard but would almost certainly not get a news story or support from Notch himself, even if he was just as hurt.
I knew it was too much to hope that no one pulled the Double Standard card.

OT: Notch is generally a nice dude so I'm not surprised he's this mad. I would to, mainly because he doesn't want to be known as someone who ignores Sexual Assault incidents at his parties. Incidents like that generally make the Party Throwers really pissed because it happened under their watch.

Rainboq said:
Rocklobster99 said:
Andy Chalk said:
"Then he grabbed my free wrist and put it on his crotch and asked 'Is this big enough?'"
Holy shit, my sides.

Sexual assault is not funny, not in the slightest. If you find it as such, you either have a very very dark sense or you're a mysoginist (if you only view it as funny if the woman is the recipient).
He didn't think Sexual Assault was funny man. He did however find that one specific line really funny. That little line actually is really, really funny. Though the fact that it actually happened is not really funny.
 

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ServebotFrank said:
Rainboq said:
Rocklobster99 said:
Andy Chalk said:
"Then he grabbed my free wrist and put it on his crotch and asked 'Is this big enough?'"
Holy shit, my sides.

Sexual assault is not funny, not in the slightest. If you find it as such, you either have a very very dark sense or you're a mysoginist (if you only view it as funny if the woman is the recipient).
He didn't think Sexual Assault was funny man. He did however find that one specific line really funny. That little line actually is really, really funny. Though the fact that it actually happened is not really funny.
Out of context, maybe, but in context, I find it horrifying. Then again, I just dislike the male anatomy period. As well, it raises some deeply troubling social implications about our perception of genders; their roles and what influence primary sexual characteristics play in our definition of how much of a man or woman one is.

On a side note, yes, I do read deeply into things.
 

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I for one think she would've been perfectly justified in following a three-step plan:

- Grab
- Twist
- Pull

Would've been easy to find him later. Just follow the high-pitched screaming and sobbing.

Also, Notch, ol' buddy, ol' pal? If you find the guy, I for one would be happy to help ensure that he finds himself alone with you and an iron shovel.
 

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Sexual assault is not something that's easy to make a scene about, even though most people would ask you "WHY NOT?"

I speak out of personal experience here. When I was 15 I went off as an exchange student in Japan and I had to take the crowded morning train every day. On one particular trip, I was wearing a skirt and some creeper was touching the inside of my thigh, fairly high up and entirely on purpose. I immediately left the train to wait for the next one but this same person got off at the same stop and sat on the opposite side of the bench I was sitting on. I pretty much ran away until eventually he stopped following, but I had to take the slow local train instead of the express. All the while, I had my apprehensions about making a huge scene because I didn't speak the language fluently and also have anxiety issues in crowds. To this day, that guy got away with feeling up my leg and I never had the courage to speak up about it until it was done and over. It was not cool and I was incredibly unhappy about it but when it's happening, you just don't think about drawing attention to yourself because you don't want people to look at you, being humiliated.

In regards to the one quoted line, it wasn't funny to the girl at the time, but... honestly, you would hear that something out of a bad porno and even I laughed. Just, in the context of the situation, that's horrifying to be in that girl's position.
 

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"People tell me I should've called the cops or screamed or made a huge scene, but I didn't want that type of attention and the reaction of the security guard made me feel like cops would be even more of a waste," she wrote.
Especially Seattle police, they probably would've identified her as a threat and shot her after severely beating the crap out of her.

Seriously though, it sounds like maybe they should hire better security for next time, "What do you expect me to do?" is not a valid response to "Some guy just made me touch his dick!"
 

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Wow, im surprised she didn't turn this into a big deal while the party was going on. I mean, she had every right to, but it's just...refreshing, seeing someone with every right to make it a big "poor me" story and actually having some respect for the people around and that they might not want to get mixed up in that. So yah, I respect her for that, kudos. Also, it's much easier for me to sympathize with someone not grubbing for attention. Now what i don't respect is the unimaginable stupidity of the guard she tried to talk to about it. Really, he just shrugged a form of sexual assault off? "What do you expect me to do" is not a valid response. Ask her what he looked like, discretely look around for that person, and evict them from the party. Even if finding them is a long shot he could at least try to help another human being.
 

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First off, a creeper is not just a minecraft thing. Kinda like a stalker online. "This guy on Facebook messaged me, but then he turned into a creeper."

Also, some of what she says happened may be exaggerated by time/alcohol/expectations. If the message (That she was forced to touch him) is indeed correct, then the guy is a sicko who needs to be registered a sex offender, at best. Though what I think should happen to sexual offenders is less... Polite. Male or female, that is uncalled for.

Also, to those criticizing guys for not "getting it" and questioning, I would like to point out that guys are mentally conditioned to be hardened against these things. They can later have serious mental issues from it, but that's the norm.

To those regretting the double standard card... It's a sad fact of our culture. Has happened to me in fact. Got sexually harassed at my current job, and when I told three managers, including a H.R. manager (HR was female, others were male), two laughed it off, and the H.R. sighed, shuck her head and walked away. On the same token, had a male employee at a different job eating lunch, and get asked what another male employee called the woman that was also in the room, he told her, and was fired. For telling her what the other person said. It is something we would like to ignore, and believe against, but it's true.

I am surprised a bit to see nothing about this on PA's site... Usually they're in front of this stuff, aren't they? Though I don't even know if they would've had anything to do with it, as I'm a NYer, and not attending a PAX Prime. So please correct my assumption, if I'm off base.

My main point is this. Find him, determine his guilt fairly, and if guilty... Punish, and destroy.
 

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Stryc9 said:
"People tell me I should've called the cops or screamed or made a huge scene, but I didn't want that type of attention and the reaction of the security guard made me feel like cops would be even more of a waste," she wrote.
Especially Seattle police, they probably would've identified her as a threat and shot her after severely beating the crap out of her.

Seriously though, it sounds like maybe they should hire better security for next time, "What do you expect me to do?" is not a valid response to "Some guy just made me touch his dick!"
The problem is not that the guard was unwilling to act upon the event; rather, he's not able to arrest someone based on the accusations of another in the case of a misdemeanor, since he wasn't witness to the event. Also, the fact that she left and later made the accusation (I use that word in the legal sense; I am in no way suggesting it didn't happen) makes it difficult to prove anything happened.

At worse, the guard could have thrown out the attendee, but that's about it. And even that may be beyond his contractual responsibilities. Plus you have to take into consideration the ramifications of taking physical action. If the guard grabs the little asian pervert, he opens himself to a lawsuit, which may cause him to lose his job.

Yes, perhaps the guard could have done something besides stand there, but that really wasn't his call to make. While it is unfortunate that the woman was assaulted, we can't go back in time to change how guards are supposed to act in the convention. We can only change how they act in the future.

And while it in no way makes up for what happened to her, the victim I am sure will receive some sort of compensation from PA to soothe the situation.
 

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ServebotFrank said:
chadachada123 said:
Azuaron said:
Rocklobster99 said:
Andy Chalk said:
"Then he grabbed my free wrist and put it on his crotch and asked 'Is this big enough?'"
Holy shit, my sides.
Seriously? Your response to sexual assault is "that's hilarious"?

I think I'm going to instead believe that you just got back from boxing, and quoted that by accident.
You're responding to the guy with a stereotypical blackface profile picture. Do you really think he's taking the story seriously?

As for me, that part of the story is pretty damn funny, though the conclusion is, unfortunately, not so funny.

I do feel as though there's a bit of a double-standard, here, though. If a drunk woman grabbed a guy's hand and shoved it into her crotch or boobs, he'd get the same response from the security guard but would almost certainly not get a news story or support from Notch himself, even if he was just as hurt.
I knew it was too much to hope that no one pulled the Double Standard card.

OT: Notch is generally a nice dude so I'm not surprised he's this mad. I would to, mainly because he doesn't want to be known as someone who ignores Sexual Assault incidents at his parties. Incidents like that generally make the Party Throwers really pissed because it happened under their watch.
Hey, I'm only raising awareness of this as an issue, because I'd prefer to, you know, get rid of this double-standard.

Unless you're trying to say that there isn't one?

I'm not pulling any "card," and I'm in no way belittling what happened to her. I'm here in defense of men that have been through stuff like this but have been laughed out of the room by everyone around them, including the party host, in addition to women that get treated similarly.

Edit: Oh, forgot to add that that was just an aside and only tangentially related to the thread. There was little I could say directly about the topic, since everyone already covered the fact that it sucks for her and that the guard may have acted unfairly. Pretty much every base is covered, so I moved on to related issues.
 

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Even if she was drunk, and even if she (wittingly or unwittingly) gave an impression she was interested in him, I don't think you need me telling you 'don't take your dick out in public and make other touch it'.

Mimsofthedawg said:
To be honest, a part of this sounds fishy to me. Almost like the girl is fabricating the whole thing. BUT I ONLY SAY THAT BECAUSE... well... Who just walks away after a creepy dude puts his dick on you? NO NO, who let's themselves be in that situation?

I'm sure that there's a bunch of people who could jump all over me for what I just said. But honestly? It's really a whole lot less about what I just said, and a whole lot more of "WHY?!" This whole thing's just bizarre.
Talking as a someone who has been assoulted (non-sexually), my mind just went into panic mode and all I wanted was to get away from there. I went to the police later, and luckily there had been witnesses and the guys were caught. (And I wasn't the only one they attacked).

chadachada123 said:
I do feel as though there's a bit of a double-standard, here, though. If a drunk woman grabbed a guy's hand and shoved it into her crotch or boobs, he'd get the same response from the security guard but would almost certainly not get a news story or support from Notch himself, even if he was just as hurt.
Maybe, but that doesn't make this any more okay.

Link Kadeshi said:
To those regretting the double standard card... It's a sad fact of our culture. Has happened to me in fact. Got sexually harassed at my current job, and when I told three managers, including a H.R. manager (HR was female, others were male), two laughed it off, and the H.R. sighed, shuck her head and walked away. On the same token, had a male employee at a different job eating lunch, and get asked what another male employee called the woman that was also in the room, he told her, and was fired. For telling her what the other person said. It is something we would like to ignore, and believe against, but it's true.
Yes, and it goes beyond just sex. If she was overweight and ugly, there would be more people thinking it was funny, with comments like 'she should be happy someone is interested in her. lol'. and 'She must be saying it for the attention, why would someone go for her?'.

(especially if the harasser is attractive)
(or if the person being harassed is generally someone who has a lot of sex)

There are a lot of double-standards, unfortunately.